Who should be the NEXT leader of the B.C. NDP?

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we lose close Vancouver ridings (think Spencer Herbert and Jenn McGinn)

Spencer is safe in Vancouver West End - the recent rent increase fiasco won him more votes

Mcginn - I think is in trouble - if the Liberal poll numbers stay near where they are now she will lose - if they tighten it could be a late night before all the ballots are counted.

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Stockholm wrote:

"With regards to its vision, the party should be talking about the fucking economy for fucks sake."

What about the economy? You mean like - "Elect the NDP and BC will be the only place on the planet earth that is completely insulated from the global recession"?

I'm not just being provocative. I would like to hear form some of the "know it alls" here what exactly you would do as Premier of BC to ensure that while the whole world goes to hell in an economic handbasket - BC will be the one little island of prosperity.

Why, yes Stockholm. The NDP should say exactly that, because it would have such credibility.

Seriously though what the NDP should do is use its strength (credibility on social policy) to turn its weakness (credibility on the economy) into a strength. Essentially the NDP should say: "You're worried about the economy, therefore we will use the government as a force for good during and after this global recession. The Liberals won't and can't because they don't believe that government can be a force for good to help you during and after this global recession." That's a very generalized way of saying that basically the NDP should highlight how its policy perscriptions will a) create jobs (think the US "stimulus package" via infrastructure programmes and building a green economy - which is completely leeching off Obama) and b) help you if you loose your job (through various social programmes that the party has more credibility on than their opponents). Frankly, I don't think they've been making this connection very well. All I've gotten, as an impression from the BC NDP, is that Gordon Campbell is bad, privitization is bad and that the NDP won't privatize. Which doesn't really say whether or not they'll actually do anything themselves. All they've done is spout a bunch of corny generalities about creating a "caring society" and how "everybody matters."

Fartful Codger wrote:

Lost in all this is whether A) Gregor wants to be leader/premier and B) whether he's the kind of leader that will thrive in the legislature. The ledge is not civic politics. It's a bloodsport and if you ever saw him in his few forays in question period, you'll note that he often looked lost. He's not well suited to the legislature. I suspect he had a vision of a quieter, gentler kind of political life, and I think he's more comfortable at City Hall. I don't think he'd be back, notwithstanding whether the party would coalesce under him or not.

I think he was okay in the legislature. Not an allstar like Joy MacPhail, a C+ overall - because he was better on his pet issues than generalities. But provincial politics is not only a bloody sport, like all Canadian legislatures, it requires you to sit down, shut up, and clap like a trained seal, if you're unwilling to do that in public, then perhaps you're unsuited to the job. Obviously, he was unwilling, so maybe he was unsuited. Then again James had problems dealing with Michael Sather, David Chudnovsky, Corky Evans (and other one term retirees)  - so perhaps it wasn't all to do with Robertson not fitting in - and largely to due with her not being suited to the job of leadership and managing conflicting interests and personalities (not to mention actually coming across as a potential Premier). It's quite odd too seeing as her performance in 05', all things considered, actually gave the impression that she was a potential Premier.

But I have to ask you in all seriousness if you've been observing Vancouver politics in the last ten years? Municipal politics isn't for the faint of heart either (just ask Mayors Owen, Campbell and Sullivan). I think Robertson is too much of a (sorry for the McCain-ian cliché) maverick to succeed as a non-leader in the party, because he clearly wasn't driving NDP policy. So, yeah, I'd agree that he won't be back because I agree that he'd be more comfortable at City Hall. Though I think he'd be more comfortable there because he can focus more directly on his environmental and economic pet-issues, which the provincial NDP was never comfortable adopting, despite the fact that they wanted to give the impression that they were.

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