The Race For the US Presidency 2012 - 2

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The Race For the US Presidency 2012 - 2
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"The criminally insane government in Washington, regardless whether Democrat or Republican, regardless of the outcome of the next election, is the greatest threat to life on earth that has ever existed..."

It Came From Washington  - by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/06/29/it-came-from-washington/

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Jews For Romney  -  by Lawrence Solomon

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/07/06/lawrence-solomon-jews-for-ro...

"Democrats beware: Jewish money is on the move..."

josh

A classic smoke, but no fire, article.

Michelle

Holy fuck.  Anti-semitic much, Financial Post?  What the hell kind of subheadline is that?

Well, I guess non-Jewish Democrat true-believers will know who to scapegoat now if Obama loses this election.  The reason won't be because Obama pretty much betrayed every progressive principle every progressive person either expected or wanted him to defend during his first term.  It won't be because he royally fucked up on bringing in universal health care, and instead delivered a nicely-wrapped present to private insurance companies.  No, if Obama loses, it'll supposedly be because of "Jewish money on the move", the subheadline to the FP article.

Unbelievable.

A quarter of Obama's amazing fundraising last time around came from millions of grassroots supporters around the country giving less than $200 each to his campaign through his website.  And now we're supposed to believe that 67% of his fundraising (one estimate given in the article) came from rich Jewish donors?

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Rachel Maddow on Ron Paul and GOP Convention July 9th, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpCF3zSEzic&feature=g-all-u

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Republican Democrats: The Real Barack Obama  -  by Louis Proyect

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/republican-democrats/

"...Obama is laying the groundwork for abandoning the New Deal-type safety net in the name of 'reform', even if his most ardent and self-deceiving supporters continue to hold out hope that he will live up to his promises.."

 

Controversial Romney Fundraisers in London and Jerusalem

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31907

"Next week, presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, will hold controversial fundraisers in London and Jerusalem as part of his international itinerary. Romney insiders are saying privately that the primary purpose for Romney's international jaunt is his determination to raise more funds than President Obama.."

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Republican Democrats: The Real Barack Obama  -  by Louis Proyect

 

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/republican-democrats/

"...Obama is laying the groundwork for abandoning the New Deal-type safety net in the name of 'reform', 

How is he doing that? The article offers absolutely nothing to substantiate the assertion. I'm all for a critical assessment of Obama's presidency, but throwing around the broadest of statements like that without the requisite underlying evidence and analysis just makes you sound silly. (I'm talking about the author of the piece, not you, NDPP.)

 

Unionist

NDPP wrote:

Jews For Romney  -  by Lawrence Solomon

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/07/06/lawrence-solomon-jews-for-ro...

"Democrats beware: Jewish money is on the move..."

This Lawrence Solomon, who has discovered that rich Jews run the world, is the same one that writes articles calling for the invasion of Somalia and condemning "global-warning alarmism".

I think, NDPP, that if you want to cite more or less factual news sources about Jews moving their money around, go ahead and do so, but not shitbags like this guy.

Anyway, I'm shifting $20 in cash from my shirt drawer to the plates cupboard. Hope that doesn't unduly influence the Bank of Canada's upcoming interest rate announcement.

 

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I'm wondering if NDPP even reads some of the stuff he posts here.

 

NDPP

Yes he does.

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Carnival Deception: While Mitt and Barry Posture, the Imperial Beast Plods On  -  by Chris Floyd

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/2265-...

"...Those who pray and pump and polemicize for the re-election of the behemoth's current commander have to repeatedly gouge out their own eyes to avoid seeing the rank corruption and carnage their champion empowers and inflicts on the vulnerable and defenseless..."

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CNN had a segment on today about how Romney wants to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital, and is open to moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Romney's a Mormon, but it's sounding more like he's a pawn of the Religious Right.

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Obama and Romney Should Stop Competing for Zionist Support

http://gulfnews.com/opinions/editorials/obama-and-romney-should-stop-com...

"...But as the American campaign for the presidency gets into top gear, both Obama and Romney will go out of their way to tell their Jewish voters repeatedly that they respect Israel. It is part of the Zionist lobby's success that they have managed to link Judaism in the US to Zionism and unflinching support for Israel, regardless of its government's policies.."

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3 Big Romney Donors Enthralled with Israeli Militarism and Occupation

http://www.alternet.org/world/3-big-romney-donors-enthralled-israeli-mil...

Mitt Romney is taking his show on the road. The next stop will be Israel..."

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Carville's Push to Tighten Sanctions on Iran  -  by Franklin Lamb

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/03/carvilles-push-to-tighten-sanctio...

"...Team Obama scored an electoral coup against rival Mitt Romney this week by moving fast to pull the rug from Romney's hoped for advantage from his obsequious Israel trip. That visit, which ranks among the all time most groveling, led to even Zionist media outlets including the New York Times and Washington Post dissing Mitt's trip as 'unpresidential'..."

Fidel

What the Yanks need now is an anti-war party which also refuses to support Al Qa'eda terrorism with U.S. taxpayers footing the bills. 

Just say no to terrorism.

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One of the best places for tracking polling data leading up the November presidential election.

Electoral-Vote.com

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Romney's Veep Choice: Paul Ryan, Koch Ally and 'Right-Wing Social Engineer'

In making the risky choice of picking Rep. Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney seals the deal on the Koch brothers' takeover of the Republican Party.

Fidel

They've employed similar strategy in Afghanistan with Afghans reduced to choosing between mujahideen criminals and warlords in government and their right wing religious fundamentalist cousins, the Taliban.

I think more Americans are beginning to realize that the one-two party system run by Wall Street and the superrich is no more democratic than one-party rule in the former USSR. It's just two right wings of the same party "running" for cosmetic government while the Military dictatorship is constant in the shadows.

howeird beale

Yes, yes, baa baa, woof, woof. We should scrap elections and worship a president-for-life. It's not the choices in an election like this we should hold in contempt, it's democracy itself. Everything should be decided for us by a panel of our social betters. We are only deluding ourselves by participating in social movements, elections, government, anything.

No one buys that authoritarian socialist nonsense anymore. it's about as big a hit nowadays as scientology. And as about as helpful in terms of its social prescriptions.

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Putting Ryan on the ticket brings the Tea Party into the mainstream. It also energizes the conservative base for the House and Senate races. A lot a can happen between now and November.

howeird beale

 

Thanks very much, Boom Boom. Obama might be disappointing, constrained by a system constructed by the founding fathers to hobble any movement for change, too timid, whatever... But to say there's no difference between him and someone like the Randian Ryan is naive.

Ryan also has been presented all day as just a typical middle class mid-west kid. A little quick research reveals this is baloney:

Today, Ryan Inc. Central is one of the largest earthmoving firms in the country, building everything from home sites to golf courses to landfills to wetlands.

http://paulryan.house.gov/news/documentprint.aspx?DocumentID=272465

 

This happens a lot of course. Margaret Wente in the Globe removed a bunch of equestrian class, old-money details from her online bio. Being born into inherited affluence made her finger wagging at the masses look rather distasteful, not to mention ungrateful, I suppose.

Erin Burnett has a laughable ad on CNN where she descibes herself as 'growing up in a small town.' She of course omits that she was the daughter of a corporate attorney, went to an elite private boarding school, worked for Goldman "Thieves R Us" Sacks or is married to a bigshot at Citigroup.

Just a small-town gal. Aw shucks.

Perhaps her connections to companies who Obama had to bail out, whose messes he has to clean up, would taint her nightly admonition to Obama regarding the US credit rasting.

Ryan, on the same note, grew up fabulously rich. His family made their millions from highway contruction. In other words, from the benefit of government infrastructure spending. Not only has he fed at the public trough his entire professional career, so too have his family, for generations.

But he wants to blow up the government.

Talk about ungrateful.

Fidel

howeird beale wrote:
No one buys that authoritarian socialist nonsense anymore.

And millions have lost faith in American and Canaidan democracy. The Americans have lower voter turnouts than we do, and Canada ranks 109th out of 179 countries. The U.S. and even Canada rank poorly in a number of social and economic measures. The right is able to do it with money and buying elections. How else could just 24% of eligible voters give 110% of political power to our corrupt stooges in Ottawa? The Washington lobby system of government is even more corrupt in the USA - not even the USSR was drowning in this much national debt by 1989. What we are seeing today is the decline of the last vicious empire. No nation can survive corruption from within.

howeird beale

Yeah. I didn't realize our democracy was fucked up. I thought we lived in a utopian paradise. You constantly present me with revelatory insights that never crossed my mind.

'Last empire.' indeed. Quite right. China is not the new hegemon. They have no imperial ambitions. The polestar that guides them is love.

You're smart. Yes you are. Your hectoring and repetitive posts are fascinating.

Fidel

Well if China is what US newz rags would have you believe it is, then why is it that China is surrounded militarily and not the USA where China bashing is in vogue and esp. since the collapse of laissez-faire capitalism part three since 2008? 

Yes I agree that something is fucked-up. Perhaps you should take another look. It will take some sifting through the self-serving empire feel good rhetoric, but truth will find you if you let it.

howeird beale

Your recitation of the catechism does not become more compelling from its repetition.

Its not going to attract an increasing number of acolytes.

Its predictions of impending Gotterdamerung and subsequent jubilee is no more interesting that the exact same story structure I was fed in church.

Jesus isn't coming.

Its reconstitution of Carlyle's Great Man theory is no less tuckered-out despite the fig leaf of social justice it wears.

Fidel

I've gleaned your comments in this thread, and you've managed to say exactly nothing interesting.

The truth is that all two of the presidential candidates for the exact same political party of big business and the military are so totally owned before the election is run makes mock of the entire thread subject. Everyone and their dog knows who will win well beforehand. 

howeird beale

Great. Agreed. I'm boring back. Good one! Then its settled.

Now why not let people get back to discussing specific points about this race rather than fatiguing everyone with your threadbare all-purpose nostrums?

Fidel

What about Obama's dog? What's he like?

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Fidel wrote:

What about Obama's dog? What's he like?


He'd make a better running mate than Biden, I think.

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Fidel wrote:

What about Obama's dog? What's he like?


He'd make a better running mate than Biden, I think.

DaveW

anyway, Romney's choice of a real fiscal ideologue in Paul Ryan sharpens the edges of the campaign, with Obama campaign pros thrilled, but Repubs also delighted; a hard thing to achieve:

 http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/picking-ryan-why-romney-changed-to-obamas-game.html

 

 

josh

Not a suprise that Romney would chose Ryan. If you give a Republican nominee a choice of five names, at least nine times out of ten he will pick the most evil fucker in the bunch.

And Ryan, an Ayn Rand devotee, is evil. His budget would end Medicare as we know it, slash social spending, all the while cutting taxes for the top 1%. Like the man who selected him.

NorthReport

Romney's campaign was in the toilet, and his attacks on Obama over the economy were going nowhere.

We'll now see how stupid American voters can be.

If they choose the one percenter to represent them, God help all of us. Except the one per cent that is, as they won't need God's help. 

DaveW

who's running the show?

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/12/mitt%E2%80%99s_freudian_flub/

 

Q. doesn't Romney remind you of Ignatieff sometimes, with his willingness to do/say anything to achieve his pre-ordained leadership role?

NorthReport

Wall Street got the VP candidate they wanted, but it is interesting that so many right-wingers are upset with Romney's choice of Paul Ryan. 

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/memories-of-hewson-v-keating-as-romney-picks-policy-maverick-for-vp-20120812-242ur.html

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The Election of a Puppet President    -   by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=32330

"Whether you vote Republican or Democrat the oligarchs will win.."

 

Voting: The Slave's Suggestion Box

http://12160.info/photo/photo/show?id=2649739:Photo:947238

"choosing masters every few years doesn't make you free.."

 

Foreign Cash Disqualifies Romney from Presidential Bid: Romney Raised Millions in Foreign Cash at Fundraisers Across Israel and London...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/12/foreign-cash-disqualifies-romney...

"...No other American presidential candidate has ever left the US to garner campaign contributions from foreign citizens. There is a creason for this, one that Romney and his staff seem oblivious to and the mainstream media had ignored until just recently. Using foreign contributions in any American election is a felony..."

NorthReport

Oh my, this doesn't look good! I'm so surprised. Tongue out

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/13/paul-ryan-sold-shares-bankin...

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Lord Palmerston

josh wrote:
Not a suprise that Romney would chose Ryan. If you give a Republican nominee a choice of five names, at least nine times out of ten he will pick the most evil fucker in the bunch. And Ryan, an Ayn Rand devotee, is evil. His budget would end Medicare as we know it, slash social spending, all the while cutting taxes for the top 1%. Like the man who selected him.

And whether he wins or loses, the "center" of the US political spectrum moves even further right.

Slumberjack

The sad thing is that no one has thought to arrange a wake for what was once referred to as 'progressive activism' in the USA.  The fact that this zombie will no doubt resurrect itself again if Romney wins the election shouldn't discourage anyone who might wish to pay their final respects.

NorthReport

What a gift for the Democrats as apparently Akin is staying in the race.

I suppose the deep pockets in the GOP haven't come up with enough money yet to get him to quit.

NorthReport

Except Palin overlooked one thing - the filing deadline was July 30th for independent candidates

Sarah Palin weighs in on Todd Akin

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79976.html

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Romney's war on women

Akin fallout could stick to GOP ticket

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80022.html?hp=t1

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NorthReport

This guy's on a science committee!!!

 

Pull Akin off House science committee

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/opinion/martonosi-akin-science/

NorthReport

Hopefully this issue hangs the Republicans out to dry but they have so much money to spend they could win in spite of it

Paul Ryan’s ‘legitimate problem’

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-paul-ryans-legitimat...

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