Michelle closed the thread for good reason, but it was while I was struggling to get my horrible dial-up connection to wade through the babble technology and post an answer.
A new thread has an interest beyond answering the union bashing. But I'm still going to first quote the original opening post [without a readily available quote function].
"Well, the UAW has finally done it this time. They've given the right wing all they need to make unions look like villains for the next fifty years, and given governments enough justification to dismantle unions across the globe.
At a time when the big three auto-manufacturers are struggling for survival, the US government is demanding that UAW wages fall into line with the Japanese auto workers.
But the UAW is not willing to make that concession until 2011.
So in essence, we have workers working for a non-profitable business on the verge of bankruptcy that make considerably more in wages and benefits than their counterparts at Toyota and Honda (who still do pretty well). But rather than accept a lower wage, these union employees are now asking the American public to subsidize these companies and top up their wage.
I think most Americans have no problem topping up the wage of a single mother earning minimum wage, or the handicapped, or even someone who is just out of work, but to ask the American taxpayer to chip in so that people making 80,000 a year (with phenomenal benefits) don't have to take a paycut, is just absurd.
People haven't begrudged auto-workers from making very good wages, since they were merely sharing in the profits of a massively succesful business. But they aren't exactly succesful now, and these autoworkers still seem to feel entitled to the wage that they were earning previously despite everything going on around them.
The golden goose of auto-manufacturing is dead, and not far behind, is high-paying union jobs for the foreseeable future. "
There is no amount of surrender to the US right wing that would satisfy them, so the thread title is a non-starter.
Interesting side-note: in Canada the print media headlines pin the blame for the bailout collapse on the UAW [even when the text of the story talks a lot about Republican intransigence]. But the headlines in the US are about the general dire situation.
And lets look at the blackmail that was demanded in the so-called Republican "compromise". The bailout package passed the House easily and had Bushes support. It was also gauranteed a majority in the Senate, but not the 60-40 "super majority" required to block the filibuster that is the Republican standard practice of killing legislation. AND, some of those bullying Republican senators in the minority are lame ducks who lost their seats.
The so-called compromise demanded of the UAW that it negotiate for equivalent pay and benefits to the non-union Southern Asian manufacturers within 6 months, and that it accept half stock instead of cash for company penson contributions. [In other words take only half funding for pensions, and if retirees are lucky the stock will be worth something.]
The UAW has been making huge concessions for years now. And every time they do Toyota and Nissan drop wages and benefits in unison. Its a race for a goal post that keeps moving back... not "catching up". Wages in the non-union are already the same. "Negotiating" the benefit packages to be the same would end the UAW. Period.
Thats fine with the Southern Senators that pushed this. And you can be their Canadian dupe if you want.