The Jesus bed connection.
Mon, 2007-12-17 13:31
#1
The Jesus bed connection.
Mon, 2007-12-17 13:31
#2
The Jesus bed connection.
This holiday, think and remember. Before the word sleep became part of our vocabulary, the word dead was used, meaning not conscious. The word dead covered all the conditions for being found not conscious. People 2000 years ago, not yet having the word sleep, would have described what the carpenter Jesus was doing as raising the dead. With hindsight, through the study of history, we can now see and understand that Jesus was raising the sleeping, by giving them beds. The manger, praying before going to bed, and the spread of furniture with Christianity, all points to Jesus being responsible mass utilization of the bed, in the same way Henry Ford is famous for the automobile. Jesus was not first with the invention of the bed, but he was first to realize everyone needs to sleep up off the ground. In this way, Jesus gave us life more abundant, much more healthier.
Not conscious. The meaning of deceased is that you do not wake back up. Many times people are thought to be deceased, but to have them conscious again in the story,or life, means they were miss-diagnosed. A good eye, someone alert to the signs of life can show that the person was miss-diagnosed, but that hurts the reputation of the person who signed the death certificate. Although less frequent today, this still happens. Jesus got into trouble mainly because of the politics of maintaining reputations. This is why people used to have a "wake", because we are so prone to errors, even our health professionals.
In the stories, Jesus would stop funeral processions on the way to the graveyard, and revive the person about to be buried. Imagine that. It would surely make many people look ignorant and foolish, but save the life of the person wrongly diagnosed. What would you do, how would you handle the situation if it was shown that you had tried to bury a person who was not deceased but only sick and unconscious? How would you try to explain your error?
Alan
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Mon, 2007-12-17 16:16
#3
M. Spector
My favourite gingerbread recipe, from [i]Canadian Living[/i] magazine.
The balance of spices and the two kinds of molasses give these cookies a most appealing taste that does not fade, even when the cookies are several weeks old.
Caution: each cookie has 105 calories and 4 g of fat.
Ingredients:
Ѕ cup (125 mL) shortening
Ѕ cup (125 mL) granulated sugar
1 egg
1/3 cup (75 mL) fancy molasses
ј cup (50 mL) blackstrap molasses
2ѕ cups (675 mL) all-purpose flour
1 tsp (5 mL) ground ginger
Ѕ tsp (2 mL) each baking soda, salt, cloves and cinnamon
Preparation:
In large bowl, beat shortening with sugar until fluffy; beat in egg and fancy and blackstrap molasses.
Now wash your hands!
Stir together flour, ginger, baking soda, salt, cloves and cinnamon; with wooden spoon, stir into molasses mixture in 3 additions until well combined, using hands when mixture becomes too stiff to stir.
Gather into ball. Divide in half; flatten into discs. Wrap each in plastic wrap; refrigerate for at least 1 hour or until firm.
Between sheets of waxed paper, roll out each portion of dough to 1/3-inch (3 mm) thickness. Remove top sheet of paper. Using 3-inch (8 cm) cookie cutter, cut out desired shapes, rerolling scraps once. Transfer to parchment paper-lined or greased baking sheets. Freeze for 20 minutes or until firm.
Bake in 325°F (160°C) oven for 12 to 15 minutes or until golden and firm to the touch.
Enjoy!
[ 17 December 2007: Message edited by: M. Spector ]
Mon, 2007-12-17 16:34
#4
remind
Thanks mspector, am going to use this recipe to make walls and roofs for a gingerbread house for the kids to decorate on Christmas Eve.
Mon, 2007-12-17 17:02
#5
I think I'm going to move this to humanities and science, since this isn't really about activism - seems to be alanejackson's ideas on religious studies, which is fair enough.
Tue, 2007-12-18 09:02
#6
those look yummy- I'm going to try that too !
Tue, 2007-12-18 10:31
#7
Speaking of gingerbread houses, how do you make that icing that turns into concrete? My daughter and I have made gingerbread creations over the last few christmases, often from a kit, but we always run out of that binding agent/icing stuff they provide.
Tue, 2007-12-18 11:06
#8
remind
oldgoat, you have to use an icing recipe that contains Cream of Tartar and egg whites.
Such as this one:
3 egg whites
11/2 - 2cups icing sugar
1/4 tsp cream of tartar, or tblespoon lemon juice.
Put egg whites in lrge bowl add 2tble spoons of icing sugar beat for 3 mins. Repeat this until all the sugar is used. You add the lemon juice or cream of tartar gradually as mixture thickens.
To test if thick enough, put an a little on the back of a spoon and cut it with a knife if it stays parted it is good to go, if not and it melts together add more icing sugar until it stays cut.
Tue, 2007-12-18 11:17
#9
Looks pretty simple. Thanks. [img]cool.gif" border="0[/img]
Sat, 2007-12-22 21:10
#10
You can find couches buried along with the Pharaohs in Egypt. Christianity began as an effort to get "everyone" sleeping in a bed. They had cars before Henry Ford. But Ford becomes famous because of his efforts toward the mass utilization of the car. Beds began being used long before Jesus, to most seen as a status symbol in a caste system, with the benefits and reasoning behind sleeping raised not widely understood. Jesus began working toward getting everyone sleeping in a bed. We take it for granted today, but to have everyone sleeping in a bed in a community vastly improves the health of everyone. Many illnesses are avoided, and sleeping in a bed doubles the average person's life span mainly through the prevention of heat loss through dissipation into the ground. A definite danger to the young and old in tribes not mass utilizing furniture. 2000 years ago, the mass utilization of the bed was the one thing that would do mankind the most good. An example of the need for equality among us.
I'm talking history, not religion. When I ask people whose famous for the bed, most say they never thought about the bed. But once in a while a person will say Jesus, because of the manger. In a world of cause and effect, it's hard to keep history hidden, long.
Mon, 2007-12-24 15:55
#11
Jesus had a lot of love in his heart and that's why he wanted to get everybody into bed.
There are 1001 variations of Christianity in this world and we may be seeing the birth of yet another sect, this one based getting into the sack for Jesus. Hallelujah!
Maybe the babble forum will be the place where this spiritual movement's theology will be defined. A 21st century 'Council of Nicea.'
This could be a great and important moment in the history of the galaxy and a fulfilment of End Time Prophecies!
Wed, 2007-12-26 09:52
#12
The bed is evolutionary medicine. People that do not compensate for the height of the trees suffer health problems due to sleeping on the ground. Some agree the term "hell" means "the grave". So, getting people using raised beds is how Jesus and his followers were keeping others from an early grave.
It all hinges on the definition of the word "dead". Before the word sleep, did they use the word dead? Does "raising the dead" mean "raising the sleeping", in the history books?
It just goes to show how strongly our lives are affected by peer pressure. The effect of Christianity peer pressureing everyone into using beds has raised life expectancy to about 70 years of age. Now life expectancy drastically increases when people reorient every 10 minutes magnetically.
Wed, 2007-12-26 10:03
#13
M. Spector
quote:
Originally posted by alanejackson:
[b]Some agree the term "hell" means "the grave".[/b]
Others, however, define "hell" as spending five minutes reading the delusional rantings of devotees of pseudoscience.
Sat, 2007-12-29 18:31
#14
Is bed the opposite of good?
Mon, 2007-12-31 13:28
#15
Time wise
"Where the truth hurts, it also heals".
When man left the land, and went to sea, he, or it was learned, that a lengthy stay would be followed by ill health. Much time passed until the British Navy came to realize that mans' health suffered because a man at sea was not receiving nutrients his body had grown accustom to processing. Man had spent many years living on the land, and feeding on the foods found in that environment.
Following this line of reasoning, it became obvious that something man received when he consumed limes, allowed him to maintain better health for a longer period of time, while at sea.
This story/concept is keyed in mans' memory, or the reasoning is acknowledged, when the term limy is used to refer to a seaman. Along with other such stories, history shows us that the thought of having to compensate for a degree of ones' previous environment, must accompany man/mankind as they move to new surroundings.
"The mark of the beast has always been ignorance".
It would seem to be unthinkable that someone would go to sea, and then deny that he had once lived on the land. The many facts that would have to be overlooked, or explained in some way other then the truth, would seem to us to be too numerous.
Yet today, many people will deny the facts/knowledge that shows man came to live on the land after having lived a long time up off the ground, in the trees. Living a life of little effort toward learning, denying the recent knowledge that would help them to understand the past, these people make up a god like Zeus to explain things, rather then take the time required to serve the word of knowledge.
Today words are still coming into being, causing our vocabulary to continue to grow. Each word added to our vocabulary, brings with it the ability of more complex thought. Thus, Before each word, there was less complex thought.
Before the word sleep was assigned, the word dead was used in its' place. The word dead meant not awake. Later, the words deceased, unconscious, and sleep were assigned. Thus, by way of respect for words, (known as God the father by these people), the story of Jesus tells us of a man in the past who recognized that man suffered when he slept on the ground. Others before Jesus recognized this fact, but unlike Jesus they did not believe in sharing information with everyone.
Today, some fail to see that the use of furniture has spread along with the story of Jesus. Perhaps that is because mans' need for furniture comes from his past history in the trees, up off the ground. And to admit that now would show that they have been concerned with something other then the word. And knew him not.
Mankinds awareness grows due to those who correlate present knowledge with that of the past, and share their conclusions with all. Few, in the past, have put forth the effort required to increase mankinds' over-all understanding. Instead, history records great effort being given to keeping new understandings from all people. Religious organizations, through their monopolistic control over education, purposely misinterpret history or conceal information so that those in political control remain so. People who have not received the facts concerning the world around them, make better slaves. Like a parent who tries to keep his children dependent on him, by limiting their growth through learning, governing bodies have kept their place by hiding facts from those who they rule over. But not from the future.
Mon, 2007-12-31 13:49
#16
Becoming A Holiday
Tool Making
Or
Man Does Sin
It was recently reported, that primates, (other than man), had been observed fashioning and using tools, more extensively than previously thought to have occurred in nature. Researchers noticed animals sharpening sticks with their teeth, and then using them to spear small game during food gathering. It was also pointed out that females were more involved in this practice than males. That shouldn't surprise many, should it?
Often overlooked, the greatest difference between the many species dwelling on earth, is that man appears to be the only "Sinner". As a species, man has acquired the ability to become conscious of errors which facilitate its death. Repentance, may be the most beneficial tool ever conceived. Together, the concepts of "To Sin" and "Repentance Of", when utilized properly, affords salvation to man. To discover man's sin/a sin, is the greatest accomplishment an individual can achieve. Many facts, from many people, collected over many generations, allows "The One" to see. Then "Man" offers repentance.
Animals die, mainly from not working together against death.
Examples: During my studies I think I have noticed a sin previously unrecognized by man, and this has allowed me to become more familiar with similar discoveries in the past. Facts indicate that the bird egg must be turned periodically during incubation in order to maintain its warm blooded metabolism. Whereas the reptile egg does not require this periodic turning. Thus, a warm-blooded body must move, or be moved, more than that of a cold blooded metabolism. In hospitals, bed ridden patients are turned every two hours to prevent bed sores. Would turning them every 10 minutes prevent osteoporosis? Is this how the child does it? Rocking chairs and cradles are evidence that others have been thinking along this line of reasoning. I'm thinking its a sin not to move about every so often. And I'm thinking we all need to think it is. But we don't, yet.
The Movement of the Trees. This need to move at a higher rate became a requirement for some due to time spent living in the trees rather than on the ground. Only life forms living for long periods of time in the trees have become warm-blooded. The bird is required to turn its eggs during incubation because a higher rate of movement is one aspect of living in the trees, and the animals adaptation to that environment now requires it. What other requirements have come about due to our past generations being tree dwellers?
The Height of the Trees. It was easier to become a warm-blooded metabolism, and maintain that, living up off the ground where heat would not dissipate easily. The "Bed" is man's repentance for having slept on the ground, after moving from the trees back down to the ground without realizing the height of the trees must be compensated for. The story of Jesus reminds us, how important it is that each one of us be aware of and utilize this concept, these concepts.
The Atmosphere Of the Trees. The trees excrete/extrude metabolic byproducts in the form of organic droplets and gases. Over time, life forms living in that environment adapt to using the atmosphere produced by, and synonymous with the trees. Man learned that his suffering from an inadequate atmosphere, after leaving the trees, could be alleviated/compensated for by burning bushes. Moses recorded what he had learned.
Today, many so-called leaders subscribe to the notion that instigating/causing strife, destruction, and death elsewhere on the Globe, can be beneficial to them and there's, somehow. The problems that most afflict us today stems mainly from having such leaders for so long. They say their way of life is being threatened. Shouldn't it be? Biblical teachings would. Would not "God with Us".
[ 31 December 2007: Message edited by: alanejackson ]
Wed, 2008-01-09 22:59
#17
Allow me to share a response to my "Jesus and the bed" theory/observation, from another discussion forum.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:08 pm
FFT
Moderator
"This is the best miracle apologetic I've ever seen."
I had to use the dictionary to try to figure out the meaning behind that sentence.
apolo[getic adj.
5Fr apolog=tique LL(Ec) apologeticus Gr apologctikos, suitable for defense apologeisthai: see APOLOGY6
1 defending in writing or speech; vindicating
2 showing realization of and regret for a fault, wrong, etc.; making an apology Also apol#o[get$i[cal
n. a formal defense, often written, of a belief, cause, etc.
I take it to mean something like:
This is the best miracle defense I've ever seen.
This is the best miracle explanation I've ever seen.
Fri, 2008-01-18 17:16
#18
PLAYING FAVORITES
YOU ARE WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN
or
A TRAIL OF WORDS
With a time machine, you can be found, every place you've ever been. And the truth, it may seem, has a time machine.
When Jesus read the Bible, it did not contain as many words. As many books, that are available to us today, were not , for him. When Jesus read the different books, by the different writers, he read them as if they were written by one. This is the key to time travel. Not to have favorites. Playing favorites, is a way of thinking, some have grown out of. After seeing the world as one thing after another, one realizes, it can be seen as one, too.
With a favorite writer, you can see the world through his eyes, only. By gathering the writers together, somehow, much more wisdom and understanding can be gained. This is how Jesus became much wiser than the average person. And he past down data to others through this same method. The story of Jesus, although it is derived from many, must be taken as coming from one, or total data download is not achieved. In other words, it must be by way of the father.
The Bible was able to take Jesus to the beginning, and will do so for anyone who has the same relationship with it. On the way to the beginning, man's beginning can be seen. The dust of the earth is home to many microbes. Animals living on the ground, their skin must be of a kind that will keep out these many microbes.
The stored food and water, that the animal carries around, the microbes would have access to also, if they could. So yes, animals are formed from the dust of the earth, but work themselves away from the dust, if they have the time. It makes it easier for their skin to do it's job. Its the reason man walks up right. Its the reason man's head is the farthest from the ground. Its the reason many animals moved to the trees. Its the reason man should sleep in a bed, ware shoes, sit in chairs, walk on floors, and go to live in space.
Having been made above average by way of his effort put into studying, Jesus was found using the word sleep. Where as, most others on the earth were still using the word dead to describe a person not conscious. Life was becoming more complex. Nolonger could you get by describing a person who was not conscious, simply with the word dead. Now you were asked to be more descriptive in your use of words. Where you use to just use the word dead, now the word sleep could be use to describe one of the states of being not conscious, to better help others understand what was being said.
It is said, "the answer is always there, you just have to ask the right question". But who do you ask, or what do you ask? A person, all people, or everything? Why did Jesus say, " He's not dead, He's only sleeping"? Why is it, "Jesus was raised from the dead"? Why not, "Jesus was awaken from the dead"? Or, "Jesus was awoke from the dead"? Why is it said, "Jesus raised the dead"? Why not, "Jesus awoke the dead"?
If I'm right about Jesus and the bed, then many just aren't using their head. They don't really know the meaning of "dead", or why Christians pray before going to bed. And that, by God their not being led. History records, their just playing favorites. Thus; are anchored in time.
" READ THE BEST BOOKS FIRST, OR YOU MAY NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THEM AT ALL." -- Thoreau
Tue, 2008-01-22 19:42
#19
Happened already. There was a sect that had the "be a hooker for Jesus" thing going. "Fishers of men" The female members brought home new boyfriends and got them to join the group with inducements.
I wondor how the teenage jesus behaved? Did He have hissy fits, freudean hatred for his "dad" and casual girlfriends?
Woouldn't it be interesting if the "Jesus, the missing years" was found in some cave in Palastine. Or the secret diary of Jesus, aged 13 and a half. Or if Joseph's secret diary was found?
Years of enduring sniggers in the pub about his blond blue eyed son. What would he have written?
quote:
Originally posted by marzo:
[b]Jesus had a lot of love in his heart and that's why he wanted to get everybody into bed.
There are 1001 variations of Christianity in this world and we may be seeing the birth of yet another sect, this one based getting into the sack for Jesus. Hallelujah!
Maybe the babble forum will be the place where this spiritual movement's theology will be defined. A 21st century 'Council of Nicea.'
This could be a great and important moment in the history of the galaxy and a fulfilment of End Time Prophecies![/b]
Tue, 2008-01-22 20:37
#20
If you're bad in bed, baby Jesus cries.
Tue, 2008-01-22 21:11
#21
remind
I love this thread. It has a bit of everything. Kinda like the spices of life on display.
Anyhow back to the topic at hand, I can imagine the Nicean Council saying: "well, let's take a man and make him a God, a regular carpenter who sole purpose was to raise the beds of the people, and we will spin it as he raised the dead".
Tue, 2008-01-22 22:22
#22
I'll save my a recipe.
On the matter of misdiagnosis, I recall the practice, in the days of sail, when there was a burial at sea, of passing a needle or awl through the nose of the "corpse" when fitting the canvas shroud. The story goes that when this happened accidentally, on a previous occasion, that the corpse had sprung to life, thus initiating the practice at all sea burials.
Wed, 2008-01-23 07:31
#23
quote:
Woouldn't it be interesting if the "Jesus, the missing years" was found in some cave in Palastine.
Or if some really read the story according to history, and used logic and common sense? What if someone did that instead of just go along with political dogma? What if they then shared what they learned from personal study? How would others react?
Matthew 19:16-22
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? [b]17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.[/b] 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
John 11:1 Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 (It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.) 3 Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick. 4 When Jesus heard that, he said, [b]This sickness is not unto death,[/b] but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.
The diary of Samuel Pepys 1667- 1669. I think the last name spelling may be off. It was a book on tape I got from the library. I recorded the part that tells of his brother passing out. In the diary Samuel describes the account as him "falling down all along the ground dead, which gave me a great fright." He meant not conscious.
Wed, 2008-01-23 07:51
#24
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
[b]45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.[/b]
[ 23 January 2008: Message edited by: alanejackson ]
Wed, 2008-01-23 07:54
#25
Joh 2:21 - But He was speaking of the temple of His body.
Lu 11:34 - The lamp of the body is the eye. Therefore, when your eye is good, your whole body also is full of light. But when your eye is bad, your body also is full of darkness.
Mr 12:24 - Jesus answered and said to them, "Are you not therefore mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God?
Mr 12:27 - He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken."
Joh 7:38 - He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
[ 23 January 2008: Message edited by: alanejackson ]
Wed, 2008-01-23 07:54
#26
quote:
Originally posted by Boarsbreath:
[b]Is bed the opposite of good?[/b]
It's the opposite of god.
And guess which one gives more comfort?
Wed, 2008-01-23 08:02
#27
1And it came pass that in that time the Great God Om spake unto Brutha, the Chosen One: 'Psst!' 2 Brutha paused in mid-hoe and stared around the garden. 'Pardon?' he said. 3 Yea, the Great God Om spake again unto Brutha, the Chosen One: 'Psst!' 4 Brutha hesitated. Someone had definitely spoken to him from out of the air. 5 Perhaps it was a demon. 6 Once more the Great God Om spake unto Brutha, the Chosen One. 'Are you deaf, boy?' 7 'Get thee behind me, demon,' he (Brutha) muttered. 8 'I am behind you.' Brutha turned again, slowly. The garden was still empty. 9 He fled.
[ 23 January 2008: Message edited by: Proaxiom ]
Thu, 2008-01-24 23:20
#28
Small gods is one of my favorites. And i think the point of the story is that believers make the god. God dies when you stop believing.
I blame John lennon.
Other good ones are pyramids, guards guards, witches abroad, the light fantastic, I do not understand why this is less popular than harry potter.
quote:
Originally posted by Proaxiom:
[b]1And it came pass that in that time the Great God Om spake unto Brutha, the Chosen One: 'Psst!' 2 Brutha paused in mid-hoe and stared around the garden. 'Pardon?' he said. 3 Yea, the Great God Om spake again unto Brutha, the Chosen One: 'Psst!' 4 Brutha hesitated. Someone had definitely spoken to him from out of the air. 5 Perhaps it was a demon. 6 Once more the Great God Om spake unto Brutha, the Chosen One. 'Are you deaf, boy?' 7 'Get thee behind me, demon,' he (Brutha) muttered. 8 'I am behind you.' Brutha turned again, slowly. The garden was still empty. 9 He fled.[ 23 January 2008: Message edited by: Proaxiom ][/b]
Tue, 2008-02-05 13:31
#29
Learning God's Language
Destined to Language
Or
What's Unknown Becomes Important
Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Commandments are advice as to behavior which promotes and maintains peace among men. They are rules that keep you on the good side of what God is doing. To understand what is meant, what is being said, when one reads or hears the words of the first and great commandment, you must interpret the correct definition for each of the words arranged, purposefully intending the inspiration of a specific thought. Only when you get the definitions correct, can you receive the intended thought. And your definition for the word "God" must agree with the definition the author of the statement had in mind.
People Are Different Approaches at Life by God.
Let's see how I would try for the meaning of the first and great commandment. And for the definition of the word "God", refer to the statement, " In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God". Word = God. The word was God. Man's relationship with "words" is his relationship with God. So let's see if this definition makes sense used in the statement. Thou shalt love the word with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Using this method of interpretation, the subject of the statement reveals itself as man's connection with language. That would make it similar in nature to the statement telling of God instructing Adam that he should name the animals. They become messages from wise men claiming to have noticed, that in God's creation, man's role has to do with words and language. A conscious access to the past and future has learned to be uniquely accomplished through the use of language. Books lose their intended value where their language cannot be understood.
Some have interpreted what Jesus referred to as the second, to mean, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". What would benefit others most, to do unto them? Teach them. To share with them through teaching. All of God's creations intrinsically teach of their creator. Mankind seems to have been asked by God to become progressively proficient in, and conscious of "teaching". For all the previous generations to share their thoughts with the present, requires the use of language. And to maintain language, requires teaching. Destiny has mankind becoming more and more a race of, a species of, teachers. Advice from those who have noticed this suggest that we except it as God's will. Each generation is asked to progress in its efforts towards teaching, allowing language to increase what it can offer. So it seems mankind is destined to developing his language skills, or get in trouble with God. But what gets taught and learned is unknown as of yet.
All knowing, probably requires all learning. And, might just be what God has each person, in each and every generation, helping him achieve.
Alan
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Wed, 2008-02-06 17:50
#30
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Wed, 2008-02-06 18:31
#31
Maysie
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Wed, 2008-02-06 18:40
#32
Maysie
Jesus in bed.
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Thu, 2008-02-07 03:19
#33
AIGH! Jesus looks like that tadpole baby-thingy in Eraserhead!
Thu, 2008-02-07 03:26
#34
Maysie
Actually, if you look at the rat that Joseph is shooing away from the manger with a broom, it's bigger than the baby Jesus' head! Now [b]that's[/b] scary! [img]eek.gif" border="0[/img]
Thu, 2008-02-07 10:32
#35
You know I did a universe entirely of Lego back in one of the pre big bang realities. It was really cool for a while, but let me tell you, a Lego universe where there is also sentient life with free will can get pretty weird.
Thu, 2008-02-07 12:31
#36
Maysie
Ah, but GOD, do you have pics? [img]tongue.gif" border="0[/img]
Thu, 2008-02-07 13:25
#37
Well, there was one civilization that took physics to a pretty impressive level.
[img]http://www.abbashalai.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lego.jpg[/img]
![http://www.abbashalai.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lego.jpg[/img]](http://www.abbashalai.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lego.jpg[/img]){kind=link}
Thu, 2008-02-07 18:07
#38
AWESOME!
I guess if its lego, some parts will have to be left out. The pillar of salt stuff, poor solomon's favorite son getting killed and that guy that did the incest thingy at his daughter's request.
Yeah right! that guy had a good lawyer.
quote:
Originally posted by bigcitygal:
[b]Lego Bible Stories. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]Genesis:
[img]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r137/maysiewaysie/silly%20pics/gn02_0...[img]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r137/maysiewaysie/silly%20pics/gn02_1...
Exodus: the Second Plague:
[img]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r137/maysiewaysie/silly%20pics/ex08_0...
[url=http://thebricktestament.com/]Website here: The Brick Testament[/url][/b]
Sat, 2008-02-09 12:27
#39
When History is Missing
To Progress Humanity
Or
A Position in Politics
There's a big piece of history missing in your memory if Jesus is famous for the bed, yet you're not aware of this information. Lacking this information in your decision process, keeps you in the dark, and your educated/uneducated guesses reflect this. How important is it to be aware of Henry Ford and his efforts, his reasoning behind making cars available to anyone, and everyone, equally? A theme in history, a course/directions recommended, you remain unaware of due to your lack of education. The reasoning behind Jesus's efforts toward getting everyone in the bed, should be causing you to make different decisions, choose representatives that think differently. The people around you during your daily activities would be behaving differently toward one another. There would be less of a caste system mentality pervading our society. People would be more prone to include the well-being of others as factors in their decision process. Because of what they had learned/experienced in their history, people would live and work more in harmony with each other.
Because we have become/are satisfied with a society which maintains and facilitates the progress of inequality/"the haves and have-nots", in order that we may become so, history has had to be hidden, especially the parts teaching sharing between all people. Subsequently, instead of some becoming "haves", and others becoming "have-nots", we've lost our link with humanity, history. With our media concerned only with making superstar politicians, the lessons offered by history just don't get the ratings, just won't sell today's products. Because the attention of today's generation has become solely focused on themselves, the really wise, who have been recorded in history, are not able to have their effect, as intended.
It's like going 2000 years in the future, and you look around and see temples everywhere in the name of Henry Ford, but no one that you speak with seems to know anything about the car. Too many people have traded their/our history for positions in political corporations. Rather than studying and learning, this generation has decided to play/depend on politics instead. In order to do this, those who have lived in the past must be robbed of their rightful position and influence, and so must those of the future. In order to see what we really look like, our mirror must reflect the past and future as well as the present.
Would free speech lead people to the truth? Would it have caused the people to choose Jesus rather than Barabbas?
John 18:40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
Alan
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Tue, 2008-02-12 00:46
#40
Er... "alane" I just thought I should point out that, as Jesus was Jewish, He probably wouldn't like being linked to Henry Ford, who was one of the 20th Century's most famous antisemites.
Ford was responsible for the publication of a series of antisemitic tracts entitled "The International Jew", that were later heavily plagiarized by Adolf Hitler when he wrote his major statement of his views, entitled "Mein Kampf".
I just thought that you should know that.
[ 12 February 2008: Message edited by: Ken Burch ]
[ 12 February 2008: Message edited by: Ken Burch ]
Tue, 2008-02-12 03:29
#41
Maysie
[i]I don't care if it rains or freezes
Long as I have my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car[/i]
[url=http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Hall/3288/jesuslyrics.html]Full lyrics to "Plastic Jesus" here. It's a real song! Seriously![/url]
Tue, 2008-02-12 03:33
#42
Must be many versions, because in the 60s I recall:
"Went to the drive-in, it was scary,
But I had magnetic Mary,
Stuck on to the dashboard of my car."
I see they've closed the drive-in.
Tue, 2008-02-12 03:36
#43
Maysie
My favourite verse is near the end of the song:
[i]When I'm goin' fornicatin
I got my ceramic Satan
Sinnin' on the dashboard of my Winnebago Motor Home[/i]
Tue, 2008-02-12 11:38
#44
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Burch:
[QB]Er... "alane" I just thought I should point out that, as Jesus was Jewish, He probably wouldn't like being linked to Henry Ford, who was one of the 20th Century's most famous antisemites.
Birds of a feather, flocking together.
I am aware of the trouble that Henry Ford got into with those of the Jewish religion, because his efforts toward/concept of sharing equally went against/challenged their caste system mentality/maintenance. But history indicates Henry Ford just took on the burden of the cross, followed in Jesus's footsteps. What you speak of is just political pressure from a group trying to maintain elite status. The influences of the elite are more difficult to recognize in our own/personal culture, but anyone going to India who began to practice and advocate equality would run into the same problem. It wasn't really the Jewish people that killed Jesus, it was their mentality, their way of thinking. A Christian is just a person who would be considered Jewish, but he shares. So you see, in order that people live more in harmony with one another, Jesus became Christian, probably so people wouldn't link him with the Jewish people rather than all the people.
elite - 1 [also with pl. v.] the group or part of a group selected or regarded as the finest, best, most distinguished, most powerful, etc.
n. — Syn. upper class, ruling class, power elite, cream; see aristocracy, best.
A person's affiliation with religion and politics mainly has to do with where he was born. Through education a person's mindset can be corrected. But the Jewish leaders have maintain people being Jewish, by not having the opportunity to learn about Jesus/history. The only hope for maintaining religions, is censorship/stopping others from teaching what they learned. It was his free speech, equality when it comes to influencing others, that got Jesus in trouble with the Jewish/elite people. Same with Galileo and Catholics. Those that the elite call/mark as terrorists, history calls/remembers as freedom fighters. Censorship in media, maintains the hope of ignorance in most people, and the social status of the elite.
Many would characterize Henry Ford as one of the 20th centuries most famous antisemites, but those that wrote the U.S. Constitution were much better at it. The question is, why don't they, (you), characterize Henry Ford has one of the 20th century's most famous advocates of freedom and equality, as an educated person would? It's an easy one to answer.
I remember a news report interviewing an Israeli farmer who was complaining because the roadblocks were keeping Palestinian farmworkers from being available to him, and he was having to get his workers from India. The lower caste from India seem to make better laborers for them than the Palestinians, or their fellow countryman. And we find that the upper caste from India are useful as doctors, to help perpetuate what is becoming more and more an elite profession.
The struggle for equality is against the elite, no matter what name tag they wear today. Their fruits are inequality rather than equality. War, rather than peace.
Alan
Tue, 2008-02-12 11:44
#45
quote:
Originally posted by alanejackson:
[b]It wasn't really the Jewish people that killed Jesus, it was their mentality, their way of thinking.[/b]
He was guilty as sin. Charged, tried, convicted, sentenced. And I'm told He came back for more.
quote:
[b]A Christian is just a person who would be considered Jewish, but he shares. [/b]
Shares what - toxic waste?
[ 12 February 2008: Message edited by: unionist ]
Tue, 2008-02-12 11:52
#46
quote:
Originally posted by alanejackson:
It wasn't really the Jewish people that killed Jesus, it was their mentality, their way of thinking.
Well, I heard it was the Romans. So, really, all these centuries, Christians should have been persecuting and murdering Italians [img]frown.gif" border="0[/img]
There were people who were responsible for Jesus' death; more fundamentally, there were social, economic, and political structures that were responsible for Jesus' death. (I'm talking about imperial structures and client elites.) But it doesn't make sense to say that "a people" was responsible for his death.
[ 12 February 2008: Message edited by: RosaL ]
Tue, 2008-02-12 12:39
#47
Okay, I've been pretty much ignoring this thread, and I was fine with the amusement that alanejackson provided here.
But that last post is full of some pretty offensive characterizations of Jewish people, such as:
quote:
I am aware of the trouble that Henry Ford got into with those of the Jewish religion, because his efforts toward/concept of sharing equally went against/challenged their caste system mentality/maintenance.
and
quote:
A Christian is just a person who would be considered Jewish, but he shares.
and
quote:
It wasn't really the Jewish people that killed Jesus, it was their mentality, their way of thinking.
Not to mention his association of Jewish people with "the elite" and then saying that "the struggle for equality is against the elite, no matter what name tag they wear today."
So, I think it's probably time for Alan to go back to his own web site and post that stuff there if he wants to. He won't be posting any more of it here.
Tue, 2008-02-12 14:26
#48
quote:
Originally posted by RosaL:
[b]Well, I heard it was the Romans. So, really, all these centuries, Christians should have been persecuting and murdering Italians [img]frown.gif" border="0[/img]
There were people who were responsible for Jesus' death; more fundamentally, there were social, economic, and political structures that were responsible for Jesus' death. (I'm talking about imperial structures and client elites.) But it doesn't make sense to say that "a people" was responsible for his death.[/b]
RosaL, the proper response to the charge: "The Jews killed Jesus!" is not: "No, they didn't!"
But thanks for sticking up for us Jews anyways...
Tue, 2008-02-12 14:32
#49
remind
There is no proof that a man named Jesus existed, in fact there is more proof that he didn't. Any charges that someone, namely "Jews" killed him were/are only IMV, a bogus charge that started, allowed, and furthered acts of hate against Jews to occur.
Tue, 2008-02-12 18:08
#50
quote:
Originally posted by unionist:
[b]RosaL, the proper response to the charge: "The Jews killed Jesus!" is not: "No, they didn't!"
[/b]
...Really? I always thought it was "NO. It was Colonel Mustard in the library with a dagger."
Tue, 2008-02-12 18:16
#51
quote:
"NO. It was Colonel Mustard in the library with a dagger."
How that this has been solved to the satisfaction of everyone who matters, I question the need to keep the thread open. It was a bit whacked from the get go, and to turn it into a banter thread offends the gravity of why the original poster was banned.
Besides, some moron caused sidescroll with a big picture. Say goodnight folks!