Occupy Toronto, part 2

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Peaceful resolution for the St James Library yurt.

At least 3 arrests so far.

clandestiny

i turned on 'city' tv- the one with the guy wearing suspenders- this morning, and heard him say 'everything was 'peaceful' when the cops moved in to crush the resistance to law and order' or whatever...so angrily I called the station and said the police used obvious brute force to remove the Occupy protestors; it's plain thuggery, and a big lie to say it was peaceful! If someone showed YOU (a young lady answered ph, and said absolutely nothing, as if stunned by the criticism!)...showed YOU  a weapon while telling you to move along, you'd think that was wrong, but because it's the wallstreet bullyboys' helpers, you call it 'peaceful? Nonsense....

Also, I have a brilliant idea on how to move things along to the Occupy movement's (we 99 percenters)  benefit. Let's use Proxy' representation, or howver you say it. Example, I give one of the activists my name, phone number  address etc, with sworn statement saying that THAT person 'represents' me on the streets, since i work and too busy/tired to rep myself ...there are tens of thousands, if not millions of supporters of OWS / Toronto etc who can only watch situation from a distance, powerless! If every activist thus represented a large number of citizens/voters, then mister pig would be even more gentle and reasonable to them, and the grinning stooges of fascism (the newsmedia) would be exposed as rightwing fraudsters for supporting the status quo! I betcha there are millions of unrepresented 'activists' who would love to help anyway possible! A good idea also would be to CHARGE a registry fee, say $10, in order to stop mister pig from exploiting the hole in this particular donut ( re false names, black bloc agents etc)....If someone could contact the Occupy movement and suggest making proxy representation using internet and a simple bank acc't (?)....the pig thinks he can kill the movement, and he can/will unless we use trickery that the bastards can't get around....

NDPP

I think your sponsorship/proxy protester idea is a very interesting one clandestiny.  And unlike the ndp they won't vote to bomb Libya without your consent either...

deb93

If someone could contact the Occupy movement and suggest making proxy representation...

Anyone - ie, you clandestiny, can contact Occupy Toronto through their facebook page or website. They have a credit union acct. You can simply contribute and then send them an email with your proxy vote. I wouldn't suggest putting your street address or even phone number on anything that might be public though, as there are right wing crazies out there who might harass you or worse.

clandestiny

Nothing would be public. If ANYTHING i consider, when looking at planet earth, it's the reactionarkies and their sneaky conman tricks used to 'steal candy from the baby' (an electorate is a baby, in that it's very foolish and prone to extremes of emotions, iow an electorate quickly devolves into a brutish mob...that was part of why both Aristotle and Plato, the founding fathers of western political discourse, dismissed everyman democracy as unworkable and a pipedream) who fascinate in that they are, almost to a man, or woman, ignorant crybaby thugs with sissified personalities and vicious morals who rewrite everything after their predestined historical failures becomes obvious, and get away with it thanks to control of pigmedia. A classic example of this is the rightwing sympathy/aiding for fascism leading up to, causing, WW2, and how after war 'West' berlin was located 300 miles inside EAST GERMANY, and no one noticed USSR gave 2/3rd Berlin to west out of goodwill! and soon..) I will send a suggestion to 'Occupy' but ...the idea itself arises from the fact working 5 days week and only using internet week-ends limits any my effectiveness regards activism, and to be honest i don't care anymore about anything but effective activism...i did give cash at the 'logistics' tent, twice, and will glady give more, but, again, i'm nobody and if anything depend upon me, then it's a lost cause....

6079_Smith_W

clandestiny wrote:

A classic example of this is the rightwing sympathy/aiding for fascism leading up to, causing, WW2, and how after war 'West' berlin was located 300 miles inside EAST GERMANY, and no one noticed USSR gave 2/3rd Berlin to west out of goodwill! and soon..)

It wasn't goodwill at all. Do you remember the blockade and the airlift? They did everything they could do short of invasion to bring that city under soviet control.

And that territory was not theirs to give in the first place. The allied powers agreed to separate regions of occupation in Germany and Austria, and in the two capitals, Berlin and Vienna.

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Actually that situation is still not engraved in stone. I remember when Helmut Kohl was chancellor there was a big stink about him not giving absolute recognition to the Oder-Neisse border between Germany and its former territories which are now part of Poland.

 

 

NDPP

Toronto the Good: Killing Us Softly - by David Ker Thompson

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/11/25/killing-us-softly/

"...the financial centers of Toronto still profit from the vast filth of the tar sands to the west, the whole tawdry financial structure is in cahoots with the nation's biggest trading partner to the south. The nation's still an eager-beaver bumboy to the sad cluster fuck that is American military aspiration, and on and on.

Too many reasons to resist, occupy and just say no.

But Occupy Toronto was goodcop'd out of St James Park while 98% of the populace sat and watched, unwilling to lift a hand in their own interests..."

clandestiny

It wasn't goodwill at all. Do you remember the blockade and the airlift? They did everything they could do short of invasion to bring that city under soviet control.

And that territory was not theirs to give in the first place. The allied powers agreed to separate regions of occupation in Germany and Austria, and in the two capitals, Berlin and Vienna.

(edit)

Actually that situation is still not engraved in stone. I remember when Helmut Kohl was chancellor there was a big stink about him not giving absolute recognition to the Oder-Neisse border between Germany and its former territories which are now part of Poland.

 

 

by April 1945 the Red Army was way past Berlin, 300 miles past, and Berlin was totally under Soviet control. Indeed, the Dresden bombing (featured in Vonnegut's 'Slaughterhouse 5') occurred AFTER Soviet troops were already gone by- the city had no military value and its destruction, also see hiroshima/nagasaki -  was a blatant effort by brit/amer fascists to frighten Soviets; which was successful in that the Soviets were unable to disband their vast military and rebuild their shattered country, with its 25 million dead. Some day, hopefully, the crazy human race wakes up to how ruthlessly and easy deftly it was defrauded on a massive scale leading to its own extinction; which will be, obvious to all within 100 years and a moot detail involving nothing in 500 years (though mister pig will decamp for space satelites, probably. The planet earth will die, and the cause is the neverending ability of rightwing fascism and its loudmouth pigmedia to lie about everything that mattered until too late to correct the misunderstandings. The Soviet Union was the revolution, the 'occupy wall street' of its day, only it was also a superpower, thanks to Joseph Stalin, who, despite his flaws, kept the revolution on track despite the  vast energy spent demonising both him and USSR and the revolution... for example, fyi, william shirer blamed nazism on german race characteristics rather then on fascism. in his  'rise/fall 3rd reich'.....the 'berlin wall' was built in 1961, during JFK  time, only 2 years before JFK killed by fascists...the USSR fell 20 years ago, and the true nature of fascism has since emerged in the 'democracies'. In britain a rightwing loudmouth recently called for mass murder of national strikers.... and the 'george dubia bush' institute ...louis freeh, karl rove... harper govmint ...arab spring started with overthrow of saddam... etc, ad nazism