Four workers die in the war to survive - one more in critical condition

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Le T Le T's picture
Four workers die in the war to survive - one more in critical condition

A tragic occurance on another un-safe work site.

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NorthReport

I wonder which contractor put up the scaffolding. And what kind of training and credentials his employees had to erect scaffolding?

We need to find out what caused the scaffolding to collapse.

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/video/scaffolding-collapse-kills-four/article1412026/

 

G. Muffin

Fuck, that's an awful story.

remind remind's picture

Sincere condolences to the friends, co-workers and families for the tragic loss of these 4 men, and  I give honour to their life and death as workers.

 

Also, want to wish the fifth injured worker and his family all the best, and give my thoughts for a total recovery.

munroe

It looks like it was a hanging scaffold that sheared off in the centre.  The cause will come out, but with five people on it if there were maintenace issues it could have been a death trap.  It also appears if the workers were wearing safety lines, they must have been tied off to the scaffold itself.  It really is sad to see how safety in the industry has deteriorated.

Tommy_Paine

One worker was still attached to scaffold by his safety harness.

From an eye witness in the first CBC article.   Eyewitness accounts are not always what they are cracked up to be, but the fact that they all fell means they weren't tied off to the building.  So it looks like that if they were tied off, they were tied to the scaffolding.

Speaks to a lack of training, and not taking all precautions reasonable in the protection of a worker. 

 

 

Doug
Unionist

I can't listen to this story and I can't look away. This makes me sick. It brings back all the injuries and deaths in my sector over the decades, including workers I knew personally. My heart goes out to the families and friends of those who gave their lives.

 

yarg

A terrible tragedy, i suppose we should reserve judgement, but these sort of accidents are all too often the result of cutting corners and cheaping out on safety by some heartless employer not to suspect the same here.

al-Qa'bong

Unionist wrote:

I can't listen to this story and I can't look away. This makes me sick. It brings back all the injuries and deaths in my sector over the decades, including workers I knew personally. My heart goes out to the families and friends of those who gave their lives.

 

 

I second that.

I used to be nervous on scaffolding that was less than two storeys high.  I can't imagine trusting my safety to that rickety stuff at anything higher than 30 feet.

Tommy_Paine

 

My ex's aunt and uncle were re-doing a house, and had scaffolding set up in thier kitchen, along a wall to speed up some work and avoid having to go up and down a ladder a million times.   Because they were only about four feet off the ground, the contractor who was helping them didn't bother to put in all the locking pins or bolts or whatever.   It gave way, her uncle shattered both ankles and never walked without a cane again.

The photo of the scaffolding rig associated with this accident looks like it's made in two sections, I'm guessing so that it's adjustable for length.  It doesn't look broken, it looks like some kind of locking mechanism failed.  Perhaps someone more familiar with that kind of scaffolding can shed better light.

My fear about this is because four of the five workers died, and the fifth is in such bad condition, we may not ever know exactly what transpired here.  

Which means it could happen again.

 

Le T Le T's picture

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I can't listen to this story and I can't look away. This makes me sick. It brings back all the injuries and deaths in my sector over the decades, including workers I knew personally. My heart goes out to the families and friends of those who gave their lives.

 

My thoughts exactly. I have family and many friends who will be back on scafold monday morning. I've only been working in construction a few years and I've seen too many close calls at heights.

If anyone hears of any efforts to help or support the families of these workers please post them here. I will be looking out for this and do the same.

ennir

What you have all said, a tragedy for the men, their families and friends, my heart goes out to all of them.

NorthReport

Coward owners hiding behind a numbered company. Numbered companies need  to be abolished as well as the devious lawyers accountants, and politicians who set them up.

 

If the owners came clean and identified themselves their comments might be more believable.  

 

Toronto building owners express sadness over workers’ deaths

 

http://www.canada.com/news/Toronto+building+owners+express+sadness+over+workers+deaths/2380210/story.html

SparkyOne

A very sad story, I think.

I'm still trying to figure out when at Rabble I'm suposed to feel bad when someone passes away and when I should make jokes about them not passing away sooner.

Unionist

Why don't you get your sarcastic mouth out of this thread until your brain and heart have been repaired, if possible? That would be a good start.

Tommy_Paine

http://www.brandoncom.ca/site.html

 

Website for Danny Roth, spokesman for 2058876 Ontario Ltd.

 

And, maybe someone with more business savy can tell me what the significance of this is:

 

 

http://www.dailycommercialnews.ca/csp/107217

SparkyOne

Unionist wrote:

Why don't you get your sarcastic mouth out of this thread until your brain and heart have been repaired, if possible? That would be a good start.

 

So when someone you don't like dies or the topic of them dying comes up (like the play on names about a cat dying instead of the owner) it's okay to crack jokes.. when it hits close to home then it's different?

Okay..

My heart go out to the friends and family of anyone who passes away and you'll never see me making a joke about death regardless who the person was.

Thanks.

remind remind's picture

Do you really fail to see the difference between those who have, or had, power over millions and abused it, and poor, and most likely exploited, migrant workers who fell to their death while working?

SparkyOne

I don't like walking down the road of deciding who should be ridiculed in death and who should not.

remind remind's picture

There is no decision to make in most mocking cases, but if you want to use moral sanctimoniousness in order to prove to yourself you are superior, have it at it.

 

Myself, I will side in empathy with the workers each and every time, and mock the brutal rich when and if I feel like it, each and everytime too.

 

I have no need to emapthcize with my oppressors, may they be alive or dead.

 

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Der Fuhrer?  Long live Madoff?  You're not cute Sparky, in fact you're a dud.

SparkyOne

RevolutionPlease, dropping the N(azi) bomb so soon?

Original.

I don't mind being bashed for being gay or even on the receiving end of racisim because I feel sorry for people who were brought up ignorant.

I'm dumbfounded when someone makes off handed Nazi remarks when you don't like someone or especially just don't agree with what their saying.  Especially used so far out of context.

Der Fuhrer? Yes RevolutioPlease, I'm Hitler.  How very progressive of you.

 

Remind I envy you. I wish I still saw the world as poor worker and rich oppressive men and women.

I don't think anyone should be made fun of in death. You disagree then that's your boat.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

SparkyOne wrote:

I don't like walking down the road of deciding who should be ridiculed in death and who should not.

 

Umm, snarky, you didn't get it did you?

SparkyOne

Nope I found it quite offensive. Maybe you can PM me what you meant and I can publically apologise for taking a hitler reference out of context and the thread can get back on track.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Nah, I'm happy to leave it at you being offended as I was by your derailment of these deaths.

SparkyOne

Suit yourself. Reported

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Hmmm.  Guess I hit a nerve or something.

Tommy_Paine

Anyway.

 

 

Tommy_Paine wrote:

http://www.brandoncom.ca/site.html

 

Website for Danny Roth, spokesman for 2058876 Ontario Ltd.

 

And, maybe someone with more business savy can tell me what the significance of this is:

 

 

http://www.dailycommercialnews.ca/csp/107217

 

Anyone?

SparkyOne

What's the idea behind a numbered company?

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Tommy here's Section 32 of the Construction Lien Act referred to in your second link.  It seems too legalese at first glance for me.

 

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_90c30_e.htm#BK36

 

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Rules governing certification or declaration of substantial performance

32.  (1)  The following rules govern the certification and declaration of the substantial performance of a contract:

1. On the application of the contractor, the payment certifier shall determine whether the contract has been substantially performed in accordance with section 2, and, if the payment certifier so determines, shall certify the substantial performance of the contract by signing a certificate in the prescribed form. If there is no payment certifier, the owner and contractor shall make the determination jointly and shall both sign the certificate.

2. The payment certifier or the owner and the contractor jointly, as the case may be, shall set out in the certificate the date on which the contract was substantially performed.

3. The date set out in the certificate as the date on which the contract was substantially performed is deemed for the purpose of this Act to be the date on which that event occurred.

4. Where the payment certifier certifies the substantial performance of a contract the payment certifier shall within seven days of the day the certificate is signed give a copy of the certificate to the owner and to the contractor.

5. The contractor shall publish a copy of the certificate once in a construction trade newspaper.

6. Where the contractor does not publish a copy of the certificate within seven days of receiving a copy of the certificate signed by the payment certifier or, where there is no payment certifier, signed by the owner, any person may publish a copy of the certificate.

7. Where there is a failure or refusal to certify substantial performance of the contract within a reasonable time, any person may apply to the court, and the court, upon being satisfied that the contract is substantially performed, and upon such terms as to costs or otherwise as it considers fit, may declare that the contract has been substantially performed, and the declaration has the same force and effect as a certificate of substantial performance of the contract.

8. Unless the court otherwise orders, the day the declaration is made shall be deemed to be the date the contract was substantially performed.

9. The person who applied to the court shall publish a copy of the declaration of substantial performance once in a construction trade newspaper.

10. For the purposes of this Part, a certificate or declaration of the substantial performance of a contract has no effect until a copy of the certificate or declaration is published. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.30, s. 32 (1).

Contents of certificate

(2)  Every certificate or declaration made or given under this section shall include,

(a) the name and address for service of the owner and of the contractor;

(b) the name and address of the payment certifier, where there is one;

(c) a short description of the improvement;

(d) the date on which the contract was substantially performed;

(e) where the lien attaches to the premises, a concise description containing a reference to lot and plan or instrument registration number sufficient to identify the premises; and

(f) the street address, if any, of the premises. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.30, s. 32 (2).

Liability for refusal to certify

(3)  Any person who is required by this section to make a determination of the substantial performance of a contract, and who after receiving an application fails or refuses within a reasonable time to certify the substantial performance of the contract, even though there is no reasonable doubt that the contract has, in fact, been substantially performed, is liable to anyone who suffers damages as a result. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.30, s. 32 (3).

Liability for failure to furnish copy of certificate

(4)  A payment certifier who fails to comply with paragraph 4 of subsection (1) is liable to anyone who suffers damages as a result. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.30, s. 32 (4).

Manner of publication

(5)  A construction trade newspaper shall publish upon commercially reasonable terms copies of certificates or declarations of substantial performance in the prescribed form and manner. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.30, s. 32 (5).

 

Tommy_Paine

 

So, it would seem it's just a routine announcement that work was done, and it was paid for.    I saw the word "lien"  and wondered if this was evidence of some kind of dispute between 2058876 Ontario Ltd and a contractor.  But, it seems not.  

 

What's the idea behind a numbered company?

 

To keep the ownership annonymous, I guess is the short answer.  However, I think if one pays a fee somewhere with the Ontario government, the names connected to the numbered company are available.  I think someone in the media is probably doing that now.  Or waiting for an office to open up next week so they can.  I suspect this information isn't available on line.  

 

Doing my own admittedly laughable amatuer research on 2058876 Ontario Ltd., at elections Ontario, I found that this entity has not contributed-- or at least there is no record-- to either the Conservatives or Liberals.   I didn't search municiple records-- I don't even know if they are on line.  I should check some time.

 

Interestingly, however, I did find at the Elections Ontario site a sentence saying that contributions to political parties cannot be done anonymously.   Yet, the first couple of pages on both parties list of contributors is from numbered companies.   I think it's obvious that this doesn't violate the letter of the law, but it sure plunders the spirit of it.

 

 

 

Scotty Hertz

In the last paragraph of this article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/742728--4-migrant-workers-die-in...

the worker electrocuted at the Holiday Inn gets mentioned. I am always sad and immediately angry to hear of this.

25 years old.

It takes forever for the report to come out but generally the story is the same, somewhere a lockout lock is sitting on a hook dusty and unused.

And this tradesman always ends up in tears on April 28th. When does it end?

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

When we all stand up.

NorthReport

Gotta love our establishment principles. Looks kind of scuzzy but to be expected when Canadian lawyers and accountants are involved. 

 

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interestingly, however, I did find at the Elections Ontario site a sentence saying that contributions to political parties cannot be done anonymously.   Yet, the first couple of pages on both parties list of contributors is from numbered companies.   I think it's obvious that this doesn't violate the letter of the law, but it sure plunders the spirit of it.

jrootham

Numbered companies are also cheaper in that no search need be done to see if the name is already in use.

Vote Toronto should have municipal contributions but I don't see how to look for numbered companies there.

 

 

Tommy_Paine

It takes forever for the report to come out but generally the story is the same, somewhere a lockout lock is sitting on a hook dusty and unused.

If I get caught inside a cell without my lock being on not just the electrical power, but all the pnuematics, and gravity reduced to zero energy, not only would I get suspended, but my union rep would only make sure I wasn't getting a suspension that was out of line with the usual.   There'd be no argument about not being disciplined; there is no extenuating circumstance.

But in small operations where there's no union health and safety rep, the practices would undoubtedly outrage us.   Lack of training, systemic encouragement of corner cutting, hireing desperate workers who wouldn't say shit if they had a mouthfull.  

As the jobless "recovery" ambles on, prepare yourself for worse.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Helmet on early, people think I'm crazy...

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/743013--questions-raised-about-f...

 

 

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"Typically, there are two-piece swing stages because the more connections you have, the more probability that something will fail," said Rob McLellan, a health and safety expert with the Clarkson Group, a management consulting company.

"A four-piece swing stage increases risk of failure drastically." Four-piece swing stages are rare and very unusual, he added.

Used by window-washers and restoration contractors, swing stages are comprised of two aluminum ridges fastened with nuts and bolts. "I would never use a stage longer than 20 feet (6 1/2 metres)," said Danny Luigi, a construction contractor. He pointed out the one that collapsed was twice that length.

Toronto police and Ontario's ministry of labour have not released the name of the construction company that employed the five workers.

Some construction companies use a large swing stage to work on two adjoining balconies at the same time, said Chris Heald, who works for Riviera Restoration. "Sure, it saves time, but is it safe? No."

If a four-piece swing stage is used, its foundation is reinforced and it must be tethered by extra cables to make it safe for workers.

"You can see it wasn't done in this case," he pointed out.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

And why the fuck isn't the company being named? 

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

This guy Danny Roth, the spokesperson, is also spokesperson for Sunrise Propane, remember the explosion in Toronto?  He might be more shady than Navigator.

 

 
http://www.thestar.com/article/477406

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Lennox's company began selling gasoline products and lubricants to Sunrise Petroleum in 1999. The 2002 judgment ruled that Sunrise Petroleum had forged a First Choice employee signature on a document stating Sunrise Petroleum was being replaced by a new legal company, Sunrise Petroleum Lubricants, and that Sunrise Petroleum was thereby no longer responsible for its outstanding accounts. Sunrise Petroleum appealed the ruling in 2003 and lost. Lennox said he has been unable to collect payment from the company or Ben-Moshe since then.
In the court ruling, Justice Bruce Glass wrote that Sunrise documents referred to "a variety of names for Sunrise," citing three, and that even Ben-Moshe himself "could not keep the names straight." Yesterday, Lennox said, "They just change company names like they change socks."
Sean Ben-Moshe's Thornhill home is owned by his wife, Ronit Ben-Moshe. Sunrise Propane's new spokesperson, Danny Roth, said yesterday that Sean Ben-Moshe, Valery Belahov and Leon Belahov, who was also cited in the court case, currently own the two companies that were located at the Murray Rd. site: Sunrise Propane Energy Group and Sunrise Propane Industrial Gases. They also own three retail outlets in Toronto.

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Asked why there have been at least four Sunrise companies registered to Ben-Moshe, Roth said, "There may have been different names used at different points for different companies that did different things, which is not that unusual in business."

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

This guy stays busy:

 

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/4494--many-unh...

 

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The property managers have arranged for an all-day barbecue for tenants and each unit will get a $100 grocery card to help restock their shelves, along with a complete cleaning kit.

They are also planning on giving tenants a rent break.  According to Roth, returning residents will only be charged rent from Sept. 15th onward, even though they will likely return this weekend.

 

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Many were also victimized by heartless thieves, who broke into their empty apartments.

"You guys have lied. You guys have lied," one angry resident said, interrupting the press conference announcing the plans for re-occupancy.

"We've been traumatized and hurt because of this. We were lied to by Preston. They told us that we could break our leases without penalty, that there would be no fault of our own if we were to leave, and that was said in front of (Councillor) Janet Davis, in front of the fire marshal, in front of the police chief. And then a week later we were told, 'You have to give us 60 days notice or we'll be taking you to court.' That's not acceptable."

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Good Jebus, thank you for not having this guy adopt me.

 

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2008/11/c3851.html

 

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Danny Roth is founder and President of Brandon Communications, a
Toronto-based public relations firm. He is an officer and executive board
member of the Canadian Jewish Congress, Ontario region. A committed advocate
for Canadians struggling with infertility problems, he is a director on the
board of the Infertility Awareness Association of Canada. Mr. Roth and his
wife are adoptive parents.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Nice and tight with McSquinty too:

 

http://news.ontario.ca/mcys/en/2008/07/mcguinty-government-announces-expert-panel-on-infertility-and-adoption.html

 

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McGuinty government announces expert panel on infertility and adoption

 

Fittingly, he was absent for the picture.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Here's the latest I found on the mysterious company:

 

http://www.avisonyoung.com/library/pdf/Toronto-ResearchFolder/GTA_Invest...

 

Quote:

One notable exception

was the sale of The Riverside Apartments for over $54 million to an Israeli

group in late December.

 

See pg. 3

Tommy_Paine

 

Well, it seems to me Mr. Roth specializes in damage control.  And, one can do that without lying or misrepresenting.   

Given the ethics of some Toronto "journalists"  as displayed during the aftermath of the death of Alan Shepard, we might be watchfull for stories coming out in the next week trying to blame the workers for the accident.  

And we should be taking names.

 

Is anyone else having trouble with Revolution Please' link in post #44?  I can't get it to load.

Scrap that, it loaded.

 

Nice find, Revolution Please.   I had actually come across that info yesterday, but I just read the details on the chart, and not the text.

NorthReport

Lazy journalists should have publicized the name of the contractor by now - probably some Liberal or Conservative Party donor. I wonder if these foreign workers even had the proper documentation to work in Canada. There is a huge exploitation of foreign workers in Canada - which is another black eye for our sinking reputation.

Polunatic2

Radio news report today say that the type of scaffolding used was not in common use anymore and that having 5 people on the scaffold was not a common practice. One contractor stated that he would never have more than 2 workers on a scaffold. 

Tommy_Paine

Lazy journalists should have publicized the name of the contractor by now - probably some Liberal or Conservative Party donor. I wonder if these foreign workers even had the proper documentation to work in Canada.

 

Toronto police released information to the media that counters the rumours that the workers were here illegally.   It's funny, the information that suddently becomes available when it means protecting the corporate interests.

RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

They may not be here illegally accoring to the popo but something sure smells:

 

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2009/12/27/12276956-sun.html

 

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Korostin, 40, and Cherniakova moved their family to Canada from Israel as refugee claimants about three years ago.

 

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Even worse, she has a hearing coming up next month for her landed immigrant status and she's afraid that without her husband's financial support she could be deported back to Israel.

I hope this woman finds the help she needs to stay here.

Bacchus

Refugee claimants from Israel? That shining example of democracy of racial harmony?

Claimants from the West Bank or Gaza I could understand but Israel?

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