Female ski jumpers discriminated against by IOC
Fri, 2006-12-22 10:57
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Female ski jumpers discriminated against by IOC
Fri, 2006-12-22 10:57
#2
I was just reading this at ndp.ca.
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NDP Leader Jack Layton today denounced the decision made by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to deny women the right to participate in ski jumping in the 2010 Olympics Games in Vancouver.The NDP joins Canadians in denouncing the IOC’s decision to discriminate based on gender and deny women a chance to compete. Ski jumping is the only Olympic winter sport that still excludes women, under the rules of the IOC. The female members of the Canadian team have been training hard and want an equal opportunity to represent their country at the Olympics in this sport.
Layton was joined by NDP MP Irene Mathyssen (Critic for the Status of Women), Peter Julian (Critic for the Vancouver Olympics) and Wayne Marston (Human Rights Critic) in calling upon the federal government to denounce the IOC decision and do everything possible to reverse it. The NDP fully support the Human Rights complaint filed by the women’s team and is also calling on the government to allocate public funds so that both sexes can compete in this sport. Currently only male ski jumpers get funding from the government.
Perhaps if the human rights complaint goes through, and the IOC doesn't bend, we can up the ante by refusing to provide facilities for the men's ski jumping.
Fri, 2006-12-22 11:09
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According to the magazine Norsk SkiHopp (Norwegian Ski Jumping) women ski jumpers will be participating in the 2009 World Championships, and as well, the Japanese authorities are saying that it is quite possible that women ski jumpers will be allowed at the 2007 Sapporo World championships.
[url=http://www.skihopp.no/?show=les&id=1160]trust me on this[/url]
Fri, 2006-12-22 11:11
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Originally posted by jeff house:
[b][url=http://www.skihopp.no/?show=les&id=1160]trust me on this[/url][/b]
I guess I'll have to! [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]
That's interesting. I'm not sure what to think. I mean, is the reason that there won't be an event at the Olympics because there hasn't been the organization at the lower levels to produce finalists for the Olympics?
Fri, 2006-12-22 11:32
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I think the IOC has been dragging its feet on the issue.
There is some suggestion that they'll allow women in 2014.
I have no doubt that Canada, Norway, and the other likely contestants can have a women's team in place by 2010.
That's about the same time it took to win World War II, start to finish. So finding three Olympic ski jumpers who are women should also be possible.
Mon, 2007-01-01 16:05
#6
It mentioned on Sky tv that the womens record time is shorter than the mens and I wonder if this could be a factor i.e. women may dominate it. Mind you, women dominate horse jumping and it didn't stop it being introduced so maybe I'm being too sceptical.
Mon, 2007-01-01 16:59
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the womens record time is shorter than the mens
Ski jumping is scored based on a combination of style and distance.
Mon, 2007-01-01 17:03
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the womens record time is shorter than the mens
Ski jumping is scored based on a combination of style and distance.
Tue, 2007-01-02 12:34
#9
So much for Sky text.
Wed, 2007-01-03 19:01
#10
with regards to depriving men- isn't that rather like keeping the entire class in because of one student's misbehaviour ? It's not like men don't want women to compete, is it ?
Wed, 2007-01-03 19:04
#11
Have there been strong campaigns by male ski jumpers to allow women into the sport at the Olympics?
If not, perhaps this would be a good way to drum up some support from them!
Wed, 2007-01-03 19:12
#12
that's an excellent idea !
Wed, 2008-01-09 15:19
#13
I just noticed one of my facebook friends joining a group in support of including female ski jumpers in the Olympics.
Apparently it's the only sport in the Olympics that women aren't allowed to participate in.
I just don't get it. What makes ski jumping any different than any other sport when it comes to women competing? This is stupid.
Another good reason to ignore the Olympics, I guess. I still think Canada should refuse to provide facilities for male ski jumpers for the Olympics if women can't compete. In my fantasies, feminist activists get a court injunction or something against the province and city of Vancouver providing such facilities, because it discriminates on prohibited grounds. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]
Wed, 2008-01-09 15:47
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remind
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
[b]I just noticed one of my facebook friends joining a group in support of including female ski jumpers in the Olympics.Apparently it's the only sport in the Olympics that women aren't allowed to participate in.
I just don't get it. What makes ski jumping any different than any other sport when it comes to women competing? This is stupid.[/b]
They were speaking with Canadian female ski jumpers the other day on the noon news hour about this. They were at Whistler, using the jump to get prepared for the Nationals.
They then spoke to an IOC official and asked {i][b]him[/i][/b] why the Olympics would not recognize the sport of Womens Ski Jumping. His answer was lack of public interest in it.
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[b]I still think Canada should refuse to provide facilities for male ski jumpers for the Olympics if women can't compete. In my fantasies, feminist activists get a court injunction or something against the province and city of Vancouver providing such facilities, because it discriminates on prohibited grounds. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [/b]
I think that is a very good idea Michelle, but the IOC says it is not discriminating for gender reasons but for financial reasons, not interest = no tickets sales, or corporate endorsements.
Wed, 2008-01-09 15:53
#15
Dick Pound was interviewed yesterday on this. He was adamant that the reason was that not enough countries had established the sport to allow for competition (something like that anyway).
I have a stupid question. Is there a documented reason as to why ski jumping needs to be separated along gender lines? If Louise's point is correct, why can't men and women compete in the same events? Surely any attempt to exclude women from [i]those[/i] competitions would be a slam-dunk human rights violation, as in the case of women who fought to play on "men's" hockey teams and won.
Just wondering.
Wed, 2008-01-09 16:29
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remind
quote:
Originally posted by unionist:
[b]Dick Pound was interviewed yesterday on this. He was adamant that the reason was that not enough countries had established the sport to allow for competition (something like that anyway).I have a stupid question. Is there a documented reason as to why ski jumping needs to be separated along gender lines? If Louise's point is correct, why can't men and women compete in the same events? Surely any attempt to exclude women from [i]those[/i] competitions would be a slam-dunk human rights violation, as in the case of women who fought to play on "men's" hockey teams and won.
Just wondering.[/b]
The women's ski jump record in NA is 171 meters, while the men's world record is 239 meteres.
Apparently, some think there is still time to force the IOC into making ski jumping gender equal.
Wed, 2008-01-09 17:01
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Dick Pound was interviewed yesterday on this. He was adamant that the reason was that not enough countries had established the sport to allow for competition (something like that anyway).
Dick Pound,as usual stands at the precipice of a very slippery slope. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] I would opine that not many countries have womens' ski-jumping because they are not allowed to compete in Olympic events.
I'm all for sports,winter or otherwise but this whole Olympic scam is an exercise in privileged pursuits garnering a disproportionate share of the public weal unto themselves.
Whom other than a proud parent will spend half a day on a loser cruiser and pay hundreds of dollars for a ticket to watch their offspring play in the snow? I'll bet half the seats are filled by the posteriors of non-paying mooches from the Olympic committee and various national sport stoogocrats.
Wed, 2008-01-09 20:27
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Le T
Anyone think that this is a hypocritical statement for the NDP to make? Instead of denouncing the Olympics as the affordable-housing-destroying, non-treatied-land-stealing, highway-building, poor-hating, gentrifying corporate freak show that it is they want to make it more equitable by addressing the sexism in who is allowed to participate in the events? Come on.
Wed, 2008-01-09 20:35
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remind
quote:
Originally posted by Le Tйlйspectateur:
[b]Anyone think that this is a hypocritical statement for the NDP to make? Instead of denouncing the Olympics as the affordable-housing-destroying, non-treatied-land-stealing, highway-building, poor-hating, gentrifying corporate freak show that it is they want to make it more equitable by addressing the sexism in who is allowed to participate in the events? Come on.[/b]
Well everything the NDP are saying these days is hyprocritical,perhaps we just need too realize, the NDP is not the NDP anymore, and just why they are slipping the polls.
Wed, 2008-02-06 17:01
#20
If anyone wants to join the Facebook group mentioned, the address is:
[url=http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8349258689]Include Female Ski Jumpers in the Olympics[/url]
[ 06 February 2008: Message edited by: popfro ]
Mon, 2008-03-03 12:57
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[url=http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080228.wsptrogge28/..."Women Ski Jumpers Would Dilute Olympic Medals" - Jacques Rogge, President, IOC[/url]
The President of the IOC implies that if they allow women ski jumpers into the Olympics, it will "dilute" the medals of other athletes.
How can Canada be hosting the Olympics with comments and policies like that from the President of the International Olympic Commitee?
Thu, 2008-05-22 11:56
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writer
[url=http://section15.ca/blog/2008/05/22/olympic_ski_international/]all downhill from here?[/url]
The effort to get women’s downhill skiing into the 2010 Olympics is now international. Yesterday, a group of jumpers from around the world filed a lawsuit to either get women into the games, or pull the men’s competition out.
— section15.ca
According to CTV.ca, there's a press conference about the lawsuit this afternoon. I'm not sure if it will be held in B.C.