Zerbisias and Farber's t-shirt

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hysperia hysperia's picture

Indeed!  To everything you just said skdadl!  And Wink to you too!

hysperia hysperia's picture

And bring on the vats of boiling oil!

al-Qa'bong

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Farber posted my letter (with my real name of course) at the CJC website and accused me of anti-Semitism.

 

Pfft, join the club. He called me an antisemite too. Hey, we could get t-shirts made up!

Jaku

hysperia wrote:

It might interest you to know that I wrote a letter to Farber and The Star after he had his letter published accusing Zerbisias of being anti-gay (HA HA HA) as well as anti-Israel or anti-Semitic or whatever the hell she is supposed to be.  My letter was mostly on the Israel issue but I did do a small bit of defending of the Zerb as well.  Farber posted my letter (with my real name of course) at the CJC website and accused me of anti-Semitism.  Nice.

Well hysperia, I have checked the CJC site where things seem accessible for 2 years or more and I have not found this alleged letter you claim you posted. I highly doubt the CJC would post such a letter with your real name and then call you an anti-Semite. If I am wrong I will apologize but first please show this board where the letter is posted. If not you should apologize and remove your post from this board .

Cueball Cueball's picture

al-Qa'bong wrote:

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Farber posted my letter (with my real name of course) at the CJC website and accused me of anti-Semitism.

 

Pfft, join the club. He called me an antisemite too. Hey, we could get t-shirts made up!

What should they say: "Bernie Farber knows I am an antisemite"?

al-Qa'bong

Yeah, that or, "Bernie Farber fathered my antisemitic love child," or something along those lines.

aka Mycroft

Jaku, when you have a chance, could you ask former CJC co-president Reuven Bulka exactly how many homosexuals he claims to have "cured"? Perhaps the CJC could put the number on their banner at the next Pride Parade? I can see it now "Canadian Jewish Congress - Proud to have an ex-President who has cured 10,000 homosexuals".

Perhaps Kulanu can wear "Cure me Rabbi Bulka" t-shirts? I think it would be rather cute, don't you?

hysperia hysperia's picture

I didn't say I CARED that Bernie posted my letter. But it wasn't nice.

Jaku

Allegations have been made that a letter was posted on the CJC site naming an individual and claiming that he/she is an anti-Semite. If that is true (which I highly doubt) then the CJC has engaged in libel. I have asked hysperia to prove her allegation or remove the post.

These other silly posts can continue. Only proves that the left bloggers can be as childish as the loony right Steyns and Levants. meanwhile a pretty serious accusation has been leveled and I await proof of this letter.

aka Mycroft

Silly? You think it's silly to mock Reuven Bulka for saying he can "cure" homosexuality or silly that the CJC made him co-president?

Cueball Cueball's picture

Oh gee. Not content with ferreting out the details of a single off-hand comments made on the blog of a minor Toronto Start columnist, the Grand Inquisition in Zionist Triviality now wants to verify the records of comments made by anonymous posters on a marginal left-of center bulltetin board.

Maybe I'll print up some "No body knows I am have no life" T-shirts and send them over to the CJC for distribution.

skdadl

Jaku wrote:

These other silly posts can continue.

 

Oh, look. We got permission. Thanks, Dad.

 

(I must say: I do not consider a discussion of Julia Child's method for poaching eggs to be "silly" in any way. It may be thread drift; I'll grant you that. But there was something about Prophit that reminded me of sue, and sue wrote something about eggs, and, well, you can see how my mind was led astray.)

Jaku

 

hysperia wrote:

I didn't say I CARED that Bernie posted my letter. But it wasn't nice

 

And I am saying that no such letter exists. I am saying that you are making it up. If I am wrong I will apologize to the board. I am syill waiting. And while I wait the rest of you akaMycroft et al carry on wit your silly behaviour, you have my permission.

Jaku

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Cueball Cueball's picture

What could be sillier than popping on an off a web site to complain about a tiney-tiney blog reference to a T-shit made by an insignificant Toronto Star columnist last year. Seriously, you guys had better check your heads because this obsessesive behaviour is not coming across like critical comment, but more like the freaky obsessions of Maoist red guards during the cultural revolution.

aka Mycroft

Jaku, do you honestly not see the hypocricy of the CJC lecturing the LGBT community on human rights when their immediate past co-preisdent is a notorious homophobe who claims to have the ability to "cure" homosexuality?

hysperia hysperia's picture

Oh there is such a letter jaku and it was published in The Star. But I'm damned if I'm going to go find it for you.

Cueball Cueball's picture

Best not. The Red Guards just want to know who you are in all likelyhood.

Prophit

hysperia wrote:

Oh there is such a letter jaku and it was published in The Star. But I'm damned if I'm going to go find it for you.

Hyperia, no doubt there is such a letter in the Toronto Star. Jacu though challenges your allegation that the CJC posted it on their site and called you an anti-Semite. If the CJC did such a thing I want to be the first to condemn it. Please show me where it is on their site I cannot find it.

Cueball Cueball's picture

All this logging in and logging off must get tiring after a while.

hysperia hysperia's picture

Is that you Bernie?  Foot in mouth

Jaku

hysperia wrote:

Oh there is such a letter jaku and it was published in The Star. But I'm damned if I'm going to go find it for you.

Hysperia, I couldn't care less where it may or may not be on the Star sight. In fact you made a claim that your letter was posted on the CJC site and that you were then called an anti-Semite on that site.  Either prove it or apologize becuase you are now simply embarassing yourself.

Calderwood

This is all too suspect. Hysperia appears just as CJC is being pushed hard on this tshirt thing with a wild story about a letter she sent that supposedly appears at the Jewish Congress site. She also claims that CJC then calls her an anti-semite.

Then Jaku and prophit show up to defend CJC.

And of course a simple search of the CJC site shows no such letter or public call of anyone as an anti-semite by cjc exists.

Conclusion:Hysperia is a cjc shill sent here to take you all off topic and you got sucked in. Gotta give cjc credit. It knows how to stick it!

Prophit

That's a hoot Calderwood. Hopefully you are joking because otherwise you need to be checked to ensure you are not from the tinfoil hat crowd.

hysperia hysperia's picture

*sigh*

Check how long I've been on this site oh silly one. And skdadl knows me. If I tell you where the letter is, I "out" my name and I'm not doing that - an invitation to harassment. So STFU

skdadl

It's true. I know hysperia to be a person of many kinds of integrity, including bodily, irl. I would have claimed her as a sock puppet of my own, actually, except she does so many things I can't do, and I could never keep up with that schedule.

Jaku

hysperia wrote:

*sigh*

Check how long I've been on this site oh silly one. And skdadl knows me. If I tell you where the letter is, I "out" my name and I'm not doing that - an invitation to harassment. So STFU

That's a real good one hysperia. Well maybe you can tell us this, where are ANY letters from ANYONE on the CJC site. Typically it seems to post newspaper articles and letters to the editor they themselves write. That's it, nothin else there!! And maybe you can show us anywhere on the entire site where CJC calls any individual an "Anti-Semite. One will do.

You're grasping at straws hysperia. I think Calderwood is full of it that I agree with you on. But you know and now everyone here knows that your letter simply doesnt exist. You made it all up. Again if you can prove it I will apologize. I'm not holding my breath.

skdadl

Does this mean that we've moved on from l'affaire Antonia to l'affaire hysperia? The FoFs have a new comment on a modest website to obsess over for the next year or so? *popcorn* 

Jaku

Funny Skdadl...hysperia is using you as a reference. Do you back her up? Do you believe really that CJC  printed her letter on their site and then called her an anti-Semite? Did she show YOU the letter?

skdadl

Jaku, I can't answer those questions for a variety of reasons, ignorance and a refusal to "out" either hysperia or myself first among them.

 

I know her to be a wonderful person who is neither your sock puppet nor mine. I think that's the only way in which she used me as a reference, yes/no?

hysperia hysperia's picture

I'm more than happy to take Antonia's place! Yes, skadl, that was all I called upon from you as a reference - that it's highly unlikely to impossible that I'm a CJC shill.  It's a new and exciting idea though.  I'd likely take less sh*t than I do among supposedly liberal doodz.

Cueball Cueball's picture

Are you now writing, or have you ever written a letter to the Toronto Star?

hysperia hysperia's picture

I think I'm allowed to be read my rights now.

Bacchus

Jaku, you are not supposed to attack babblers and accuse them of things like lying AND you are not supposed to try to out babblers, even if you think they are lying (like was done to Charter Rights))

Reported to mods

 

 

CJC/Israel delenda est

aka Mycroft

It is interesting how no one who supports the CJC is interested in defending former co-president Reuven Bulka against charges of homophobia and quackery for claiming to be able to "cure" homosexuality. Surely one of you must be willing to stand up for him?

Jaku

I am not trying to "out" anyone. Hysperia made an allegation that she sent a letter to CJC and that this letter was posted on its site. Then according to Hysperia someone at the CJC commented on its site that the letter writer was an anti-Semite.

I had then searched the CJC site for such a letter and to determine if there was a public denunciation as described by Hysperia.

Interestingly I found that no such letter exists and no such denunciation exists. In fact I found that the CJC does not typically (if at all) print letters other than its own or from time to time letters that have been publicly printed in newspapers but never such letters in which it has in any way responded.

I believe it is improper to make accusations against people or organizations here or anywhere for that matter that are untrue and that can potentially libel that person or organization. I would be surprised if Babble rules would permit such a thing.

I stand by my earlier claim that I will gladly apologize to hysperia and this entire board if in fact such a letter exists on the CJC site with a comment claiming that the writer is an anti-Semite.

Cueball Cueball's picture

aka Mycroft wrote:

It is interesting how no one who supports the CJC is interested in defending former co-president Reuven Bulka against charges of homophobia and quackery for claiming to be able to "cure" homosexuality. Surely one of you must be willing to stand up for him?

So tell me more about this Bulka fellow. He sound kind of confused. Perhaps he need help?

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

Jaku wrote:

I stand by my earlier claim that I will gladly apologize to hysperia and this entire board if in fact such a letter exists on the CJC site with a comment claiming that the writer is an anti-Semite.

Your unreasonable demand requires a far better prize than another of your mealy-mouthed apologies.

Prophit

I am unclear why Jacu should apologize. He is not the one who has made the allegation which has not been proven. He is not the one who maligned a longstanding and respected organization.

Michelle

You guys would love it if hysperia outed herself so you could trash her some more, wouldn't you?  She's already said she's not going to do it, and I'll take ten hysperias over even one of you fanboys, much less the endless supply we seem to have of you.

It's particularly galling to watch you gang up on hysperia and try to pressure her to out herself when she certainly participates here in a much more constructive way, and more in keeping with the intent of this web site than you guys do.

I can't wait for the next time the mods decide to clean house.  You two are nothing but a destructive force here, and you always have been.

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

Prophit wrote:

I am unclear why Jacu should apologize. He is not the one who has made the allegation which has not been proven. He is not the one who maligned a longstanding and respected organization.

He could start by apologizing for violating established policy here by calling for a poster to reveal her public identity. He could also apologize for implying said-poster was in some way less than honest.

IMO the two of you should be banned, given this behaviour and your continuing campaign to cause confusion here in the face of the facts.

Slumberjack

Michelle wrote:
I can't wait for the next time the mods decide to clean house.  You two are nothing but a destructive force here, and you always have been.

Just in time for spring cleaning.  I wonder if they'll take requests this time.

Maysie Maysie's picture

Jaku, Prophit back off. You're harassing hysperia and it's not ok. No babbler needs another to "vouch" for them.

You both are on thin ice here and this is a final warning before a suspension, temporary or otherwise.

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Is this thread over yet? What's next, bumper stickers?

Bacchus

Oooh Bumper stickers?

 

 

"Bernie tossed my salad and it was kosher"?

Maysie Maysie's picture

1. Now that's what I'm talking 'bout, Bacchus.

2. Euwwwwwww!!!

Jaku

I have no interest in outing anyone. My only interest is to the truth. Thus I have sent the CJC an email asking about its letter policy and if it has labeled letter writers as anti-Semitic anywhere on its site. If I receive a response from CJC I will post it . If in fact such a letter exists on the cjc site with a response calling the writer anti-Semitic, I will voluntarily take myself off Babble forever and will inform CJC that I can in no way support such activities. I will not, even if such info exists, post anything at anytime that would identify any babbler.

Michelle

Careful, Bacchus - our publisher might get a call demanding that she denounce you for that joke.  I can see it now.

"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a waiter or a line cook in any establishment where Bacchus has been a diner.  I demand that you retract that defamatory, anti-semitic falsehood from your site and post a full-page apology.  I will not rest until you denounce your forum member in the strongest of terms!"

Bacchus

Im sure he is most used to having his salad tossed by places like the Star, not tossing one himself

Michelle

Haha!

Jaku

As promised I wrote to Mr. Farber. Below is his response to me with identifying info removed. FYI

  RE: Rabble and CJC‏

From:
Offline Bernie Farber ([email protected])

Sent:
May 10, 2010 2:12:36 PM

To:
 

 

 
 

 
 

 Dear Ms. xxxxxxx:

 Thank you for your email. Yours was the second request I had today regarding our policy on letters and emails posted to our site. I had the opportunity to read the thread in question and must admit that I was somewhat taken aback by the inordinate amount of attention being paid to me and my T-shirt at last year's Pride parade. As to your query, CJC does not post individual emails or letters on our site. We certainly would never post emails or comments that we believe to be antisemitic and then target that individual by labeling the writer as an antisemite. Indeed I am sad to report that we receive many emails that are in fact antisemitic and those which cross the legal line are simply reported to the police.

 I hope this information is helpful. I am always pleased to chat with you or anyone who has concerns or questions pertaining to CJC policy. Please feel free to call me at the phone number provided below if you so choose.

 Best;

BMF

  Bernie M. Farber

 Chief Executive Officer/ Directeur général

 Canadian Jewish Congress/ Congrès juif canadien

Canadian Jewish Congress Charities Committee/

Comité des charités

 4600 Bathurst Street

 Toronto Ont.

 M2R 3V2

 416-635-2883 ext 5186

 

 

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