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NDPP

The CENTCOM-EUCOM fight continues. CENTCOM dislikes al-Qaeda in Idlib. EUCOM likes Turkey and sees its Idleb gangs as friendlies (and vid)

https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1230518140888649728

 

US/NATO General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned: Seven Countries in Five Years (and vid)

https://youtu.be/FNt7s_Wed_4

"This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off with Iran..."

NorthReport

300,000?

NorthReport

400,000?

NDPP

'NATO is a Family of Common Values: Turkey is NATO!' (and vid)

https://twitter.com/MaxAbrams/status/1230534082192343041

"Nothing says NATO values like backing Al Qaeda in Syria, helping ISIS stream into the neighborhood Caliphate and rounding up journalists for doing their jobs."

JKR

NorthReport wrote:
400,000?

According to the wiki page 380,000 - 585,000 have been killed, 7,600,000 have been internally displaced, and 5,110,000 are refugees. All this in a country with a population of just 21,000,000 in 2010 and a population of just 17,000,000 in 2019.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria

contrarianna

JKR wrote:

NorthReport wrote:
400,000?

According to the wiki page 380,000 - 585,000 have been killed, 7,600,000 have been internally displaced, and 5,110,000 are refugees. All this in a country with a population of just 21,000,000 in 2010 and a population of just 17,000,000 in 2019.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria

This is a meaningless if it is meant solely as an anti-Assad illustration. With or without Assad's brutality (as one of the few world dictators the US doesn't support) civil wars and proxy wars result in massive casualties irrespective of leadership.

Assad is no Lincoln but under Lincoln 625,000 died about 2% of the US population, more than it lost in 1st and 2nd WW's combined.

Without the support of the US and its middle east allies, and the influx of jihadists as a the result of the US from its previous destructions of Iraq, Libya (with massive and continuing death, misery and chaos) including creation of Al Qaeda from the jihadists it recruited in its anti-Soviet Afghanistan war (also in continuing chaos and death) the situation would be far different.

As a pure civil war it would have been over very quickly with a fraction of the death and destruction that it is now experiencing. The original civil protests (which had many legitimate grievances against Assad) were violently suppressed, as has happened repeatedly in US-sponsored dictatorships with nary a whisper of "humanitarian intervention".  As a state not in the fold of US repressive regimes, the US and its allies have intervened resulting in the current body count, destruction, as is the typical US regime change pattern. Russia forces entered Syria 4 years after the start at the invitation of the Syrian government.

NDPP

Not Since World War One Have the Turks Been Defeated on a Middle Eastern Battlefield - Erdogan Calling Putin...

https://twitter.com/bears_with/status/1231838776416231424

"The Russian and Syrian general staffs and their men have been doing to the Turks what no one has achieved in the Middle East since 1917. So the Sultan has called the Tsar - three times this month so far; in January, once by telephone, twice in face-to-face meetings, and twice by telephone in December. Every time the telephone rings, it is, as the Kremlin communique doesn't fail to mention, 'at the Turkish side's initiative'...

Erdogan has miscalculated his ability to hold on to Idlib, and as the scale of his defeat has materialized, he has become hysterical. The loss of Idlib city and most of the province would be a strategic defeat for Erdogan, but he doesn't know where to draw a red-line his troops can defend. It is unlikely that Turkey will be ready to expel Assad's troops from their positions on a large scale as Erdogan threatens. Most likely, this means the Turks will react more harshly to Assad's attempts to move forward...

NDPP

The Threat Of A Russia-Turkey-NATO Hot War Over Idlib Is A Godsend For US Foreign Policy

https://on.rt.com/abu3

"Turkey is calling for NATO's protection after 33 of its soldiers were killed in an apparent Syrian airstrike in Idlib, allegedly while fighting in terrorist ranks. In the regional chaos that ensues, only one player stands to gain. Speculation over what's to come next has seen #article 5 trending on Twitter in the hours following the attacks, after Omer Celik, spokesman for Turkey's ruling AKP party, indicated to reporters in Ankara that he was looking at requesting formal NATO protection against Damascus and, by proxy, the Russian air force.

'We call on NATO to start consultations. This is not [an attack] on Turkey only, it is an attack on the international community. A common reaction is needed. The attack was also against NATO,' Celik told Turkish media. Article 5 of the NATO treaty says an attack on one is an attack on them all. The State Department also condemned the attacks, stating that it stands by its 'NATO ally Turkey..."

 

Syrian Refugees Run Towards European Border as Turkey Will No Longer Stop Them

https://youtu.be/w8KX2uNtEAY

"Turkey will not longer stop Syrian refugees from reaching Europe, announced a senior Turkish official on Friday, after 33 Turkish soldiers were killed in Idlib and as the country is facing the possibility of a new wave of refugees..."

NDPP

The Salafist Roots of the Syrian Uprising

https://t.co/I1iLYWKrEK?amp=1

"Salafist activists and militants played a key role from the beginning of the uprising, while launching an armed insurrection against the Syrian state. Salafist activists and militants viewed the 2011 uprising as a chance to reignite the 1979-1982 war against the Syrian government, which they viewed as a heretical, 'Alawite-led regime', in hopes  of erecting a fundamentalist relying state in its place. This desire of the Salafists to topple the Syrian government aligned with the goals of US intelligence. US planners sought regime change in Syria to weaken Iran...."

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