Who Should Replace Howard Hampton?
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:12
#1
Who Should Replace Howard Hampton?
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:12
#2
My Pick is Peter Kormos but what do youall think.
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:12
#3
My Pick is Peter Kormos but what do youall think.
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:14
#4
I think this should be in the Central forum as Hampton is not a national leader.
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:14
#5
I think this should be in the Central forum as Hampton is not a national leader.
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:18
#6
Yes it should be moved, but that said I think Peggy Nash should now open the door for a run for the leadership.
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:18
#7
Yes it should be moved, but that said I think Peggy Nash should now open the door for a run for the leadership.
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:32
#8
fair nuff moving it on over!
Wed, 2008-10-15 15:32
#9
fair nuff moving it on over!
Wed, 2008-10-15 16:04
#10
Kormos isn't going to run.
Wed, 2008-10-15 16:04
#11
Kormos isn't going to run.
Wed, 2008-10-15 16:53
#12
Peggy Nash.
Wed, 2008-10-15 16:53
#13
Peggy Nash.
Wed, 2008-10-15 19:52
#14
I think she'd make a good ONDP leader...I guess she could run in Davenport.
Wed, 2008-10-15 19:52
#15
I think she'd make a good ONDP leader...I guess she could run in Davenport.
Wed, 2008-10-15 19:56
#16
She's a woman. She's a trade unionist. She champions progressive causes. I'll bet she could make peace with the CAW.
Ok, come on, let's go here. I'm a foreigner. It's up to you Ontarians. Would a letter-writing campaign be in order, asking her to run?
Wed, 2008-10-15 19:56
#17
She's a woman. She's a trade unionist. She champions progressive causes. I'll bet she could make peace with the CAW.
Ok, come on, let's go here. I'm a foreigner. It's up to you Ontarians. Would a letter-writing campaign be in order, asking her to run?
Wed, 2008-10-15 20:04
#18
Unfortunately she was defeated but it's not the end of the world. Maybe a "Draft Peggy" movement isn't a bad idea.
I know I'll get the usual accusal of being "a single-issue voter and this divides the working class" but I wonder if she'd support abolishing Catholic school funding.
Wed, 2008-10-15 20:04
#19
Unfortunately she was defeated but it's not the end of the world. Maybe a "Draft Peggy" movement isn't a bad idea.
I know I'll get the usual accusal of being "a single-issue voter and this divides the working class" but I wonder if she'd support abolishing Catholic school funding.
Wed, 2008-10-15 21:14
#20
The fact that she was defeated is why this is a good idea. If Peggy Nash had been re-elected she would almost certainly have wanted to stay in federal politics and it would have looked really bad to run for ONDP leader just weeks after running for re-election federally.
Now she is a free agent and I find her a lot more attractive than any of the other people running.
Wed, 2008-10-15 21:14
#21
The fact that she was defeated is why this is a good idea. If Peggy Nash had been re-elected she would almost certainly have wanted to stay in federal politics and it would have looked really bad to run for ONDP leader just weeks after running for re-election federally.
Now she is a free agent and I find her a lot more attractive than any of the other people running.
Wed, 2008-10-15 21:21
#22
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Palmerston:
[b]Unfortunately she was defeated but it's not the end of the world. [/b]
Harper was defeated in the 1988 election, but apparently he made a comeback.
Wed, 2008-10-15 21:21
#23
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Palmerston:
[b]Unfortunately she was defeated but it's not the end of the world. [/b]
Harper was defeated in the 1988 election, but apparently he made a comeback.
Thu, 2008-10-16 06:33
#24
No, Harper didn't run in 1988
Thu, 2008-10-16 06:33
#25
No, Harper didn't run in 1988
Thu, 2008-10-16 08:22
#26
Jack Layton ran many a time and lost, so having a history of winning really isn't a prerequisite.
Thu, 2008-10-16 08:22
#27
Jack Layton ran many a time and lost, so having a history of winning really isn't a prerequisite.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:03
#28
quote:
Originally posted by Stockholm:
[b]No, Harper didn't run in 1988[/b]
Actually, he ran against a PC MP who was his old boss in Calgary West. But he went by Steve Harper in those days
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:03
#29
quote:
Originally posted by Stockholm:
[b]No, Harper didn't run in 1988[/b]
Actually, he ran against a PC MP who was his old boss in Calgary West. But he went by Steve Harper in those days
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:09
#30
I think a draft Koprmos campaign would still be ok as Peggy isnt running either. that said I would put Nash as my number one in the event she runs as Kormos actually seems uninterested. whos up for letter writing Ms.Nash lets organize people unless a better alternative comes up in this board.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:09
#31
I think a draft Koprmos campaign would still be ok as Peggy isnt running either. that said I would put Nash as my number one in the event she runs as Kormos actually seems uninterested. whos up for letter writing Ms.Nash lets organize people unless a better alternative comes up in this board.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:16
#32
Tabuns. no question.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:16
#33
Tabuns. no question.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:24
#34
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Palmerston:
[b]I think she'd make a good ONDP leader...I guess she could run in Davenport.[/b]
She could...but Ferreira made amazing inroads here during the last provincial election. He reduced Tony Ruprecht from 58% of the vote in 2003 to 42% in 2007. Not bad! And now that he's run in a couple of elections, he has name recognition. (I'm not sure how he did in the federal election, but Mario Silva isn't as weak a candidate as Ruprecht.)
Also, for some reason, I think the Davenport NDP have this idea that they just have to have someone with a Portuguese last name. Personally I've always thought it was kind of racist/ethnocentric to assume that people of a certain background will only vote for people of the same background. But that seems to be the prevailing wisdom in this riding. I personally don't agree with that, but I think that she might not get the nomination for that reason.
[ 16 October 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:24
#35
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Palmerston:
[b]I think she'd make a good ONDP leader...I guess she could run in Davenport.[/b]
She could...but Ferreira made amazing inroads here during the last provincial election. He reduced Tony Ruprecht from 58% of the vote in 2003 to 42% in 2007. Not bad! And now that he's run in a couple of elections, he has name recognition. (I'm not sure how he did in the federal election, but Mario Silva isn't as weak a candidate as Ruprecht.)
Also, for some reason, I think the Davenport NDP have this idea that they just have to have someone with a Portuguese last name. Personally I've always thought it was kind of racist/ethnocentric to assume that people of a certain background will only vote for people of the same background. But that seems to be the prevailing wisdom in this riding. I personally don't agree with that, but I think that she might not get the nomination for that reason.
[ 16 October 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:28
#36
I suggest a franco-Ontarian this time: Gilles Bisson. Smart, serene, dedicated and unafraid of hard work, like all NDPers [img]smile.gif" border="0[/img] PLUS he is parfaitement bilingual.
I would also mention France Gelinas, albeit less experienced.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:28
#37
I suggest a franco-Ontarian this time: Gilles Bisson. Smart, serene, dedicated and unafraid of hard work, like all NDPers [img]smile.gif" border="0[/img] PLUS he is parfaitement bilingual.
I would also mention France Gelinas, albeit less experienced.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:29
#38
Yeah, let's draft Kormos. Then perhaps he can hold [url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=002155&p=... Supremacy Party prayer meetings[/url] instead of caucus meetings.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:29
#39
Yeah, let's draft Kormos. Then perhaps he can hold [url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=002155&p=... Supremacy Party prayer meetings[/url] instead of caucus meetings.
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:46
#40
I hear Bill Murdoch is looking for a party. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]
Thu, 2008-10-16 09:46
#41
I hear Bill Murdoch is looking for a party. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]
Thu, 2008-10-16 10:26
#42
quote:
Originally posted by Bookish Agrarian:
[b]I hear Bill Murdoch is looking for a party. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [/b]
As long as he's aware that it's BYOB.
Thu, 2008-10-16 10:26
#43
quote:
Originally posted by Bookish Agrarian:
[b]I hear Bill Murdoch is looking for a party. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [/b]
As long as he's aware that it's BYOB.
Thu, 2008-10-16 11:05
#44
I admit that suupport for the lords prayer in legislature is a regressive and plainly unintelligent thing (as is any belief in the invisible man who hear us all mutter into his ear at once as we go to bed) but honestly if this is what is on Kormos record to attack I think he still viable but Peggy Nash is still my pick as Kormos letter writing has garnered me response letters that seem unfavorable.
Thu, 2008-10-16 11:05
#45
I admit that suupport for the lords prayer in legislature is a regressive and plainly unintelligent thing (as is any belief in the invisible man who hear us all mutter into his ear at once as we go to bed) but honestly if this is what is on Kormos record to attack I think he still viable but Peggy Nash is still my pick as Kormos letter writing has garnered me response letters that seem unfavorable.
Thu, 2008-10-16 13:04
#46
Why is it that the two old line parties can field pre-programmed robots with all the personality of boiled kleenex, like Harris and McGuinty, and still win phony majorities? I don't believe their minority support bases examine the party leaders' credentials all that closely. People vote for brand names not labels. NDP needs money to campaign with in between elections, and fair voting in Ontario. McGuinty is a 22% tin pot who made two public appearances during the campaign. McGuinty is "ZardOz" behind a curtain. He's very beatable.
Thu, 2008-10-16 13:04
#47
Why is it that the two old line parties can field pre-programmed robots with all the personality of boiled kleenex, like Harris and McGuinty, and still win phony majorities? I don't believe their minority support bases examine the party leaders' credentials all that closely. People vote for brand names not labels. NDP needs money to campaign with in between elections, and fair voting in Ontario. McGuinty is a 22% tin pot who made two public appearances during the campaign. McGuinty is "ZardOz" behind a curtain. He's very beatable.
Thu, 2008-10-16 20:44
#48
Sign me up for the "Draft Peggy Nash" club.
Thu, 2008-10-16 20:44
#49
Sign me up for the "Draft Peggy Nash" club.
Fri, 2008-10-17 22:10
#50
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
She could...but Ferreira made amazing inroads here during the last provincial election. He reduced Tony Ruprecht from 58% of the vote in 2003 to 42% in 2007.
How much of the reduction of Ruprecht's vote was actually because of Ruprecht? Ferreira didn't do all that well federally, faring worse than Gord Perks.
Fri, 2008-10-17 22:10
#51
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
She could...but Ferreira made amazing inroads here during the last provincial election. He reduced Tony Ruprecht from 58% of the vote in 2003 to 42% in 2007.
How much of the reduction of Ruprecht's vote was actually because of Ruprecht? Ferreira didn't do all that well federally, faring worse than Gord Perks.