Cameron: The Liberal Bounce & What the NDP Must Do

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Cameron: The Liberal Bounce & What the NDP Must Do

 

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[url=http://www.rabble.ca/politics.shtml?x=55406]Duncan Cameron[/url]:

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For the NDP caucus, leader Jack Layton, and party supporters across the country, the arrival of Stйphane Dion announces a new challenge. But for the Liberal leader the issue of economic justice presents a challenge as well. The Liberals have governed from the right for long enough that they have limited ability to mount a credible campaign addressing workplace, and pay-cheque issues. Stйphane Dion has no record in economic debate, or in backing working people. It will be revealing to see where he and his party stand when the House of Commons votes on anti-scab legislation.

Also revealing was today's [url=http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=9b12219f-aeac-4... on the growing gap between rich and poor in the country under the Liberals' tenrure:

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OTTAWA - The gap between Canada’s richest and poorest widened between 1999 and 2005, thanks in part to an increased value of housing, according to new data from Statistics Canada.

The study, published Wednesday in Perspectives on Labour and Income, ranked family units into five groups from the lowest net worth to the highest. (Net worth is the amount an individual or family would clear after selling all assets and paying off all debts.)

Between 1999 and 2005, the median net worth of families in the top fifth of the wealth distribution increased by 19 per cent, the study said, while the net worth of their counterparts in the bottom fifth remained virtually unchanged.

In other words, the richest got richer and the poorest stayed poor.


The NDP should be pointing out these facts about the growing economic inequality in Canada.

meades meades's picture

edited because I need to start reading other posts more thoroughly!

I think the NDP needs to make the next election about class. It's important to keep our emphasis on the environment with so many other "me-too" parties popping up now, but none of them really have the political will or courage to make wealth or a lack thereof a real issue.

[ 13 December 2006: Message edited by: meades ]

duncan cameron

This CCPA report does an outstanding job of showing what progressive tax policy can do to secure economic justice.
[url=http://www.policyalternatives.ca/Reports/2006/12/ReportsStudies1507/inde...

robbie_dee

Bang on article, Duncan.

Dion has cast both a "green" and "left-wing" aura since he was elected leader, but when it comes down to it, he is just another pro-business, free-trade liberal.

Although the NDP clearly has the best policies on the environment, it may be hard for the NDP to establish that as clear distinction between itself and the Liberals (or the Green Party) in the coming election.

On economic justice issues, otoh, Rae could have been a real threat, but Dion looks much weaker. He was part of the Liberal cabinet that embraced NAFTA, gutted unemployment insurance, refused to back anti-scab legislation for the 13 years they were in power, and sat back and watched the gap between the haves and the have-nots grow. It's time for the NDP to hammer the Libs, Cons and Greens on these issues, because it is the clearest distinction between what we represent and what the pro-business parties do.

[ 13 December 2006: Message edited by: robbie_dee ]

Unionist

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Originally posted by meades:
[b]I think the NDP needs to make the next election about class. [/b]

School, style, or social?

Lord Palmerston

This a great idea for the NDP campaign. Dion doesn't have much cred as an economic populist. And it's important for the NDP to move away from "lend us your vote" and distinguish themselves from the Liberals.

Coyote

Okay, but what would that program look like? I'm all for a campaign on economic populism, but right now Canada's economy is doing pretty good - red hot in West. When unemployment was high, a campaign of "jobs, jobs, jobs" had some appeal; but in today's market employers are finding it hard to fill positions.

Yes, there is growing income inequality in Canada, and there is far too much poverty and homelessness. I think we do have to address these issues. But how do we do that without looking like we're not paying attention to the current reality?

Fidel

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Originally posted by Coyote:
[b]Okay, but what would that program look like? I'm all for a campaign on economic populism, but right now Canada's economy is doing pretty good - red hot in West. When unemployment was high, a campaign of "jobs, jobs, jobs" had some appeal; but in today's market employers are finding it hard to fill positions.[/b]

Alberta is [i]one[/i] province experiencing a bit of job growth in exchange for allowing multinationals to rob them blind out there. Lots of Canadians don't want to, or cannot travel to Alberta for lots of legitimate reasons, lack of jobs skills training, lack of means to travel, severe shortage of housing in Alberta, etcetera.

Meanwhile, in Canada's largest province, the Royal Bank downgraded Ontario's expected growth rate from 3.1 percent to 1.5 percent in mid-October and pointing to the likelihood of a [url=http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=35e00f6d-... in our manufacturing sector. Canada's manufacturing sector is now more than 50 percent foreign-owned and controlled since our two old line parties started us down this road of neo-Liberalization. No other developed country economy allows a third as much foreign ownership of its manufacturing base. The NDP should be pointing this out as part of the weak underbelly of Liberal-Conservative party mismanagement of the economy and neo-Liberal ideology that says we must handover our natural wealth to foreign control for a song.

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“Dalton McGuinty’s [url=http://ofl.ca/index.php/publications/issue/focus_on_queens_park_septembe... take a hands-off approach to plant closures and layoffs. As a result, since June 2004, [b]Ontario has now lost 118,000 manufacturing jobs – more than 10 percent of all manufacturing jobs in the province.[/b] Thousands of working people in Ontario are losing their jobs. They deserve a Premier who stands up for them and their jobs, not a Premier who abandons them,” NDP leader Howard Hampton said.

McGuilty's Liberals are about as left as what Herbert Hoover's government was - as in, not at all.

[ 13 December 2006: Message edited by: Fidel ]

Stephen Gordon

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Originally posted by duncan cameron:
[b]This CCPA report does an outstanding job of showing what progressive tax policy can do to secure economic justice.
[url=http://www.policyalternatives.ca/Reports/2006/12/ReportsStudies1507/inde... 6455[/url][/b]

That report makes a good point: there's no reason to think we have to choose between economic growth and social programs. But that doesn't mean that you don't have to be careful about [i]how[/i] you raise those taxes. The [url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=25&t=001373]N... recipe[/url] is high consumption taxes and low taxes on investment income.

Lord Palmerston

How much cred will Layton have as an economic populist?

John K

The NDP's platform needs to do a better job of appealing to middle class voters.

If you look at the Stats Can inequality study, both the poorest third of families (many of whom don't vote) and the middle fifty per cent (most of whom do vote) are losing ground economically to the wealthiest ten per cent.

Too often, the NDP tailors its message to the poorest third of voters. The Conservatives on the other hand tailor their message to the middle half of voters even though their policies mostly benefit the top ten per cent.

Fidel

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Originally posted by Stephen Gordon:
[b] The [url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=25&t=001373]N... recipe[/url] is high consumption taxes and low taxes on investment income.[/b]

So we can tax the poor to pay the poor. Meanwhile, Canada is still a hewer of wood and drawer of water mid-power banana republic exporting more energy to colonial-corporate America than any other nation. We've got oil, nat-gas, minerals and timber up the wazoo. I think we have just a few more options than the Scandinavian countries where resources are fewer and exceedingly more competitive than Canada.

And part of the reason they are more competitive than Canada is that they don't have Liberal Party governments stealing billions of dollars from EI funds that could be used to re-train workers for industries fickle about wanting workers with high tech job skills. The Swede's and Fin's are economically competitive [i]because[/i] of higher social spending as a percentage of GDP than is true in Canada, not in spite of it. The two old line parties didn't seem to mind putting us in a debt hole with wrong-headed ideology in the 1980's. A good place to start would be to just clean the two dead weight parties out of Ottawa altogether. The NDP is a lot closer to that Scandinavian model you nail up every now and then than our two old line parties will ever be.

writer writer's picture

Why doesn't the NDP distinguish itself by fighting for fully accessable abortions AND daycare across the country?

By focusing on both healthcare AND the environment, which are related, and of concern to many?

And by throwing some of its tinny slogans in the trash?

Malcolm Malcolm's picture

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Originally posted by John K:
[b]The NDP's platform needs to do a better job of appealing to middle class voters.

Too often, the NDP tailors its message to the poorest third of voters.
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And, ironically, we don't do as well amongst the poorest third of voters as we do amongst some other demographics.

Economic populism has to be the key. Bread and butter.

In a handful of seats - BC interior and Vancouver Island, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, rural Nova Scotia - we have some opportunities to appeal to NDP-CPC swing voters. (Yes, Urban Leftist, these voters do exist.)

In most of the country, we need to distinguish the Liberal reality from the Liberal rhetoric. And we need to be tough about it. We shouldn't (generally) lead with this, but we should be merciless.

For example, when the Liberals talk about childcare, we should ask what they did about childcare for 13 long years. Were they too busy stealing money in Quebec to do anything about childcare? Likewise the Environment. As bad as the Tory record is, they have done more in one year than the Liberals did in 13.

And in Vancouver Kingsway, the key message is obvious.

"In 2006, the people of Vancouver Kingsway elected a Liberal and got a Conservative. Don't make that mistake again. Vote NDP."

KenS

For those interested I started a thread "Forcing Dion into Climate Change ACTION"

This follows my artcile posted a couple days ago "Progressives Shun Layton On Climate Change"