Does the Dalai Lama really have anything Important to Say?

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jas

 

To humour you:

YES, Unionist. The Dalai Lama is a misogynistic, Arab-hating, eugenics-supporting, nuclear-bomb loving double agent who's only pretending to be a humble exiled spiritual leader. You nailed it, as always, Unionist!

Now can we please have a discussion complaining about Cat Stevens and his lack of (or REFUSAL to TAKE??!) any credible position on the tar sands?? I mean, come ON.

And don't even get me started on the Queen... Or Leonard Cohen.

 

Infosaturated

This link http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/buddhism/buddhistethics/abortion... offers a good explanation of buddist views on abortion. 

I don't agree that abortion is murder but as long as the Dalai Lama doesn't interfere with my right to choose or promote laws that would he is entitled to his opinion.

Unionist

jas wrote:

 

To humour you:

YES, Unionist. The Dalai Lama is a misogynistic, Arab-hating, eugenics-supporting, nuclear-bomb loving double agent who's only pretending to be a humble exiled spiritual leader. You nailed it, as always, Unionist!

 

Funny, jas, I quote what he says, and you just keep talking about me. Always. Why don't you read the topic of the thread and see if this Tibetan emperor in fact is wearing any clothes?

Or, we should forgive him his stand on when abortion should be "allowed" because he's a holy man? Or because some people in this thread are just so shocked that anyone would dare to criticize this "SAINT"? And daring to criticize this "SAINT" is exactly what's wrong with THE LEFT today?

Interesting that you mock the notion of criticizing Leonard Cohen as well. In his case, Palestinian civil society has requested that we support their cause by boycotting him. Just imagine, the nerve of those people.

 

Unionist

Infosaturated wrote:

I don't agree that abortion is murder but as long as the Dalai Lama doesn't interfere with my right to choose or promote laws that would he is entitled to his opinion.

Of course he's entitled to his opinion. People are also entitled to harbour racist and supremacist and any other opinions. Likewise, when this very influential and public figure states publicly that abortion is murder but that it should be "allowed" when the foetus is imperfect and some other cases, people are entitled to condemn him for that.

The point of this thread isn't the freedom of conscience of the Dalai Lama. It is to determine whether he has anything important to say. I believe that the non-clownish or platitudinous things he says are, for the most part, reflective of a social conservative and pro-Western ideology whose content is harmful to the rights and freedoms of the ordinary people of this world. And I'm entitled to that opinion, which I have been trying to back up with quotes and facts.

 

Frmrsldr

I think another important question to ask is, "How much influence or impact does what the Dalai Lama (like the Pope) says, have?" "Should it?" "If what the Dalai Lama says, matters - why?"

N.R.KISSED

I actually wrote to the Dalai Lama when he met with Bush in 2007. I just found their email response

 

"I want to acknowledge receipt of your email sent to the Office of His Holiness the Dalai Lama dated 19 October 2007.
 
We appreciate your concerns and thank you for sharing them with us. However, we do not feel that His Holiness's meeting with

President of the United States George Bush is an acceptance of the U.S. administration's present policies.
 
On the one hand, His Holiness regards everyone he meets as a fellow human being, sharing similar experiences,

aspirations and so forth. Politics apart, on a personal human level, His Holiness has found George W. Bush to

be a warm and responsive man who has extended the hand of friendship to him. At the same time, Mr. Bush holds the

office of President of one of the world's leading nations, an office to which he has been democratically elected.

His Holiness repeatedly asserts the importance of dialogue as a means of exchanging views, bringing about change and

solving problems. To engage in dialogue you have to be prepared to meet the other party, so naturally, presented with

the opportunity to meet President of the United States, His Holiness is happy to do so."

Unionist

What did you write to him, NRK?

[url=http://www.tibet.com/NewsRoom/hhdcvisit3.htm]His Holiness the Dalai Lama given America's highest civilian honor[/url]

Quote:
US President George Bush and Congress conferred His Holiness the Dalai Lama with the top US civilian award - the Congressional Gold Medal at an elaborate ceremony in the Rotunda of the U.S. Capitol building yesterday.

George W. Bush, the first sitting U.S. president to appear in public event with His Holiness the Dalai Lama, despite strong objections from China and urged the government in Beijing to welcome the Tibetan spiritual leader back to the country.

The President called His Holiness the Dalai Lama, a "universal symbol of peace and tolerance." [...]

On receiving the top US gold medal, His Holiness said, he was "deeply touched" to receive such a "great honour".

"I believe that this award also sends a powerful message to those individuals who are dedicated to promoting peace," His Holiness said.

Message received.

 

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