We Don't Want The 'Royals'!

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Bacchus

*shrugs* Its what Princess Di did to a large extent as well.  When she could use them, then she manipulated them into helping her causes, otherwise she shunned them

Ken Burch

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

Pondering wrote:

We Can't tax them. They have not applied for citizenship to my knowledge. Not even permanent residency. They are just rich people that plan to live in Canada part-time. 

They should pay their own security. 

that should be fixed.

Agreed.  They should.

Pondering

Famous people do benefit by being famous and do want publicity but that shouldn't make them hunted. Even when Meghan Markle was on suits she kept a relatively low profile. She didn't get gossiped about. She didn't attend all the hippist parties. She did nothing to attract the kind of attention the Kardashians chase. 

Anyone famous should be ready to be recognized and photographed if they pop by the grocery store. They should not have to expect people hiding in the bushes when they go for a walk. They should not be followed around by cars or be constantly watched at their homes just in case they put the garbage out. 

Ken Burch

posting this because, at some point, someone will post it in this thread:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlcIKh6sBtc&list=PLfhekZn7a-5LkjiIqp27iO...

 

NDPP

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Are 'Living On Stolen Land', Say Indigenous Canadian Tribe

https://twitter.com/RussDiabo/status/1221454047569465351

"Chief of the Tseycum tribe Tanya Jimmy has urged the couple to acknowledge the land's history and claims her ancestors are buried beneath it..."

Quite a place these royal wasteproducts have as a result of  the avails of colonialism, broken promises and genocide. No Tseycum will ever live in such a palace on their own stolen land. Unless they were to seize and expropriate this one...

Ken Burch

How about trying to engage those two to campaign FOR acknowledgment of the land theft?

The legacy of colonialism is real-but what actual good would come of simply barring Harry and Meghan from living in Canada?

What, exactly, would that change?

There is a real possibility of getting Harry and Meghan to use their visibility to support the Indigenous land cause, when simply driving them away doesn't really look like it would do anything to help with that.

NDPP

Sure sure that's what Jagmeet and the NDP said too when they were hustling Indigenous votes and look what they got. Ask the Wetsuweten or the Secwepemc how that worked out. Do you have any idea how many brit trash, royals, aristocrats,  Gov Gens and other shady notables over the past couple of centuries have promised to take things up with  the big chief in Ottawa  or the great white mother in London on the land issue? I'm sure the Tseycum do. Let them decide what to do with these latest trespassers.  Good thing the royal couple has many millions they can well afford to spend on the security they might need too.

Sean in Ottawa

Ken Burch wrote:

How about trying to engage those two to campaign FOR acknowledgment of the land theft?

The legacy of colonialism is real-but what actual good would come of simply barring Harry and Meghan from living in Canada?

What, exactly, would that change?

There is a real possibility of getting Harry and Meghan to use their visibility to support the Indigenous land cause, when simply driving them away doesn't really look like it would do anything to help with that.

this makes more sense to me -- even if it is not a certainty that they could be so persuaded. It is not as if what is going on in this country is not already a disaster.

In other news Prince Charles is drawing attention to the contributions of the Iranian people and wanting to visit Iran... Not sure how he would be recieved but his message of peace is likely to be welcome in many places.

 

Ken Burch

NDPP wrote:

Sure sure that's what Jagmeet and the NDP said too when they were hustling Indigenous votes and look what they got. Ask the Wetsuweten or the Secwepemc how that worked out. Do you have any idea how many brit trash, royals, aristocrats,  Gov Gens and other shady notables over the past couple of centuries have promised to take things up with  the big chief in Ottawa  or the great white mother in London on the land issue? I'm sure the Tseycum do. Let them decide what to do with these latest trespassers.  Good thing the royal couple has many millions they can well afford to spend on the security they might need too.

I'm all for them making their decisions on this...my comments were more directed towards your personal fixation on making these two unwelcome.  

 

NDPP

Royal Rumble: Native Band Claims Harry's BC Mansion on 'Stolen Land'

https://t.co/TSVmAK1012?amp=1

"Some of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's new Vancouver Island neighbours aren't quite ready to roll out the welcome wagon. The Tseycum Nation claims the pair's $18- million mansion is built on land stolen by British colonists almost two centuries ago. 'We get no money from the land now, nothing...It's just not right houses like that are built there,' Chief Tanya Jimmy told the Sunday Mirror...Now she wants Harry and Meghan to cough up a land acknowledgement and recognize the ancestors buried on it..."

 

"Shall we allow a few red vagrants to prevent forever industrious settlers from settling on unoccupied lands? Not at all. Locate reservations for them on which to earn their own living and if they trespass on white settlers, punish them severely. A few such lessons should soon enable them to form a correct estimation of their own inferiority and settle the 'Indian Title' too..."  (Victoria Colonist editorial, by Amor de Cosmos, 1861)

As we see with RCMP preparations currently underway to 'punish' Wetsuweten resistance to CGL or teach 'a few lessons' to the Secwepemc resistance to TMX, and 'settle the Indian Title too', despite the 'reconciliation' rhetoric, not much has changed.

 

NDPP

Harry, Meghan Seek A Home Outside Canada

https://www.newser.com/story/286386/harry-markle-seek-a-home-outside-can...

"Prince Harry and Meghan Markle seem to like the land of syrup and hockey, but then there's LA. A source tells E!news that the quasi-royal couple is seeking LaLa land digs and 'hoping' to spend at least part of the summer there while still residing in Canada. Not a huge surprise, considering US Weekly's report a few days ago that Markle - a retired actor, officially - is seeking representation. 'Meghan would like to be able to do meetings t the house and also be able to host friends and entertain,' says the source at E! These are two things that are important to her..."

Far better parties in LA than North Saanich perhaps.

Ken Burch

NDPP wrote:

Harry, Meghan Seek A Home Outside Canada

https://www.newser.com/story/286386/harry-markle-seek-a-home-outside-can...

"Prince Harry and Meghan Markle seem to like the land of syrup and hockey, but then there's LA. A source tells E!news that the quasi-royal couple is seeking LaLa land digs and 'hoping' to spend at least part of the summer there while still residing in Canada. Not a huge surprise, considering US Weekly's report a few days ago that Markle - a retired actor, officially - is seeking representation. 'Meghan would like to be able to do meetings t the house and also be able to host friends and entertain,' says the source at E! These are two things that are important to her..."

Far better parties in LA than North Saanich perhaps.

Mind you, they'd still be on stolen land in LA-land stolen first from the Indigenous by the Spaniards, then from the Mestizo and Indigenous Mexican people by the Anglos.

If you were to take your position on this to its logical extreme, you'd end up having to bar Meghan and Harry from the entire Western Hemisphere.  And Australia.  And New Zealand.

And, arguably, from Britain-since much of it was stolen from the original indigenous population by the Picts and Celts, and then from the Picts and Celts by the Normans, and then from the Normans by the Angles and the Saxons.

If you're going to argue that this couple has no right to live anywhere that isn't stolen land, they pretty much can't on the vast majority of the surface of the Earth.

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