Toronto Centre by-election

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BetterOnTheLeft wrote:

Looks like 4 candidates for the NDP nomination:

Caleb Chapman - Economist & Consultant, LGBTQ
https://twitter.com/TheCChapman

Brian Chang - Former Candidate in 2019, works at SEIU Healthcare, LQBTQ
https://twitter.com/bfchangTO

Walied Khogali Ali - Organizer, ran for City Council in 2018 in TC
https://twitter.com/waleedkhogali

Sebastián Mendoza-Price - Tenant Organizer, LGBTQ
https://twitter.com/sebastianmpndp

The virtual nomination meeting is tomorow night.

I anticipate that the candidate will be Chang or Khogali Ali. 

ctrl190

Brian Chang won the nomination in Toronto Centre.

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Misfit wrote:

If I remember correctly, Bob Rae left the NDP because of the NDP's positions on Palestine and Israel at the time. His wife is Jewish and he adopted the Jewish faith to marry his wife. That's what he said anyway.

NDPP wrote:

Unfortunately he adopted a rather rabidly pro-Israel anti-Palestinian Zionism also. Not that this has ever been a disqualifier from the Canadian liberal-left. Especially the NDP.

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Annamie Paul, New Green Party Leader, Brushes Off Jagmeet Singh Not Offering ‘Leader’s Courtesy'

Quote:
Newly minted Green Party Leader Annamie Paul says she isn’t surprised she won’t receive the same “leader’s courtesy” her party gave to NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh when he was first seeking a seat in Parliament.

“It certainly doesn’t surprise me. I’m a first,” Paul told reporters in Ottawa Monday when asked about how the NDP and other parties will field candidates against her in an upcoming byelection. “And as a first, you’re accustomed to fighting, you’re accustomed to having to overcome every single barrier to get to where you’re trying to go to.”[/quote

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As a leader of a so-called environmentalist pasty, is she ever going to address the media to focus on the environment?  

Her sole media focus has been to erase the NDP platform history, claim the NDP agenda as her own, imagine an injustice by the NDP, tell a Chinese Canadian  NDP candidate not to run in an election race, and cry victimhood because she is a black woman running against a black woman front runner.

When is she actually going to represent her party or do they even stand for anything?

Here is a debate comment she made:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_ATdGAzWU

23:40:00

""If the Liberals and the NDP just swallowed our environmental policies whole; they’ve decided, they’re converted, they’re on board, is there a reason for the Green Party to exist? And I believe, absolutely, that there is a reason for the Green Party to exist. And I have touched upon it already before and it’s all about we’re the ones that proposed those policies that they absorbed, and that happens time and time and time again. Whether you’re talking about the NDP’s new found, and I’m happy, I’m personally very happy, their new found interest in guaranteed liveable income, or the growing consensus around universal pharmacare, or plans for free tuition post secondary education, it is the Greens that have put these into the political discourse. And we do it based on evidence, and we do it without fear. And we do it on behalf of the people of Canada. We are the party that occupies that space and it is unfortunate that we are the only ones and I welcome and invite the other parties to join us there. But, until there is another party that prioritized the people first and the evidence based policy first there will always be a role for the Green Party in Canada."

She is running in a riding where she placed a distant fourth with 7% of the vote. The NDP placed second with 22% of the vote.

So, from the previous post, she says, "And as a first, you’re accustomed to fighting, you’re accustomed to having to overcome every single barrier to get to where you’re trying to go to."

This is not a racial injustice. This is a regular by-election that she decided to run as a fourth place long shot in.
 

She participated in many debates.  She was heavily criticized on this board for her conspicuous absence of specific policies on several key issues except to erase the NDP platform as their idea. The Green Party made up that the NDP running a candidate in the race is an injustice to her. Now she wants the NDP to step aside and subsidize her election chances because she is "a first".

This is disturbing gutter politics on many levels.

nicky

To compound the Green hypocricy Elizabeth May has just been quoted as refusing to give up her seat for Paul to run in a byelection there.

Pondering

As if the Green Party invented basic income. When parties are accused of stealing policy, like the Liberals from the NDP, it's because they are actually in contention to win so "stealing" the policy is a means of taking votes. There is no reason to "steal" Green policy. Nobody was voting Green based on basic income. 

Debater

At Issue discussed this subject last night, and the panel said the same thing that Babble is saying -- the proper procedure is for Elizabeth May to step down so that Anamie Paul can run in her seat.  Green Party segment is from 9:20 - 15:36:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCmpHJhzRM

kropotkin1951

Debater wrote:

At Issue discussed this subject last night, and the panel said the same thing that Babble is saying -- the proper procedure is for Elizabeth May to step down so that Anamie Paul can run in her seat.  Green Party segment is from 9:20 - 15:36:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCmpHJhzRM

Jagmeet promised that he would move permanently to Burnaby from Peel when he ran in the by-election. Not a great cultural change in many ways. I suspect that Annamie might not want to move from the GTA to Salt Spring Island or even the Saanich Peninsula just for travel reasons let alone the cultural change. Mind you the Greens are not going to elect any MP's in Ontario anytime in the near future so if she wants to become an MP she might have to move to one of the coasts.

Mighty Middle

Former Provincial NDP Cabinet Minister Zanana Akande endorses Annamie Paul - urging NDPers in that riding to vote Green

Akande has joined forces with Former Provincial Liberal Cabinet Minister Greg Sorbara and Conservative Senator Hugh Segal - with all three in a united voice to urge their party supporters in the Toronto-Centre riding to vote for Annamie Paul.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2020/10/13/green-party-lead...

Pondering

So all of them think she should be annointed rather than elected by the people. I think the people should have something to say about that. 

nicky

Akande ceratinly doesn’t speak for the NDP. She was a mediocre cabinet minister under Rae in a cabinet of mediocrities. She was so incompetent that Rae removed her.

I don’t think she has been active in the party since, which is 25 years or more.

Ken Burch

nicky wrote:

Akande ceratinly doesn’t speak for the NDP. She was a mediocre cabinet minister under Rae in a cabinet of mediocrities. She was so incompetent that Rae removed her.

I don’t think she has been active in the party since, which is 25 years or more.

None of those "bipartisan" figures are driven by any motivation other than a desire to stick it to the NDP.

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This is the person you're dismissing: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/zanana-akande-ywca-1.4672949

Zanana Akande left the Bob Rae government, saying it had abandoned its principles and its base. She was right. 

nicky

Swallow, Akande became a serious embarrassment to the Rae government.

she ha# not supported the NDP for years however much the Greens dishonestly claim this show a major defection from the NDPto the Greens.

this from Wikipedia:

In 1991, Akande was caught in an apparent conflict of interest situation. In December 1990, Rae announced strict guidelines which prohibited cabinet ministers from owning rental properties which included Akande. However, in February 1991, Rae wrote a private memo which softened the guidelines because he felt that a sell-off of these properties during tough economic times may cause undue hardship to ministers.[10]

On October 10, 1991, Akande resigned as minister due to an accusation of rent-gouging in properties she owned in Toronto. Rae accepted her resignation saying "it would be in a sense, better for everyone, including herself, if this was the way we proceeded."[11] The charges were eventually dismissed in 1993.[12]

On May 4, 1992, the so-called "Yonge Street Riot" occurred in Toronto due to media reports surrounding a celebrated court case in the United States about the beating of Rodney King by police and the ensuing riots in Los Angeles. While the damage along Yonge Street was relatively minor, it was a major event for Toronto.[13] In order to manage the fallout from this episode, Rae appointed Akande as his parliamentary assistant.[12] One of her accomplishments was the creation of the jobsOntario Youth Program which created summer employment for youth from 1991 to 1994.[3]

Akande continued as a parliamentary assistant until August 31, 1994, when she resigned from the Legislature in protest against Rae's handling of the Carlton Masters controversy.[14] Akande was bitter about her time in government. She said "a government must reflect everyone in the province. But this government has compromised its base. I can't identify with this party." She stated that she would never again belong to a political party. After resigning from the government she returned to her former job as school principal.[15]

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Her words "this government has compromised its base. I can't identify with this party" reflect my own view of Bob Rae's NDP. 

Akande by her own admission is not a NDP member. The Greens are distorting the power of that endorsement. But there's no need to shit on Zanana Akande to make this point. I think Bob Rae was the biggest embarrassment in the Bob Rae government, personally. 

That said, if I had a vote in TC, I'd certainly opt for Brian Chang, who is a terrific grassroots organizer and would be a great MP alongside people like Leah Gazan and Matthew Green. 

nicky

I have already voted for Brian.

It is hard to get a fix on what is happening on the ground here in Toronto Centre.

I took my dog Buster for an extended walk through Cabbagetown yesterday, a neighbourhood that used to be strong for the NDP but has lately been aLiberal stronghold through gentrification.

10 signs for Paul, 5 for  Chang, 5 for Ien. No Conservatives. Many fewer signs however than in the general election 

Canvassed by phone by the NDP but not the others, though I am often not home. One leaflet drop fromGreens. Actually only a modest card with little info.

The Star seems to be running up Paul. A couple puff pieces. Reg Cohn has berated NDP for not standing down for her.

The Akande endorsement has received some play in the Star as evincing a big recent defection from the NDP instead of a minor defection 25 years ago.

On the other hand, the NDP is up about five points in most national polls from the last election and the Greens are flat.

I expect a very low turnout with Paul increasing her vote from 7% to maybe 15 but still coming no better  than third. Not much more than conjecture at this point.

Hopefully  she will then move to Saanich Gulf Islands and lose there too.

 

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