Oh, wow. So much to unpack here...
I was going to critisize Alan in another thread about deciding laws didn't apply to him and being okay with smashing campaign signs but being honest if I was ordered to turn in all my firearms I would probably only turn in the ones the police know about (ie handguns).
Which would be spectacularly bad planning and reinforces my opinion that most people shouldn't own guns.
I agree banning all firearms would reduce the number of firearms criminals have access to via theft from home owners but I don't think it would really make all that much of a difference. Talking about theft the Toronto police chief had to admit a couple years ago that over 400 guns disapeared from the police evidence lockup in TO.
Except that in Australia it did make a significant difference. So, once again, we are juxtaposing an uninformed and unsupported opinion on an evidence-based opinion.
It doesn't matter what you think.
That the TO police service needs better systems has little to no bearing on the evidence.
Banning something based soley on looks is ridiclous. It's no different than racial profiling.
You are not seriously comparing restrictions on weapons to endemic racism, are you?
Or were you just giving us an illustration of what ridiculous looks like?
Please re-read my answer as to why, actually, it makes good sense not to have one sort of gun masquerading as another and the larger cultural context that might exist in. If you need help, sing out, we'll see if we can walk you through it.
The evidence the ban works is counter-weighed against the evidence it doesn't, as seen in Chicago- toughtest in gun control and murder capital of the US.
Asked and answered. Too local. Anyone wanting a firearm just had to take a short drive outside the city where firearms were still readily available. A national ban is the only level where this would work. Do we have an example of that? Oooooh, let's see..... Could it be..... AUSTRALIA?????
We're evolving scientifically to the point where I can use a 3D printer and print a gun at my kitchen table. We need a new, different approach to curbing violence.
Let's start with the ones that exist now and we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Instead of trying to force a gunman to use 10 bullets instead of 15 or making them pay twice as much money for illegal guns on the street wouldn't it be better to try and figure out why these people feel their last resort is to goto a school and kill children? Or for people to murder their coworkers and upload it on facebook?
Or the guy who has a handgun he only ever uses at the range because he's a law-abiding citizen and some rounds of ammunition and his girlfriend breaks up with him and he's totally distraught... Oh, wait.
I agree about only 10 vs 15 being pointless. Let's ban the device that fires them. Problem solved.