"Sean is trying to depersonalize and intellectualize his objection to my responding to his posts so he can defend his behavior from a supposedly objective perspective."
-- I am guilty by making it not personal so that it could be personal because I am guilty ....
"The threads in which I am being asked not to respond to Sean include the thread on diversity, an ironic choice"
-- Because you want to make this about gender?
"This is a relatively short interchange that just began so is easy to dissect:
http://rabble.ca/babble/canadian-politics/justin-trudeau-campaign-2015?page=10... Read posts 102 to 111… I ask you, babblers, how should I react to this behavior? Should I report it as harassment?"
Hey babblers shall we have a lynching -- did what I said in post 102 justify this?
"Sean, you keep threatening to leave the board due to my presence."
No, your behaviour and the blessing that behaviour is getting from the mods. Happy to ignore you if you will return the favour. No more limiting for you than it would be for me.
"There are many accusations of trolling and baiting on the site suggesting that the posters who “get personal” are driven to it by new(er) posters who can rightfully be suspected as being agent provocateurs of some sort."
I never got personal with you. Ever.
"Just stay on topic and don't get personal"
And accept to be moderated by Pondering who decides what is personal (anything that disagrees with her) and what is on topic (any post she agrees with). You accused me of being off topic when I was speaking to the same thing that the previous 7/10 posts covered and was introduced to the thread by you. But off topic = what Pondering does not agree with.
"If the response is personal, or baiting, report it."
I don't expect impartiality from the mods. Neither do you which is why you continue this.
I hear the demands from you:
- limit myself to threads you are not interested in or accept you will respond with nastiness to any post I put up even when it has nothing to do with you
- accept that you will decide what is on topic and what is not
- accept that you will define any disagreement as a personal attack including defining a depersonalization and avoidance of personal attack as a personal attack and then spread widely the accusation
- accept that you will misrepresent whatever you please and it is my fault for responding to correct it
- accept that you will accuse me of bad behaviour all around the board without explaining how it is a violation (like your example of my post 102 presented here as my bad behaviour -- maybe even “harassment” along with any defence I put up to your attack on it.)
I was just criticized in the other active reactions thread for having reconsidered leaving.
While Pondering can attack me for a post that has nothing to do with her, it is my fault for responding. That if I truly want to not engage I should just accept to be attacked constantly and unfairly and just ignore it - or make good on any thoughts of leaving. Call it a flaw but I find it hard to ignore an attack I think is unfair following something I put effort into.
I have left here before for several months at a time and I admit it is a difficult decision. There are people I really like here. I appreciate the support from some of them -- the mutual appreciation of the exchanges with them are what attracts me to come here...
There is no way this can continue. I could keep writing posts to get them unfairly trashed by someone who wants to target and misrepresent them in a place where any mod involvement will be on the other side. I could do that, but is it rewarding/worth it?
I admit this is a personal flaw. I do find it hard to put effort into something and then leave a misrepresentation of it as the last word. Wanting to defend oneself may be instinct. The same desire to fight for fairness in the world makes me want to seek it for myself. I don’t like to shut up when I am unfairly treated.
I hate to leave as I have interacted with some of these people for years. I don't mean or want to be dramatic or to change my mind. I hate being indecisive about this. It is not to get attention. It is because it is a hard thing to do.
It was hard last year when I was not here to not explore issues with some of the people here. It certainly will be hard with an election coming perhaps in a few months.
Enmasse is nice. The moderation there is good and the community is good but you can go ages between any exchanges. I wish there were more people there. Twitter is brief -- no space to build a complicated idea.
I apologize for the indecision and back tracking. I don’t want to hurt people by being indecisive. I guess there are things about this place that I like, so it is very hard.
It is agonizing but I'll make a decision, shut up about it and just do it.
And you are right there should be no turning back from whatever decision.