Below refers to a discussion on the 'Harper govt. attacks employment equity and affirmative action' thread. I was advised that it should be discussed here, rather than derailing the thread from its original topic. At issue is the over-zealous moderation of this thread, which in my opinion was limiting reasonable debate and over-stepping the terms of Babble's policy. Please see the thread for the back-story...
unless I missed something
It appears you have missed something, shrug. To wit, the babble policy statement (linked to at the top of every page and which both you and Sentinel agreed to when registering for this site). It reads as follows:
babble is NOT intended as a place where the basic and essential values of human rights, feminism, anti-racism, and labour rights are to be debated or refought. Members that join babble who indicate intentions to challenge these rights and principles may be seen as disruptive to the nature of the forum.
Let me get this straight - are you accusing me of going against any of the above? Have I questioned human rights, feminism, anti-racism or labour rights, or challenged these rights in any way? If you are saying that I have done, it is quite an accusation to make, and cannot be substantiated. As you do not know anything about me or my profession, I suggest that you should choose your words more carefully. I agree whole-heartedly with Babble's policy; what I do not agree with is the over-zealous execution of this policy, which seems to me bullying and knee-jerk in its condemnation of people with differing views. I shudder to think of all the left-leaning contributors (but not left-leaning enough for Babble's definition) who have been kicked off of this forum, and were left feeling that leftist ideology is exclusive and afraid of dissenting views. It should be anything but.
Catchfire - "We're not here to discuss everything. We're here to discuss leftist topics from a leftist point of view, in the hopes of extending and enriching leftist thought. For those keeping score, that does not include protecting the privilege of white, able-bodied, heterosexual men (of which I am one)."
Well, I am NOT a white, able-bodied heterosexual man, and I have NOT been defending the rights of white, able-bodied heterosexual men. It seems strange that you, as a white, able-bodied heterosexual man, seem to feel that you should be the spokesperson for all oppressed groups. You do not represent me, and Babble does not represent all leftist thought - you represent a very rigid version of leftist thought, which silences minority voices (and I'm not talking about Sentinel's more mainstream, hegemonic views - I'm talking about my own, which is most certainly leftist, but is feeling oddly threatened and bullied in this forum).
Catchfire - "It's also not up for debate. If you want to debate such elementary first principles, feel free to head to CBC, the Globe and Mail, or the National Post, all of which, sadly, still like the look of the wrong side of history."
This is incredibly elitist, condescending and patronizing. I joined Babble in the hope of being able to interact with people who might approach online debate in a more progressive and informed way than the above news sources. Perhaps I should stick to The Guardian. It's a shame that such an open forum is not available in Canada. The Guardian also has a strict policy to ensure that commentators do not spout hate (this is right and just), but otherwise it does not confine people to a ridiculously small ideological framework that disallows any real debate.
I am truly disappointed by Babble's fear of differing points of view - all in the name of diversity and acceptance, you say? What a joke.