Saskatchewan election Nov 2 2020

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Ken Burch

It appears that Meili chose to cave in to the "Stay The Course" crowd.  For the life of me, I can't imagine why he didn't say to them, "staying the course is why we lost by thirty points last time.  In what universe would it ever make sense to I stay THAT course?"

Aristotleded24

Strategy and ideology are 2 different things Ken. We all agree that Mulcair's instincts during the 2015 election were horrible, but his strategy in opposition is essentially what paved the way for Harper's defeat. Sure Meili had ideas, but as Misfit said, where was he on the big scandals and big issues? He should be front and centre speaking on that, instead of leaving it to one of his Regina-area MLAs. I don't know if Trent Worthespoon is more on the establishment wing of the party, but under his watch as interim leader, the NDP was in first place in Saskatchewan. Would he have won the election if he ran? I don't know, but obviously something happened under his watch to make that a realistic possibility.

Ken Burch

Aristotleded24 wrote:

Strategy and ideology are 2 different things Ken. We all agree that Mulcair's instincts during the 2015 election were horrible, but his strategy in opposition is essentially what paved the way for Harper's defeat. Sure Meili had ideas, but as Misfit said, where was he on the big scandals and big issues? He should be front and centre speaking on that, instead of leaving it to one of his Regina-area MLAs. I don't know if Trent Worthespoon is more on the establishment wing of the party, but under his watch as interim leader, the NDP was in first place in Saskatchewan. Would he have won the election if he ran? I don't know, but obviously something happened under his watch to make that a realistic possibility.

All valid points.  And of course strategy and ideology are two separate things.

It strikes me, though, that Meili seems to have listened to whoever it was in the party braintrust who argued that no changes in ideology OR strategy should be made- and this makes it look, to my eyes from a distance, as if Meili is running the same campaign his predecessor ran.

DO you feel I'm being unfair in that assertion?

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Day 15: The Brightenview/GTH Land Scam

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5756542

"Today, I’m bringing attention to the GTH disaster. The story came out today, and confirmed what many have known for a long time: The GTH deal w/Brightenview was sketchy at best.

Millions of our money has been wasted on all of this, and the GTH is a huge failure, mostly because of incompetence and shady Sask. Party deals that, once again, were made to reward their friends. What a mess!

Basically, the Sask. Party was busted using taxpayer money to reward wealthy donors by paying them way more for land than what it was worth. Desperate to prove that the land was worth the exorbitant amount they paid, govt threw together a deal with Brightenview, a shady company, to also buy some land for an insane amount. It looks like in exchange, the Sask Party made some crazy promises to Brightenview which it seems they didn’t fulfil. Brad Wall even made a trip to China for these people.

The story is complicated, and really that’s what the Sask. Party is betting on. Just know that the whole thing has been a scam and a giant waste of money. You can also read four years worth of @gleocbc reporting on the whole fiasco, if you are so inclined.

Anyway, it’s kind of validating to read this article and now see that a lot of what many of us assumed, but had no proof of prior to the 2016 election was true."

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GTH - the province bought up hundreds of acres of land for a global transportation hub on the CP rail line west of Regina for the wholesale warehouse and distribution of goods.

In one segment, the government bought up 204 acres of land from a wealthy Regina businessman with ties to the Sask Party, for $103,000 per acre that was appraised to be worth $30,000 per acre. 

Also, an Alberta businessman bought 103 acres from an Order of Nuns for $55,000.00 an acre and then sold the land to the Saskatchewan government for millions more. The nuns were not impressed.

The government then attracted a Chinese company, Brightenview, to buy up 30 acres of this land at $256,000.00 per acre to set up a Chinese mega mall. Chinese investors were allegedly promised immigration for investment by the Saskatchewan government.

Brightenview bought 10 acres and built the 40,000 sq.foot mega mall. Some Chinese investors set up stores in this mega mall. Brightenview leased another 10 acres from the government to build its office headquarters. 

Chinese investors were denied immigration by the Federal government and the Saskatchewan government allegedly flip-flopped on their immigration promises to the Chinese investors so they all pulled out.

Brightenview now refuses to pay their lease because without immigration tied to the investment like they claim the Saskatchewan government promised them, Chinese investors no longer want to invest in Saskatchewan, so Brightenview does not intend to pay their debt that they owe the government because their money all went back to China. 

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Saskatchewan election leaders debate

Wednesday 6:00 PM on CTV Regina.
60 minute debate.

Buddy Kat

Wife and I just got our mail in ballots .....funny we both live in the same house for 25 years and she now votes for a candidate in a differant riding than me. Wonder if this some kind of election gimmick that conservatives are noted for. On a side note ...months ago the courts ruled that Harper DID CHEAT in the last election he won. Funny how the media didn't pick up on that news.

Aristotleded24

Hi Buddy, welcome back! So nice to have more Prairie voices here! How have you been? :)

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