Super-thin & under-16 models banned from Montrйal Fashion Week

Are we supposed to applaud them for this?

Its one step in the right direction.

The BMI is not an accurate reflection of health and weight. Someone can be thin with a fairly high BMI and many females who body build or workout of a regular basis will have a BMI of less than 18.

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
[b]Gee did you notice this was a progressive board.

Do you think it is a good idea for young women to be inundated with imagery that says you must starve yourself to be beautiful?

Do you believe that we should sexualize girls under the age of 16?[/b]

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If you were referring to me, I am beyond progressive.

I will not give kudos to someone who does not deserve it.

I don't exploit starved underaged girls, either, but you don't see me expecting applause for that.

It's like giving a medal to every person who has never stolen from or raped or killed somebody.

These people have blood on their hands directly or indirectly with what the old job qualifications were. They get no praise from me.

So, don't expect me to say bravo to them. A stern "it's about time you stopped exploiting those desperate underaged children with eating disorders" is more like it.

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
[b]Gee that explains a whole lot more than your cryptic response. Sorry for falling for that troll I should no better.[/b]

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I was being sarcastic in my first reponse.

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
[b]Now that I know you are beyond progressive I am in total awe. Almost shock and awe but not quite.[/b]

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I guess I will have to think of something shocking to say...

I do, however, support the banning of under-16 models from modeling women's clothing lines. If you want to get kids to model kids' clothes or even teen lines, great. But as an adult woman, I find it offensive to my intelligence and my body to be offered clothing for women that only looks right if you've got no boobs or hips.

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Originally posted by Michelle:
You'd think, as a fat person, that I would be 100% in support of this, but I'm not - not 100%. Because while I'm certainly not crying a river for underweight women, who are FAR more socially acceptable than fat women, and who certainly don't receive even a hundredth of the social sanction that fat women do, I don't like the idea of turning very thin bodies into pariahs as some sort of attempt at equalization, or rehabilitation of the image of fat bodies.

That said, underweight bodies are the industry norm, and that should be fought against. So perhaps a few shows without underweight bodies (or with underweight bodies in the vast minority) would be good.

I'll be impressed when they start having ALL sizes of bodies in these shows, integrated. As it stands now, very very thin bodies are way, way overrepresented, sprinkled with the occasional moderately very thin bodies. Fat bodies are relegated to Fat Lady Clothing shows, and most of the time even those bodies are simply average as opposed to truly fat.

So, my feelings on this are mixed. Some women have naturally extremely thin bodies. Most women have to starve themselves and throw up in order to have an extremely thin body. But for those who are naturally extremely thin, I don't want to see their bodies turned into the New Fatso.[/QB]

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I'm no fan of Britney, but when they said she was "fat," I just shook my head. I remember the same thing with Alicia Silverstone happened about a decade before.

Personally, I'd rather be overweight than underweight, but I am willing to bet that the majority of those models starve themselves and have to do a lot of hard drugs to get that sickeningly thin to get work. Their bodies do not look naturally thin to me.

That's beyond abusive.

I know when I see someone *that* thin, I automatically think "eating disorder" and get told I'm overly sensitive, then lo and behold, years later, the person admits to having one.

And I'd like to see all sorts of different types of people on TV -- overly thin, botoxed people who had scary plastic surgery isn't representative of what's really out there nor should it be...

Being a "fat" person myself and I know because I am the only one who sees myself nekid, well besides my doc, and I know how to dress so that my "muffin top" doesn't show so most people would think that I am not fat, but my doc says I have to lose the muffin top cause it's not healthy for me.