Pro-Zionist Media Bias II

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Pro-Zionist Media Bias II

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If you don’t agree that Israel is a moral exemplar and light to the world, “the only democracy in the Middle East” just attending reasonably to its security needs against a world that is (for no good reason) hostile to itself, you can be hounded, harrassed, intimidated, discredited, denied tenure, fired.  Helen was fired.  That’s the real outrage here.

“So we waited. And of course, during the waiting of it, the flotilla happened.” Yes. A 19 year old Turkish-American boy (among nine others) was shot to death at close range in the head and back in international waters by Israeli hijackers wo’ve subsequently claimed that that their victims wanted to “lynch” them. They effectively conveyed the message: “Don’t mess with Israel.”  And then 89 year old Helen got ambushed (lynched?) by this innocent-looking kid on the street.

The message? Shut up, you critics of Israel, you terrorists, you anti-Semites!

The Ambush of Helen Thomas

Ghislaine

Thomas wasn't fired for criticizing Israel - she said that all Jewish people in Palestine/Israel should go "home" to Germany, Poland and America. 

That is an indefensible statement to most people and is very different from criticizing the actions of the current Israeli government and the IDF. 

remind remind's picture

Why is it indefensible?

You know don't you, that Britian  and France, and many other countries, used to occupy other countries and claim them as their own, until finally they had to admit their empires were collapsing and their citizens all had to go back home or elsewhere in the world?

...peoples from all those countries Thomas noted are occupying another people's lands, and it has only been approx. 60 years, in the case of the Dutch, French, Spanish, and British  they had sometimes  been occupiers for 100's of years.

Why on earth would these people have more rights to be occupiers than other peoples?

 

Having said that how are you feeling, and good to see you ghislaine.

 

This with Helen Thomas is certainly a piss off....and last night was the last night I will ever watch the Daily Show...

al-Qa'bong

I also saw the Daily Show last night.  Lots of time was given to Helen Thomas.  To the Israeli death squad's attack on the aid flotilla?  Not so much.

The Angry Arab has this to say about the hypocritical reaction to Thomas' comment:

 

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Regarding her comments: I have lived in the US since 1983, and I regularly hear American Zionists calling for the expulsion of Palestinians and their distribution around Arab countries far from Israel. It is a standard Zionist line. What is the difference?

 

Come to think of it, Stockholm, who was so vocal about Thomas in the old thread, has said the same thing on babble - he's all in favour of Palestinians being moved to other Arab countries because they're all the same.

Stockholm

I don't think ANYONE should be expelled anywhere and the comparison with British and French and Spanish colonies make no sense either. The Spanish empire in South America came to an end in the early 19th century - I don't hear anyone demanding that all 300 million people in the Americas who are of Spanish descent should be put on a boat back to Spain. I also wonder how many people on bable who are of anything other than First Nations descent plan to set an example by leaving Canada and going back to the countries their ancestors came from.

BTW: Its interesting that Helen Thomas said that Israelis should all go back to Germany or Poland or the US - what about the majority of Israeli Jews who are descended from people who were expelled from Arab countries like Iraq and Yemen etc...in the 50s?

al-Qa'bong

So your views on Palestinians moving to other Arab countries have changed?

Ghislaine

remind wrote:

Why is it indefensible?

You know don't you, that Britian  and France, and many other countries, used to occupy other countries and claim them as their own, until finally they had to admit their empires were collapsing and their citizens all had to go back home or elsewhere in the world?

...peoples from all those countries Thomas noted are occupying another people's lands, and it has only been approx. 60 years, in the case of the Dutch, French, Spanish, and British  they had sometimes  been occupiers for 100's of years.

Why on earth would these people have more rights to be occupiers than other peoples?

 

Having said that how are you feeling, and good to see you ghislaine.

 

This with Helen Thomas is certainly a piss off....and last night was the last night I will ever watch the Daily Show...

Personally I think a peaceful solution to the conflict will not involve removing 6 million people based solely on their religion against their will.  There needs to be a one or two state solution where Palestinians' rights are recognized. 

Canada was colonized and the British, French, etc. have not left. It is not feasible for us to leave. It is also not feasible for us to continue to deny human rights to FN people here. 

I am feeling good - haven't been posting much as I have a brand new baby, who is taking up most of my time!

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I know you have a brand new babby, was being delicate about asking you how it was going, just in case something had gone wrong....

 

al-Qa'bong

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Personally I think a peaceful solution to the conflict will not involve removing 6 million people based solely on their religion against their will.

 

That's two of you now who have said here that opposition to Israelis is based "solely on their religion." It's not about religion; it's about invasion, dispossession and occupation.

 

Again I'll ask, were critics of the Crusaders antisemites?

 

 

remind remind's picture

al-Qa'bong wrote:
That's two of you now who have said here that opposition to Israelis is based "solely on their religion." It's not about religion; it's about invasion, dispossession and occupation.

Exactly and thank you for indicating succinctly, what I had stated above...

 

No Yards No Yards's picture

Stockholm wrote:

BTW: Its interesting that Helen Thomas said that Israelis should all go back to Germany or Poland or the US - what about the majority of Israeli Jews who are descended from people who were expelled from Arab countries like Iraq and Yemen etc...in the 50s?

They should be allowed to stay in Israel or return to the countries they were expelled from ... just as the Palestinians who were expelled from Palestine should be allowed to stay where they were forced to move to after being expelled, or return to the home they were expelled from.

Unfortunately, seeing as we have racist tyrants in control on both sides preventing the return of the expelled, that's not likely to happen ... unless of course like my mother used to tell me when I was trying to justify my actions based on the actions of someone else, one of those racist tyrants decides to jump off a bridge, then of course the other racist tyrant will also have to jump off a bridge.

Polunatic2

An interesting read. 
In Defense of Helen Thomas - On Apologizing to Apologists - Paul Jay - Canada.com

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 Thomas was not talking about Jews that lived in the region from Roman times. If she had been given more of a chance to explain herself, rather than the 30-second sound bite traveling around the web, she might have made it clear that she also wasn't referring to the thousands of Jews who lived in Palestine prior to 1948...

What Thomas clearly did say she was talking about was Jews that had come from Germany, Poland and America. Now it's likely that most of the Jewish refugees that came to Palestine from Europe just after the War, did so not because they "belong to the land of Israel", but due to fact that the American, Canadian and British governments wouldn't drop their anti-Jewish quotas even after the horrors of the genocide were fully exposed (let's talk about some real anti-Semites)...

As is well known, this state was created in the process of expelling thousands of Palestinians from their lands, people who had nothing to do with the European genocide against the Jews. You cannot say the same about the Anglo-American countries that for much of the '30s were quite happy to equip Hitler with cars and machinery. Quite content to shut their mouths as Hitler began an ethnic cleansing that would end in barbaric genocide....

In the case of the Palestinians, what Israel needs to do has been made very clear in UN resolutions and in the demands of the Palestinians. In spite of the illegal blockade of Gaza, almost no one, including the Hamas representative I interviewed a few weeks ago, says the Jews have to get out. Ok there are some that say it, people get very angry after 62 years in a refugee camp, but what most Palestinians want is to live as equals with Jews in a truly democratic state.

 

milo204

While it is interesting that helens comments weren't causing an uproar at the time they were said and were only used after the fact to vilify her, nonetheless her comments are not anything i would support, not to mention they do a disservice to all those trying to fight for palestinian rights in the face of an israeli pr campaign that says everyone who opposes israel's actions is an anti-semite.

i can't help but lump her "go back to where you came from" remarks in the same bag as all the others.

al-Qa'bong

I don't think Ms. Thomas meant what she said anyway, even though it is remarkable that she'd say such things in Raptureville.

Ghislaine

al-Qa'bong wrote:

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Personally I think a peaceful solution to the conflict will not involve removing 6 million people based solely on their religion against their will.

 

That's two of you now who have said here that opposition to Israelis is based "solely on their religion." It's not about religion; it's about invasion, dispossession and occupation.

 

Again I'll ask, were critics of the Crusaders antisemites?

 

 

I never said opposition to Israelis was based solely on their religion. I said that doing what Helen Thomas advocated (she specifically said "Jews" in her comment btw - not Israelis) will involve forcibly removing 6 million people from the region. The people moved will be Jewish people only - according to those advocating this "solution". By the way, this all reminds of [url=http://www.rabble.ca/comment/1148455/Cytizen-H-wrote-Does] this [/url] assertion by unionist:

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You're heard of Palestinians who demand that all Israelis leave Israel (I'm not talking about the occupied territories - but all of what is now Israel)?
I haven't. Some call for one state, some for two, none for expulsion of the people they don't like - except, of course, from the West Bank and East Jerusalem and Golan, and of course an end to the aggression and sieges and incursions. The "expel the Jews" or "drive them into the Sea" is the non-existent phoney meme used to drum up Jewish support for the Zionist criminals

Well, there you go. Helen Thomas has called for Israelis to leave the entire area and "go back" to Germany, Poland, America, etc. and some here seem to agree.

 

al-Qa'bong

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I never said opposition to Israelis was based solely on their religion.

 

If so, what do you think, "Personally I think a peaceful solution to the conflict will not involve removing 6 million people based solely on their religion against their will" means?

 

You can't even accurately interpret yourself; how do you expect to appear credible when interpreting anyone else?

 

Ghislaine

al-Qa'bong wrote:

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I never said opposition to Israelis was based solely on their religion.

 

If so, what do you think, "Personally I think a peaceful solution to the conflict will not involve removing 6 million people based solely on their religion against their will" means?

 

You can't even accurately interpret yourself; how do you expect to appear credible when interpreting anyone else?

 

Opposition to Israel's policies is not based solely on religion. Opposition to the current situation of apartheid is a very different thing than calling for the removal of all Jewish people from the region. The removal of certain people would be based on religion. Helen Thomas used the term Jews. 

George Victor

Helen Thomas probably read the diaries of Victor Klemperer, where the German Jew said, soon after Hitler took power, that it was wrong for the Jewish population of Germany to take up land in Palestine and cause dislocation there.  He and his wife compared it to the effect of European emigration on the North American aboriginals.

Her observation that they should return to the countries of their origin came from the lips of an 89-year-old who would have been about 10 years old when Klemperer made that diary entry. The old gal forgot that there are literalists of all shades of opinion and ignorance.

Frustrated Mess Frustrated Mess's picture

I find it fascinating the nine civilians murdered on the high seas is "regrettable", but an off the cuff remark by a woman in her 80s is "reprehensible".  Only in Zionist America (and Canada).

NDPP

107 Israeli Crimes Against Palestinian Journalists

http://www.kawther.info/wpr/2010/06/08/107-israeli-crimes-against-palest...

"Israel perpetrated 107 attacks and violations against Palestinian journalists' rights since the start of 2010.."

"the last attack against Palestinian journalists took place last week, after a number of journalists, among them people from Al Jazeera and Al-Arabiya crews went to Ashdod to cover the crime of piracy by the Israeli commandos. He added that the Israeli police beat up the Palestinian journalists and allowed dozens of armed extremist settlers to assault them and damage their cameras.."

Palestinian anti-Zionist media up against it in klan country

al-Qa'bong

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Opposition to the current situation of apartheid is a very different thing than calling for the removal of all Jewish people from the region.

 

The Helen Thomas affair is significant only insofar as it is a perfect example of both Zionist intimidation of the media and how completely Zionist ideology has penetrated the minds of those in the media.

 

Did Thomas say Jews should be removed from Palestine or merely that they should go back where they came from? If she used the word "remove," I apologise in advance, but I think claiming she called for removal of Jews from Palestine is a sign of successful propaganda, and is a surfacing of the Zionist "Arabs want to drive the Jews into the sea" trope.

Ghislaine

al-Qa'bong wrote:

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Opposition to the current situation of apartheid is a very different thing than calling for the removal of all Jewish people from the region.

 

The Helen Thomas affair is significant only insofar as it is a perfect example of both Zionist intimidation of the media and how completely Zionist ideology has penetrated the minds of those in the media.

 

Did Thomas say Jews should be removed from Palestine or merely that they should go back where they came from? If she used the word "remove," I apologise in advance, but I think claiming she called for removal of Jews from Palestine is a sign of successful propaganda, and is a surfacing of the Zionist "Arabs want to drive the Jews into the sea" trope.

She said that "Jews should go back to where they came from", being Germany, Poland, America. My point was that the majority of Jewish people in the region will not move to these countries willingly, so the obvious outcome of this position is that they would have to be forcibly removed.  I cannot believe her statement is being defended! 

No Yards No Yards's picture

Ghislaine wrote:

She said that "Jews should go back to where they came from", being Germany, Poland, America. My point was that the majority of Jewish people in the region will not move to these countries willingly, so the obvious outcome of this position is that they would have to be forcibly removed.  I cannot believe her statement is being defended! 

How are we suppose to take any criticism of this statement seriously when even when someone suggests that Israel should move back to the 1967 borders it is considered calling for the extermination of the Jews? Hell, suggesting that Israel simply stop expanding the settlements, or let seriously ill Palestinians get to the fucking hospital in a reasonable time is considered by Zionists as Antisemitism?

What she said might be an somewhat inappropriate, but I'm not going to judge the level of inappropriateness based on how Zionists react to it, that's for sure.

Stockholm

Keep on defending Helen Thomas idea of expelling 6 million Isreali Jews and forcibly resettling them in Europe and North America - all you're doing is PROVING the point that Israel's defenders make that there is an anti-semitic agenda underlying a lot of the pro-Palestinian movement.

Everytime that someone defends Thomas's views - champagne corks are being popped at Likud headquarters and you are playing into their hands.

What's so difficult about simply condemning her absurd remarks 100%, restating opposition to any ethnic cleansing or forcible removal of any populations and then moving on. By trying to defend her your only digging a deeper and deeper ditch.

George Victor

Keep on saying that Helen Thomas would seriously want those folks forcibly removed and deported and keep the credibility of this whole bloody discussion at zero level!

Or have you noticed her tendency to slope her right arm in a salute-like gesture when she asked questions - the only really tough question - in the Whiite House over the past few decades?

al-Qa'bong

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Keep on defending Helen Thomas idea of expelling 6 million Isreali Jews and forcibly resettling them in Europe and North America...

She didn't say that, and nobody here is saying that.

Star Spangled C...

al-Qa'bong wrote:

The Helen Thomas affair is significant only insofar as it is a perfect example of both Zionist intimidation of the media and how completely Zionist ideology has penetrated the minds of those in the media.

Did Thomas say Jews should be removed from Palestine or merely that they should go back where they came from? If she used the word "remove," I apologise in advance, but I think claiming she called for removal of Jews from Palestine is a sign of successful propaganda, and is a surfacing of the Zionist "Arabs want to drive the Jews into the sea" trope.

Oh for fuck's sake. No, she didn't specifically say they should be physically expelled. But if someone said that "all Chinese should go HOME to China" everyone would rightfully call it out for the racism that it is - even if they didn't specifially suggest pushing them onto boats against their will. People are allowed to emigrate. Her comments are particularly loathsome given that she knows damn well that 6 million people who DID stay "home" in Poland and Germany were murdered by the Nazis and that those who managed to survive didn't exactly receive a warm "welcome back" party.

For a long-time journalist who one would assume would be quite informed, it also reveals a profound ignoranceof the realities of the Jewish population of Israel such as a) that many Jews in Israel particularly in Jerusalem have had their families living there continuously since long before 1948 or that b) approximately half of the Jewish population of Israel are Sephardic Jews whose "home" was never Germany or Poland but whose families came from places like Iraq from which they were expelled for being Jews.

al-Qa'bong

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For a long-time journalist who one would assume would be quite informed, it also reveals a profound ignoranceof the realities of the Jewish population of Israel...

aurum ex stercore colligere!

This is important.  While your Jewishness and the Jewishness of Israelis is important to you, it's meaningless to Palestinians and their supporters.  Were the followers of Salah-al-Din anti-Catholics?  Obviously not, no more than the Palestinian resistance is antisemitic. 

Religion is irrelevant in the question of Palestine.  Invasion, dispossession and occupation are important, and the Zionists happen to be those who are doing the invading, dispossessing and occupying.

Resistance to them would be the same if they were Hindoos or Shintoists.

Star Spangled C...

Well, the Jewishness of Israelis certainly IS important to many "supporters" of the Palestinians, like Iraq who expelled Jews from their country over opposition to Israel.

But, that's sort of a tangent. I wasn't even talking about the Palestinians, but about a long-time political journalist who should presumably know that most Israeli Jews didn't arrive via Germany

George Victor

And of course she knew that, which is why to take her literally is only the cheapest of excuses to raise the old anti-semitic rant yet again.

p.s.  Bet you haven't read Klemperer, eh?  Or is he, like Bageant, one of those on your library shelf just waiting for the first opportunity?

Unionist

Ghislaine wrote:

She said that "Jews should go back to where they came from" ...

Hi Ghislaine, welcome back - and congratulations!!

Just a small note. That thing you put in quotes? She never said that. In fact, she never uttered the word "Jews" at all. Nor did she use the words "go back to where they came from".

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=447ekAh8AOo]Listen carefully.[/url] And don't repeat rumours. And think about the words "ambush" and "putting words in people's mouths".

Ghislaine

You are right unionist, she never uttered the word Jews - sorry for implying that. The interviewer did say "Jews" in his question and she answered saying they should go back to Germany and Poland. Either way, I think it is offensive. Why can there not be a one-state solution? Or a two-state solution and an end to the occupation? 

al-Qa'bong

And now that that little media distraction is over...

Merowe

This is fucking ridiculous.

The IDF coldbloodedly murders nine activists on the high seas, injures 30 more and kidnaps several hundred foreign nationals - and we're splitting hairs over remarks said in a flash of anger by the great Helen Thomas?

Step back, people. You've been played. I reiterate Al Q's point above, that Jon Stewart had much to say on Ms.Thomas WORDS and absolutely nothing on the original Marmara incident. Mission accomplished: embarrassing-to-Israel headline displaced from top spot and replaced with manufactured titbit about some journalist's remark. Phew! That was awkward for a few days there!

As for Helen Thomas forbidden 'the Emperor has no clothes' remark, it peerlessly displays the level of denial demanded by the western establishment. The fact is Israel IS a settler state, and most of the original settlers came from the countries she indicated. It is still preferencing Jewish immigrants from these states over the displaced indigenous population.

Jon Stewart attacked her remarks with the comment that the Jews left those countries because six million had been murdered there. This comment completely excludes the Palestinians from the discussion. They don't exist, they are invisible, their lives mean nothing in this equation. Germany exterminated its Jews. Palestinians must provide them with a new home. End of discussion.

Just the sort of thinking that drives heroic, tireless, principled journalists to exasperated outbursts.

clandestiny

many years ago, i watched barbara frum, on a cbc news program of some kind, call the Arabs 'ciphers' (nobodies) for opposing israel. The idiot cbc is so bloody politically correct, one would think they would damn such a racist, stupid notion as referring to an entire people (and a semitic people at that) as 'nothings', but then cbc has always been a rightwing stooge org, imho. Maybe it wasn't that bad once, but it has never really considered truth as anything more then a speedbump on the highway of misinfo that it travels (a few years ago, the cbc featured lester pearson, nobel prize winning liar, who was talking about the '56 Hungarian 'revolution' crushed by the 'USSR' (actually, Warsaw Pact) and sounding all outraged and righteous- and the strange thing was the cbc had just that evening had another program about france/britain/israel invasion of Egypt to stop Egypt from seizing Suez canal (a scheme that ended with USSR/USA telling them to get the hell outta there-the canal belonged to Egypt!). The way the cbc could pretend the two events; the cia sponsored effort to put a anti communist regime into Hungary, and the bullyboy antics used against Egypt's Nasser (the Egyptions would have literally destroyed the canal- something plain as day to everybody but the bullies, which explains Eisenhower's common sense...  indeed, the brits totally withdrew ALL their people, thinking the Egyptions coundn't handle the complex operations, but the canal continued to operate, as usual, w/out any problems) he cbc chooses to ignore anything that defies their secret rightwing logic, and it works, because no one ever calls them on it...

 

al-Qa'bong

Helen Thomas Pays for Crossing a Line Others Trample

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By now you’ve heard: pioneering Washington journalist Helen Thomas has, thanks to a viral video interview, been pilloried for offensive comments about Israel and ousted from the press corps’ inner sanctum. Her words were definitely incendiary—Jews should “get the hell out of Palestine” and “go home” to Europe and America. But the reaction suggests that the Rabbilive ambush was just a catalyst for a gathering storm of political enmity. She was after all, one of the few hard-nosed reporters (and women) in the briefing room who ruthlessly challenged the White House on foreign policy issues.

Indeed, for at least the last decade Thomas has separated herself from the cud-chewing herd of White House stenographers who are euphemistically known as a "press corps."  They were likely happy to see her go.

Star Spangled C...

THis guy lost me when he described the questioning of Thomas as an "ambush". Did anyone actually watch the video. The context was that it was a Jewish heritage celebration at the White House (a friend of ours was actually hired to render the White House kitchen kosher and has some pretty cool stories) and the rabbi was asking people for comments. He wasn't confrontational at all. He seemed quite friendly, in fact. Now the rabbi is getting death threats over posting the video.

N.Beltov N.Beltov's picture

Do you mean like the death threats by all the Zionist fanatics against the Palestinian MK who participated in the peaceful flotilla and dared to report the facts? Those were substantiated, of course.

I dont' see any substantiation on your part. Are you making this stuff up?

 

al-Qa'bong

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THis guy lost me when he described the questioning of Thomas as an "ambush".

Yeah suuure.  "That guy" lost you long before you'd ever read the article.

Star Spangled C...

In about a week, he's gotten over 25,000 pieces of hate mail including explicit threats. He's posted it on his site which you can see here http://rabbilive.com/RabbiLIVE/Home.html

Additionally, from CBS News

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/10/politics/main6568282.shtml

"Rabbi Nesenoff said the hate mail has been pouring in.

"As we're talking here, right now, the email are like a ticker tape. It's been like this for a week, going, going, going," Nesenoff said.

Try 25,000 and counting -- messages like:

* "The Jews need to go home just like the filthy illegals that plague America, same (expletive)."

* "I know your type you gentile hating Jew boy. Come and face me turd. I'll smash u under my boot."

* "Hitler was right. Time for you to go back in the oven."

 

Stockholm

Merowe wrote:

As for Helen Thomas forbidden 'the Emperor has no clothes' remark, it peerlessly displays the level of denial demanded by the western establishment. The fact is Israel IS a settler state, and most of the original settlers came from the countries she indicated. It is still preferencing Jewish immigrants from these states over the displaced indigenous population.

Jon Stewart attacked her remarks with the comment that the Jews left those countries because six million had been murdered there. This comment completely excludes the Palestinians from the discussion. They don't exist, they are invisible, their lives mean nothing in this equation. Germany exterminated its Jews. Palestinians must provide them with a new home. End of discussion.

The fact is that her remarks were about MASS EXPULSION of over six million people for no other reason than their religion. If you agree with this then you have to also agree that the entire non-Aboriginal populations of North and South America should all go back to England, France and Spain and Portugal. I wonder how Portugal with a population of 8 million is supposed to accommodate about 200 million Brazilians of Portuguese descent who all have to "go home to Portugal" so that all of  Brazil can be the sole possession of the Yanomano tribe along the Amazon who are about all that's left of the original inhabitants of Brazil.

If Thomas's comments ACTUALLY reflect the hidden agenda of people who are "pro-Palestinian" then Israel is right to fight tooth and nail every step of the way. Hopefully, her vision of a "judenrein" Palestine are NOT reflective of any hidden agenda and we can go back figuring out how Israelis and palestinians can both be accommodated in the land between the Meditterranean and the Jordan river.

I can't believe that we are even debating this. Her remarks are to be condemned period! I don't condemn her as an individual since we are all entitled to go off the deep end sometimes and say things we don't mean. But right now the pathetic sight of people contorting themselves to find a way to defend the indefensible reminds of how all these neo-cons were jumping through hoops to make excuses for Nixon when some recently released White House tapes had him and Billy Graham chatting about how much they hated Jews or neo-cons trying to be apologists for their darling Mel Gibson when he said that Jews caused all the wars in the world etc...

 

Unionist

That "rabbi" is a zero. Why anyone would bother threatening him is a mystery to me.

He's also a provocateur and baiter.

He said: "So you're saying the Jews should go back to Poland and to Germany." The question, itself, was a lie. Helen Thomas had never even mentioned "Jews". She continued her thought, saying "... and America". It's not even clear whether she had heard the word "Jews" from this baiting little ambusher. Her later apology makes it clear that she had misunderstood.

The death threats against this "rabbi" don't make him a good person. Helen Thomas is a journalist of integrity and principle. She didn't need to put words into people's mouths to report on a story. The "rabbi" should apologize. But people with very very small and bigoted souls don't usually have enough confidence to apologize. It could mean a public negation of what little bit of humanity they might have. Not so for Helen Thomas. She towers high above this little man.

Caissa

I watched the video for the first time. (Thanks for the link Unionist.) I need to watch it a few more times and to reflect. It appears on first examination that a fair bit of extrapolation of her comments has taken place in the media.

al-Qa'bong

The fact is that her remarks were about MASS EXPULSION of over six million people for no other reason than their religion. If you agree with this...

 

I didn't bother reading past this nonsense.

 

Two things:

  1. You have a consistently weird definition of "fact."
  2. Nobody here has said he or she agrees with this.