Ontario PC Elizabeth Witmer Resigns, Takes position with WSIB

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adma

Oh, and besides Telegdi hogging the left-energy, one other thing that *may* have suppressed the K-W federal NDP vote in '11 was an independent bid by erstwhile NDP candidate Richard Walsh-Bowers--not in taking votes away (only 174 voted for him, anyway), but in conveying impressions of a party schism...

janfromthebruce

good point adma.

NorthReport

So what's the NDP game plan here?

McGuinty makes trip to newly vacated Kitchener-Waterloo riding

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/05/03/toronto-kitchener...

adma

If not Catherine Fife, would Scott Piatkowski be up to running?

David Young

How much do you want to bet that if the results in Etobicoke Centre are overturned and a federal by-election is called, then McGinty will schedule the Kichener-Waterloo by-election around the same time?

 

Wilf Day

David Young wrote:

How much do you want to bet that if the results in Etobicoke Centre are overturned and a federal by-election is called, then McGuinty will schedule the Kichener-Waterloo by-election around the same time?

Or the week after Etobicoke, on the theory that the Liberals cannot lose that by-election. Which is also a good reason for the Conservatives not to appeal and delay; suck it up and get it over with.

Grandpa_Bill

Brachina wrote:
Dalton's corruption grows more naked for all to see, he's trying to publicly bribe MPPs with much more secure high salary jobs. I've never seen out right bribing of politicians done so publically and without concern. Its like Dalton's contempt for voters is endless. I'm not shocked he'd do this, I'm shocked he'd do it in,a way that is so obviously buying public officials. I'm appalled at his conduct.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1173415--liberals-courting-tory-and-ndp-mpps-to-resign-to-force-more-by-elections

I recall Frank Zappa's lamenting the number of times he and the Mothers overestimated the intelligence of their audience.  Perhaps Dalton, having learned from Frank, is simply intent on not making a similar mistake, i.e. overestimating the integrity of opposition MPs. 

 

janfromthebruce

Wilf Day wrote:

David Young wrote:

How much do you want to bet that if the results in Etobicoke Centre are overturned and a federal by-election is called, then McGuinty will schedule the Kichener-Waterloo by-election around the same time?

Or the week after Etobicoke, on the theory that the Liberals cannot lose that by-election. Which is also a good reason for the Conservatives not to appeal and delay; suck it up and get it over with.

I'm not thinking that the K/W election is a slam dunk for the Liberals nor for the Cons - they are both slimy & with Hudak getting trashed for suggesting selling off hydro electric stuff just reminded voters again why Cons can't be trusted.

mark_alfred

Grandpa_Bill wrote:

Brachina wrote:
Dalton's corruption grows more naked for all to see, he's trying to publicly bribe MPPs with much more secure high salary jobs. I've never seen out right bribing of politicians done so publically and without concern. Its like Dalton's contempt for voters is endless. I'm not shocked he'd do this, I'm shocked he'd do it in,a way that is so obviously buying public officials. I'm appalled at his conduct.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1173415--liberals-courting-tory-and-ndp-mpps-to-resign-to-force-more-by-elections

I recall Frank Zappa's lamenting the number of times he and the Mothers overestimated the intelligence of their audience.  Perhaps Dalton, having learned from Frank, is simply intent on not making a similar mistake, i.e. overestimating the integrity of opposition MPs. 

 

 

Integrity and intelligence are two different things.  One can be intelligent but without integrity, and vice versa.  I suspect too that McGuinty is not a fan of Frank Zappa, though I may be wrong.

adma

mark_alfred wrote:
Integrity and intelligence are two different things.  One can be intelligent but without integrity, and vice versa.  I suspect too that McGuinty is not a fan of Frank Zappa, though I may be wrong.

Of the three major leaders, I can see Hudak as the biggest Zappa fan--well, he comes off as a grinning high school weisenheimer who gets off on Zappa's titty-poopy-joke tunes...

Grandpa_Bill

Brachina wrote:
Dalton's corruption grows more naked for all to see, he's trying to publicly bribe MPPs with much more secure high salary jobs. I've never seen out right bribing of politicians done so publically and without concern. Its like Dalton's contempt for voters is endless. I'm not shocked he'd do this, I'm shocked he'd do it in,a way that is so obviously buying public officials. I'm appalled at his conduct. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1173415--liberals-co... If I was one of the opposition leaders I'd make it clear that any MPP that accepts such an,offer would be fired from the post, charged wiith corruption, forced to pay back all money gained from that position.  (emphasis GB)

Dalton's trying to publicly bribe MPPs?  Surely he has succeeded.  The reason for this thread is the fact that Elizabeth took the job.

Dalton has done us the favour of exposing corruption, not only in his government, but also in the opposition.  We don't need to make a saint out of her to see the devil in him.

 

Debater

Wilf Day wrote:

David Young wrote:

How much do you want to bet that if the results in Etobicoke Centre are overturned and a federal by-election is called, then McGuinty will schedule the Kichener-Waterloo by-election around the same time?

Or the week after Etobicoke, on the theory that the Liberals cannot lose that by-election. Which is also a good reason for the Conservatives not to appeal and delay; suck it up and get it over with.

I doubt there will be much connection between the 2 ridings.

For one thing, Harper will delay as long as he can IF he is forced to call a by-election.  Remember, our system gives the ridiculous power to the Prime Minister to wait SIX MONTHS to call one.  As Ed Broadbent has said, by-elections in Canada should be called within 1 month as they are in Britain.  It's not right to leave a riding with no representation for half a year or more.

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