Youth For Christ open centre in WInnipeg

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Youth For Christ open centre in WInnipeg

I have heard this monstrosity was coming for a few years now. It has finally opened. And we paid for it.

This editorial pulls no punches, and is well-worth reading.

http://www.thewinnipegreview.com/wp/2012/01/a-cult-comes-to-the-heart-of...

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6079_Smith_W

I suppose the only consolation is that they have set up their dirty little business kittycorner from Thunderbird House. So the choice will be right out in the open for everyone to see.

 

Unionist

Thank Christ we have the NDP to help us distinguish good from evil:

[url=http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/mp-gets-behind-youth-for-christ-c... gets behind Youth for Christ centre[/url]

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Winnipeg Centre MP Pat Martin is now pledging to help the Christian organization he excoriated last week as a "fundamentalist group" build an $11.7-million youth centre in the coming months. [...]

NDP MP Martin condemned public funding for the plan, making now-infamous comments about Youth for Christ's evangelism.

But in the wake of council's decision -- which allows the centre to access $3.2 million in federal infrastructure-stimulus funds -- Martin said he harbours no ill will toward Youth for Christ and wants to help it build a facility that will include a gym, skate park, fitness centre, classroom, climbing wall, dance studio and other amenities.

"Now that it's over, I'm going to do all I can to ensure it's a success," Martin said. "Anything happening in the inner city is better than nothing."

 

jas

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Like candy in the pederast’s pocket, the clubhouse will be used to lure disadvantaged youth for the purpose of indoctrination so Youth For Christ can make the nonsensical, pointless claim that they’ve saved another soul.

It's an outrage.

It was brought up in this thread from a year or so ago.

 

jas

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Nahanni Fontaine, director of justice for the Southern Chiefs Organization, an advocacy group for First Nations people in southern Manitoba, said giving public money to the project would be like contributing to the contemporary version of residential schools under the guise of helping youth.

"[We] saw religion used as an abusive and violating mechanism in which to assimilate aboriginal children into Euro-Canadian mainstream," she said.

"Aboriginal people were assured that these sort of infringing practices and strategic policies would never occur again."

Approving this proposal would just be sanctifying a "more contemporary form of the residential school experience," Fontaine said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2010/02/24/mb-youth-christ-...

 

But that's Winnipeg city council -- and Winnipeg --  for you. Councillors voted 10 - 4 in favour, while 200 people crowded the chambers.

NDPP

More of what a Mohawk acquaintance calls 'healing by kneeling'...

jas

I don't understand what "kneeling" here is referring to, NDPP. but I'm guessing it's meant to have a double meaning, and as such is not all that funny - in the context of this discussion.

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6079_Smith_W wrote:

I have heard this monstrosity was coming for a few years now. It has finally opened. And we paid for it.

This editorial pulls no punches, and is well-worth reading.

http://www.thewinnipegreview.com/wp/2012/01/a-cult-comes-to-the-heart-of...

 

That's a very good article. Of course, the two comments posted in response are all about how great it is that YFC is bringing much needed facilities to inner city youth.

I was shocked that so few railed against funding this operation. Pat Martin started out strong, highlighting that it was offensive to have immigrant and aboriginal children proselytized to in order to access recreational opportunities. But he backtracked super fast and said his major complaint was that so many other recreation and outreach services were being stripped of funding while YFC was getting millions from the city and feds.

Many FN groups tried to fight City Council on this, calling it a Residential School Redux but there was barely a peep from any other group. And CEO from CenterVenture or any other council member who claim they know nothing of YFC's homophobic and bigoted belief system are just willfully blind. It wouldn't surprise me if Vic Toews called Sam Katz and said I can release "Canada Action Plan" $$$$ if you pony up and support the building of YFC's new facility.

Freedom 55

NDPP wrote:

More of what a Mohawk acquaintance calls 'healing by kneeling'...

 

jas wrote:

I don't understand what "kneeling" here is referring to, NDPP.

 

Prayer?

Unionist

Freedom 55 wrote:

NDPP wrote:

More of what a Mohawk acquaintance calls 'healing by kneeling'...

 

jas wrote:

I don't understand what "kneeling" here is referring to, NDPP.

 

Prayer?

Capitulation.

 

NDPP

precisely.

Aristotleded24

YFC Winnipeg really should have looked a couple of hours down the road for guidance. In Winnipeg, the project appears to have gone through with very little communication with the area residents. A few years ago, YFC in Brandon wanted to build an affordable housing project for at-risk young adults, and were closely involved in discussing this with the local community. The project had a great deal of support (minus the usual "we-don't-like-social-services-helping-out-those-kinds-of-people" NIMBY crowd) and ended up going ahead.

jas

Public grants recipient YFC not living up to original promises

According to the article, the business plan had stated YFC

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... wants to move to the Higgins Avenue and Main Street location in order to expand services “that will benefit all youth but especially aboriginal, low-income and high-risk youth.”

Youth for Christ.... said the Centre For Youth Excellence would offer a “safe haven” during after school, weekend and summer hours.

But today,

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The only free drop-in programs are four hours of rock climbing on Tuesday and Thursday and two hours of skateboarding on Wednesday. None of these programs start before 7 p.m. Those limited hours won’t work for the youth in the North End, according to Annetta Armstrong, director of operations at Building Urban Industry through Local Development (BUILD).

quizzical

typical lying "Christians"

Unionist

I don't understand. Where the f*** is born-again true believer [url=http://rabble.ca/babble/national-news/youth-christ-open-centre-winnipeg#... Martin[/url] on this one? Or does he get to condemn it, then praise it, then run for the hills?

It is a source of constant amazement to me that politicians in this society are not held accountable by people - large assemblages of people. One of these days.