The new Russophobia

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Probe Launched into Fox News Analyst's 'Kill Russians' Comment

http://rt.com/politics/240149-russia-general-us-probe/

"Russia's top federal law enforcement agency has opened a criminal probe into the statement by a retired US Army general, who suggested that the Ukrainian crisis could be settled by 'killing Russians.'

The statement was made on US TV network FOX NEWS on Wednesday. The analyst, Robert H Scales, a former US Army major general, said that the only way the US could have any effect in this region was to start killing Russians in large quantities to provoke protests in Russia itself after a great number of KIAs start to arrive from Ukraine.

Washington is setting the tone for 'shameless anti-Russian [hate] propaganda, reiterating each day aggressive statements,' said Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich..."

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The latest Russophobia: Russian President Putin hasn't been seen in public in a few days and, already, there is a glut of stories, basically completely fabricated, about Putin dying from chicken pox, Putin getting surgery, Putin falling off his horse, Putin getting a new alien brain, etc., endless nonsense about his health in western MSM.

Google "Putin's health" and see what I mean.

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More fabrications and ridiculous nonsense about the Russian President, V V Putin:

Coup d'etat in Russia?

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..., will whoever is in charge in Russia soon dot the horizons with mushroom clouds and draw 'big blood' from the west while sending the entire world into a nuclear holocaust?

Vladimir Putin in Switzerland for birth of his "love child"... (New York Post)

The objective, western media. The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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Supplemental on the former US general who stated publicly "we need to start killing Russians" ...

The investigation relates to the following ...

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Responding to the news that the Russian Investigative Committee has opened a criminal probe into his statements on charges of public calls for starting an aggressive war made in the media, and that his remarks violated article 20 of the United Nations’ International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights that bans any propaganda of war and instigation of discrimination, hatred or violence, Scales shrugged it off by branding it “a Russian form of war.”

“It’s the Russia version of the First Amendment – five years in prison if you say something that makes [Russian President] Vladimir Putin angry,” Scales told Fox News.

Do they really watch FoxNews in Russia?  yup.

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Kremlin insiders report that Putin's disappearance is due to his binge-watching Season 3 of House of Cards to find out how Russian President Victor Petrov deals w that sleazy sociopath Frank Underwood .

aha! The truth at last!

 

 

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Crimea: under a Reign of Terror, says Victoria Nuland.

 

uh, maybe not. Sure, some aren't happy, and minority rights could stand some improvements, (as they could in Ukraine!) but things are, well, peaceful.

Reign of Terror? Not so much.

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Truth is Our Country  -  by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/03/15/truth-country-paul-craig-robe...

"Today there is a massive propaganda campaign against the Russian government. The incessant flow of disinformation from Washington and the media has destroyed the trust between nuclear powers that President Reagan and President Gorbachev worked so hard to create. According to polls 62% of the US population now regards Russia as the main threat.

I conclude my remarks with the observation that there can be no greater media failure than to bring back the spectre of nuclear war..."

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Some of the idiotic, unadulterated propaganda in Western MSM over the last week or so ...

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Newsweek - ‘Putin Involved in Drug Smuggling Ring’, Says Ex-KGB Officer

TIME – “Kremlin Critics Fear Political ‘Hit List’ as Putin Drops Out of Sight”

Bloomberg View - Putin Disappears Like a Dictator

Forbes – “Can Putin's Absence Indicate A Palace Coup In Moscow?”

Chicago Tribune - Putin's disappearance implies a Russian dictatorship

The Fiscal Times – “With Putin Still Missing, Things Get Weird in Russia”

The Inquisitr – “Vladimir Putin Ousted In Silent Coup, Reports Say, As Mystery Over Russian Strongman Continues”

The Blaze – “Expert: Vladimir Putin’s Disappearance Could Mean Russia’s Undergoing a Coup”

 

Russia Insider wrote:
The satirical and humorous aspects of this are fun, even fruitful looked at objectively, but the underlying problem with today’s press is no laughing matter. Trusted media we once could depend on for news that helped us make good decisions, it’s been morphed into tabloid journalism and corporate advertising to pass for news. Vested interests abound, which would not be a problem in a transparent world. What I am saying here is, misleading purposefully for whatever reason, this is not freedom of the press – it is propaganda pure and simple.

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NATO War Propaganda: A Danger to World Peace  -  by Christopher Black

http://journal-neo.org/2015/03/13/nato-war-propaganda-a-danger-to-world-...

"The constant propaganda offensive aimed at Russia is accelerating..."

 

Statement By the Prime Minister of Canada One Year After the Crimean 'Referendum' and Russian Annexation of Crimea

http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2015/03/18/statement-prime-minister-canada-one-...

"...Canada will not forget Vladimir Putin's reckless actions on Ukraine..."

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CNN Is Beating The Drums of War  -  by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/03/15/402015/CNN-prepares-Americans-f...

"...The threat issues from Washington and arises from the demonization of Russia and its leadership. Washington's propaganda, spread by the presstitutes, is the most irresponsible act in human history...."

 

 

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EU Gears Up For Propaganda War With Russia

http://news.yahoo.com/eu-gears-propaganda-war-russia-171512469.html

"The European Union is set to launch a first operation in a new propaganda war with Russia within days of EU leaders giving formal approval to the campaign at a summit on Thursday. Officials told Reuters that a dozen public relations and communications experts would start work by the end of March in Brussels with a brief to counter what the EU says is deliberate misinformation coordinated by the Kremlin over Moscow's role and aims in Ukraine and elsewhere in Europe.

It is the first stage of a plan that leaders want EU foreign policy chief Frederica Mogherini to finalize by June, which may include efforts to produce and share Russian language broadcast programming, notably for ethnic Russians in ex-Soviet states..."

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'Putin is Behaving Like A Terrorist': Cabinet Minister's Speech on Ukraine Sparks Social Media Battle With Russia (and vid)

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/25/chris-alexander-vladimir-putin-s...

So glad Chris Alexander's little fascist rant is getting some well-deserved attention. Former ambassador to Afghanistan too. A nasty piece of work. Although, in truth his sentiments are not dissimilar to those openly avowed by NDP types as well, not to mention people here...

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SNL even gets into the torrent of endless Russophobia.

This bizarro-world propaganda is what passes for humour in the USA (and Canada).

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P Grenier wrote:
As a general principle no quotation of Putin’s or of any other prominent Russian official or politician that appears in the Western media can be assumed to be true.  Given the relentlessly hostile anti-Putin and anti-Russian agenda that now dominates Western commentary, any quotation is almost certain to be distorted either through mistranslation or by being taken out of context.

The situation is now so bad that even someone as senior as the former President of the European Commission will deliberately misquote words Putin told him in private conversation if he thinks he can get away with it.  Recently it has become clear that some quotes attributed to Putin have actually been invented by his Western critics.

What this article shows is that this process now extends not just to living Russians like Putin, but to Russian intellectuals who are long dead.  It seems the words of any Russian, living or dead,  are now fair game for those in the West who want to convince others that Russia poses a threat to the West.

This is a very sinister development, which makes (and which is intended to make) an understanding with Russia all but impossible.

Demonising Putin's Favourite Philosophers

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ikosmos wrote:

SNL even gets into the torrent of endless Russophobia.

This bizarro-world propaganda is what passes for humour in the USA (and Canada).

"This video has been removed by the user." 

So what was it about? I mean, I know it wasn't funny, this being SNL, but can you give us the gist? 

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The gist: Russians and especially their President, are evil idiots that couldn't find their asses with both hands. A stereotypical rural babooshka invites the viewers to urinate on her. After all, she's so dumb. Etc.

 

Every once in a while I imagine that I'm missing something or great humour at SNL and then I see this sort of thing and remember. "oh yeah. It's crap now."

It's crap now. Never mind the Russophobia.

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Russia Today banned on YouTube, Google gives no comment

"Ah, ah, it's just a technical issue. Yes, we realize that RT has a set a world record with 2 billion hits. "

Western Hypocrisy, Social Media Manipulation

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No doubt, I am labeled a “Kremlin troll” by those who disagree with me, and typically this is followed by accusations that I’m paid to make pro-Kremlin posts. I’m actually an American citizen. Apparently, if you don’t think that the US has the right to go charging around the world like a bull in a china shop, risking nuclear war over the vice president’s right to have his son Hunter Biden be on the largest gas company in Ukraine, ready to plunder Ukraine of over 9 trillion in natural resources, then that makes you a Kremlin troll?

This seems to be the latest. Because the Western MEGAPHONE is being challenged by alternative media, the volume is getting turned WAY up. Everyone who disagrees with the stream of Russophobic vomit coming from Western MSM is a Russian troll. RT, with its 2 billion hits, is "accidently" banned from YouTube. And so on.

 

More on the RUssian "troll army":

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The United States, as well as western media, accuses Russia of employing an army of trolls to engage with social media, in order to influence public opinion. In case you missed it, here are some examples:

The author of the piece seems to focus more on the duplicity or hypocrisy of the whole "Russian troll" argument.

"Now, I’m not going to claim that Russia doesn’t do this. They’d be stupid not to. Russia cares about how it is perceived in the world. For crying out loud, they spent 42 billion dollars on the Sochi winter Olympics. They’re going to spend even more on the upcoming World Cup in 2018. The United States has declared economic war on Russia, enforcing sanctions and bullying / browbeating / humiliating / threatening regime change, etc., to any country who doesn’t go along with it. Through its control of western media, the US has engaged in a major propaganda war against Russia. Why wouldn’t Russia come forward to make its own case?

Russia is majorly criticized for giving its own point of view.

 

What I know is that when the Evil US Empire, and its chorus of useful idiots, makes allegations about the most recent "enemy" or "threat to the national security of the USA" then you can bet dollars to donuts that that is exactly what the Empire is itself doing.

Count on it.

 

 

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Follow up on that last claim about the US Empire, its vassal states,  and the information warfare:

 

 

1. UK Hires 1500 Soldiers to Spread Positive Propaganda on Social Websites

2. CIA Manipulates Social Media - The Russian "threat" etc.

 

and so on.

 

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In the real world, not alternative reality, here is RT Crosstalk on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPfsW6TG2oY

Had to sit through an ad for a German chocolate maker first. I wonder what evil CIA plot was responsible for that one.

(edit)

and on Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/domain/rt.com/

Amazing how they can make it pop up in order to make it appear that they aren't banned when they actually are. The depth and breadth of the conspiracy know no bounds.

 

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6079_Smith_W wrote:
Amazing how they can make it pop up in order to make it appear that they aren't banned when they actually are. The depth and breadth of the conspiracy know no bounds.

I realize that you're unlikely to read anything that you think you may disagree with, but the article actually notes that the temporary silencing of RT (on YouTube, on Reddit, etc.) was not properly explained by those organizations.

And that's the point. Why were they silenced? Will it happen again? etc.

Neither is it the first time. The same thing happened, on the very same day, for RT one or two years ago.

So pay attention, OK?

6079_Smith_W

I was paying attention, and there was no ban.

Or perhaps  I should also claim fraud and capitalist conspiracy every sunday when I can't get access to my bank account for half an hour.

 

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Cold War 2.0  -  by William Blum

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/03/cold-war-2-0/

"As cynical as I've been for years about the American mainstream media's treatement of ODE (Officially Designated Enemies), current news coverage of Russia exceeds my worst expectations.

I'm astonished every day at the obvious disregard of any kind of objectivity or fairness concerning Russia.

Perhaps the most important example of this bias is the failure to remind their audience that the US and NATO have surrounded Russia - with Washington's coup in Ukraine as the latest example - and that Moscow, for some odd reason, feels threatened by this.

'Why did you place your country in the middle of our bases?'

 

NATO Is Building Up For War

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/03/nato-is-building-up-for-war/

"The rising swell of anti-Russian propaganda.."

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An Open Letter To Peter Mansbridge and the CBC News  -  by Jim Miles

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_69776.shtml

"It is a very short commercial but it speaks volumes about Canada's supposedly leading news channel. In its 15 seconds, Peter Mansbrige's voice over says, ' I don't make the news, I report it and at the end of the day if we've affected one person, one policy, that's not a win, that is the news.'

Yes, you do make the news. You make it by editing information...and in some cases it is a simple matter of not using a fact, in order to build a bias. Let me provide some recent examples...

I have mentioned previously how Canada's news - in particular reference to the CBC - is biased as well as wrong when it comes to the situation in the Ukraine. The CBC does not give the background to the Maidan protests, and how they were manipulated by the US with covert operations guided by assistant secretary of state Victoria 'F**k the EU' (Nuland).

Nor are they using 'facts' when they say that Russia is the aggressor in the Eastern regions, when it was the Kiev neo-Nazis that attacked in order to get rid of the Russian population in the east. Is Russia involved? Certainly, but only after the US started and continues to aggravate the situation in the Ukraine.

One of the bigger Mansbridge lies within the story were the repeated statements about the 'rest of the world' and the 'international response'..In 'fact', the majority of ' the rest of the world' which includes China, India, the Philippines, most of Africa, most of Latin America, did not buy into the manufactured story about Russian aggression getting ready to attack Ukraine and Europe.

That is simply fear factor fodder for the domestic masses..."

Rev Pesky

6079_Smith_W wrote:

I was paying attention, and there was no ban.

Or perhaps  I should also claim fraud and capitalist conspiracy every sunday when I can't get access to my bank account for half an hour.

If it was only your bank account that was inaccessible, you might be a little less sanguine about the reason for the loss of access.

Mr. Magoo

That's pretty much "Counter-Propaganda 101":  make sure your opponent's message is only accessible 364 days of the year.

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The Russian Trolls Are Coming! The Russian Trolls Are Coming!

Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

The article notes that the most recent edition of the Russian troll story (it isn't new; that's the first point) comes from - wait for it - Radio Free Europe. Yup. That institution set up and run by the CIA during Cold War 1.0.

But wait, there's more. It turns out this story has had more lives than you've had hot dinners. lol. Talk about media amnesia.

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It’s the trolling story that keeps on giving, with all the regularity of a herpes outbreak, but with no memory to go with it, because each time this Internet Research Agency story is reported, it’s more shocking than the last time.

There's a handy little history, noting various times this story has been breathlessly re-gurgitated, with links to substantiate.

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Supplemental: fighting back.

Undermining Independent Media: How to Beat the “Internet Trolls”

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In order to beat Internet trolls, you have to know their strategies.

Below are 17 common games played by trolls to disrupt our power to learn, inform, and organize on the web …

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Postscript: Over a number of years, we’ve found that the most effective way to fight disruption and disinformation is to link to a post such as this one which rounds up disruption techniques, and then to cite the disinfo technique you think is being used.

Specifically, we’ve found the following format to be highly effective in educating people in a non-confrontational manner about which game the troll is playing:

Good Number 1!

Or simply:

#7

(include the link so people can see what you’re referring to.)

The reason this is effective is that other readers will learn about the specific disruption tactic being used … in context, like seeing wildlife while holding a wildlife guide, so that one learns what it looks like “in the field”. At the same time, you come across as humorous and light-hearted instead of heavy-handed or overly-intense.

Try it … It works.

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There are smears, and then there are things a bit more solid, like catching trolls in the act, pretending to be people who they are not.

There was footage last spring of one woman who popped up in Crimea and Kharkiv pretending to be different people.

And this guy:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/04/12/russian-tv-ca...

 

quizzical

thought of this thread when i heard this morning "it is uncertain who helped the canadians get out of yemini...after hearing on the late news last night it was the russians who helped them.

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What should they have done, checked passports to see who was and wasn't allowed on board? There is still cooperation between Russian agencies and the Russian government and other countries on certain issues. They also gave some astronauts a lift to the space station on a Soyuz a couple of weeks ago.

What that has to do with legitimate criticism, or attempts like those in this thread to inflame division, I don't know.

 

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6079_Smith_W wrote:
What that has to do with legitimate criticism, or attempts like those in this thread to inflame division, I don't know.

 

What it has to do with Russia is that Russia is so sick of the bullshit that one of their public media bigshots noted the following:

"Heck, if the Americans don't want to rely on Russia to get to the Space Station, let the losers use a trampoline to get up there. "

bwa ha ha. Damn, that's funny.

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The Toronto Symphony Orchestra Silences Valentina Lisitsa’s Music

This is how bad the pathological Russophobia is getting. The TSO banned a world class performer for her [well known] political views ... and even tried to renege on their contract with her ... until her own lawyers boxed their ears. 

Censorship. In Canada. That's what stinking Russophobia is bringing to our country. An attack on our freedoms.

 

 

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 and even tried to renege on their contract with her ... until her own lawyers boxed their ears. 

Spamming a bunch of threads again?

As I said in the thread on this actual topic, no one has said that. There has been nothing posted in any article saying that or offering evidence. What is your source?

 

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6079_Smith_W wrote:

ikosmos wrote:
...and even tried to renege on their contract with her ... until her own lawyers boxed their ears.

As I said in the thread on this actual topic, no one has said that. There has been nothing posted in any article saying that or offering evidence. What is your source?

LINK below

The link is there, but you actually have to READ the story.

Actually, I notice that you are following me around and spamming my comments. You should look in the mirror.

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Despite being provided with a substantive legal response on the merits of these allegations, the TSO has since mustered neither a single sentence in support of its accusations, nor a single word of apology. It was only after the legal opinion supplied by Valentina underscored that the TSO could not unilaterally dissolve the contract that the TSO’s counsel clarified that all her fees would be paid. To all appearances, the TSO seemed to believe that it could not only silence Valentina’s music, but also renege on its contractual obligations and thus walk away from their commitments.

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One comment on social media kinda sums it up:

Even in the coldest part of the Cold War westerners managed to enjoy visits of the Bolshoi Ballet.

Now, with the new Russophobic political correctness, even the arts are not immune  to the McCarthyite bellowing.

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Nowhere in that paragraph does it say that the TSO tried to renege on their contract. And in any case there is no source.

 

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Repeated falsehoods are still falsehoods.

Are you going to spam all of my comments? You do realize that babble has policies about this sort of conduct?

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You are free to contact the mods about that. This is an open forum, ikosmos.

There is no evidence and no claim, other than from you, that the TSO tried to break their contract. Certainly the artist did not say so.

bekayne

ikosmos wrote:

One comment on social media kinda sums it up:

Even in the coldest part of the Cold War westerners managed to enjoy visits of the Bolshoi Ballet.

Now, with the new Russophobic political correctness, even the arts are not immune  to the McCarthyite bellowing.

They still do

http://www.bolshoi.ru/en/about/press/articles/

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6079_Smith_W wrote:

You are free to contact the mods about that. This is an open forum, ikosmos.

There is no evidence and no claim, other than from you, that the TSO tried to break their contract. Certainly the artist did not say so.

Your claim is a falsehood. I've already provided half a dozen times the exact quote from the article in which the artist was interviewed and her letter re-published.

6079_Smith_W

Again, ikosmos, nowhere in the article, and certainly not in that paragraph, does it say that the TSO made an attempt to renege on the contract.

Lisitsa did not make that claim either.

I'm quite aware that the article is worded in a way to make readers think the TSO did if they don't read closely enough, but Slavyangrad doesn't make an accusation because there is no evidence (and someone would likely get sued if they had), and my guess is that it is a made up smear like the hundreds of other smears and half-truths on that site.

Again, if you can find one sentence saying that the TSO tried to break their contract you might have some basis for your claim - though it would still need a source. But there is nothing like that there. No one said it except you. You think different? Then show me what you base your claim on.

 

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Who was it who said that people will believe a lie if it is repeated enough times? Oh yeah. Goebbels.

Moving on.

The West Throws a Temper Tantrum: Putin trolls: another jejune NATO fantasy!

Patrick Armstrong has been writing first class reports on Russia for quite a long time now. He also documents everything that he writes, which makes his contributions absolute gold.

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Mark Ames has brilliantly tracked down the Kremlin troll story and shown that it is the same story over and over again, word for word, time after time. He has traced it as far back as 2013 and, in his search, he kept tripping over RFE/RL which proudly states that it "provide[s] what many people cannot get locally: uncensored news, responsible discussion, and open debate." Or, alternatively, given the fact that it is fully funded by the US government, all the news that Washington wants you to hear. So, not, perhaps, a source that can be fully trusted on this particular subject.

There's a nice hierarchy of disagreement in the article.

 

A really key point here is that this Russian troll army is essentially a re-gurgitated Radio Free Europe (CIA founded front)  story.

Another key point here is that good arguments have to be addressed, not simply rejected with responding to tone (Babbler Smith in the censorship of the world class pianist by the TSO stormtroopers), repeating the same unsubstantiated claim, etc.

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In short, ladies and gentlemen, the Putin-Troll-Army story is nonsense. Real trollery is an irritation and no more. Actual argument has to be answered on its own merits. And the Western troll armies – sorry, fighting lies with truth – would, if they ever get off the ground, be equally pointless.

The Western fantasy of a mighty Putin Troll army ruining A Noble Effort to Spread Truth and Democratically Valid Explanations is yet more evidence that the Party Line knows it is losing its audience. Whingeing on about Putin's troll army and closing comments sections is the equivalent of a temper tantrum, hands over ears, screaming "I can't hear you!".

Lies work for a while – quite a long time – but, eventually, reality bites. On its own. It wasn't a building-full of people in St Petersburg typing "Putin ist ein Genie, Du bist ein Idiot" over and over again that made the German leadership see General Breedlove's statements as "dangerous propaganda" any more than "Putin's a genius and you are an idiot" made the editors at The Guardian feel their heads explode.

QED.

 

Is that the sound of heads exploding?

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"Accusing Russia is now a sport," says aid to Russian President Vladimir Putin. "But what’s most important is that they aren’t looking for any submarines in the Potomac River like has been seen in other countries, he added ironically, apparently referring to the Swedish hunt for an alleged Russian submarine in October 2014.

ha ha ha ha. It's good to have a sense of humour about the idiotic and feverish Russophobia emating, like smelly farts, from the general direction of The White House.

The New Sport of Accusing Russia.

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"You always know you’re winning when the other side feels like it has to change the rules."

Interesting piece on the Kremlin Troll Army Myth and so on.

lagatta

"We should recognize that there are other imperialisms”: A Marxist dissident explains what the left gets wrong about Russia

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/06/we_should_recognize_that_there_are_other...

 

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Yeah I read that piece. It makes me think of the following quote ...

Georgi Plekhanov wrote:
"The dialectics of history," Lenin wrote, "were such that the theoretical victory of Marxism compelled its enemies to disguise themselves as Marxists." Marxism had become the vogue ... [I]t was disputed and criticized; "concessions" were demanded of it; there were attempts to blend it with liberalism and with various trends ...

Plus ça change...

lagatta

Bullshit. There is no reason to support either Wall Street or the Kremlin. There is no more USSR; there is no more social progress such as free healthcare or education, or the right to employment, to defend there (while speaking out against repression).

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A Marxist dissident? Yeah right. Pull the other one.

lagatta

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Shortform for "pull the other one, it has bells on." I hope ikosmos is talking about his/her feet.

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