13 new Liberal MPs

The only one of these that I even remotely expect to see anything really positive from is Oliphant, since he's a gay United Church minister with a half-decent record of social justice work.

Though I do realize that I'm likely to be disappointed...after all, he's a Liberal! [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

Thu, 2008-10-16 16:04

#11

asterix

The only one of these that I even remotely expect to see anything really positive from is Oliphant, since he's a gay United Church minister with a half-decent record of social justice work.

Though I do realize that I'm likely to be disappointed...after all, he's a Liberal! [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

Thu, 2008-10-16 16:07

#12

largeheartedboy

The Liberals could have done a lot worse than Frank Valeriote in Guelph. From a brief meeting with him and intelligence from my sources in Guelph, I think he's fundamentally a decent guy. Also, as he repeatedly talked about the need for progressive voters to stop Harper's agenda, I think he also might be open to becoming another rare Liberal MP that supports PR.

Thu, 2008-10-16 16:07

#13

largeheartedboy

The Liberals could have done a lot worse than Frank Valeriote in Guelph. From a brief meeting with him and intelligence from my sources in Guelph, I think he's fundamentally a decent guy. Also, as he repeatedly talked about the need for progressive voters to stop Harper's agenda, I think he also might be open to becoming another rare Liberal MP that supports PR.

Thu, 2008-10-16 16:32

#14

Politics101

If I count this right from the photos posted here the Liberals have 6 women out of the 13 newly elected and the NDP got 4 women out of there 12 newly elected.

Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.

Thu, 2008-10-16 16:32

#15

Politics101

If I count this right from the photos posted here the Liberals have 6 women out of the 13 newly elected and the NDP got 4 women out of there 12 newly elected.

Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.

Thu, 2008-10-16 20:48

#16

A_J

quote:

Originally posted by Politics101:
[b]If I count this right from the photos posted here the Liberals have 6 women out of the 13 newly elected and the NDP got 4 women out of there 12 newly elected.
Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.[/b]

[url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=008036]Sh... Plug[/url]

Thu, 2008-10-16 20:48

#17

A_J

quote:

Originally posted by Politics101:
[b]If I count this right from the photos posted here the Liberals have 6 women out of the 13 newly elected and the NDP got 4 women out of there 12 newly elected.
Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.[/b]

[url=http://www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=008036]Sh... Plug[/url]

Fri, 2008-10-17 01:09

#18

adma

quote:

Originally posted by Politics101:
[b]Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.[/b]

You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose

Fri, 2008-10-17 01:09

#19

adma

quote:

Originally posted by Politics101:
[b]Anyone got any stats on how many of the news Cons and Bloc are female.[/b]

You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose

Fri, 2008-10-17 07:42

#20

Politics101

Thanks AJ - I found the answer in that thread after I posted the question here.

Fri, 2008-10-17 07:42

#21

Politics101

Thanks AJ - I found the answer in that thread after I posted the question here.

Fri, 2008-10-17 09:29

#22

montrealais

quote:

Originally posted by adma:
[b]
You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose[/b]

That was completely unnecessary and I think rather insulting to many of us.

Fri, 2008-10-17 09:29

#23

montrealais

quote:

Originally posted by adma:
[b]
You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose[/b]

That was completely unnecessary and I think rather insulting to many of us.

Fri, 2008-10-17 11:37

#24

A political

quote:

Originally posted by adma:
[b]
You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose[/b]

I am quite often disappointed by those of you on the left. You talk a good game, but you are less progressive then those on the right!

Fri, 2008-10-17 11:37

#25

A political

quote:

Originally posted by adma:
[b]
You can't tell unless you unzip their pants, or unless you verify any J. Edgar Hoover tendencies, I suppose[/b]

I am quite often disappointed by those of you on the left. You talk a good game, but you are less progressive then those on the right!

Fri, 2008-10-17 11:52

#26

It's Me D

quote:

You talk a good game, but you are less progressive then those on the right!

1) this is an online forum, all that happens here [b]is[/b] talk.

2) what about adma being flippant makes the left un-progressive???

3) even if adma's comment [b]was[/b] enough to somehow throw the left's claim to "progressiveness" out the window; why does that make the right more progressive???

I've obviously missed something! [img]tongue.gif" border="0[/img]

[ 17 October 2008: Message edited by: It's Me D ]

Fri, 2008-10-17 11:52

#27

It's Me D

quote:

You talk a good game, but you are less progressive then those on the right!

1) this is an online forum, all that happens here [b]is[/b] talk.

2) what about adma being flippant makes the left un-progressive???

3) even if adma's comment [b]was[/b] enough to somehow throw the left's claim to "progressiveness" out the window; why does that make the right more progressive???

I've obviously missed something! [img]tongue.gif" border="0[/img]

[ 17 October 2008: Message edited by: It's Me D ]

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:19

#28

remind

Who said adma was even progressive let alone on the left? [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img] And i object to his post as a matter of fact.

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:19

#29

remind

Who said adma was even progressive let alone on the left? [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img] And i object to his post as a matter of fact.

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:35

#30

Mojoroad1

13 new Liberal MPs

[img]http://visual.merriam-webster.com/images/animal-kingdom/carnivorous-mamm...

[img]http://blog.dispatch.com/allcats/cats%20henry.png[/img]

[img]http://www.kittens-lair.net/store/en/articles/img248.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.tvacres.com/images/tom_jerry.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.the-deblog.com/images/Simpsons-itchy-and-Scratchy.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.hamshahrionline.ir/images/upload/news/posc/8509/snagglepus-zr...

[img]http://hiphappy.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/felix-the-cat-poster-card-c1...

[ 17 October 2008: Message edited by: Mojoroad1 ]

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:35

#31

Mojoroad1

13 new Liberal MPs

[img]http://visual.merriam-webster.com/images/animal-kingdom/carnivorous-mamm...

[img]http://blog.dispatch.com/allcats/cats%20henry.png[/img]

[img]http://www.kittens-lair.net/store/en/articles/img248.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.tvacres.com/images/tom_jerry.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.the-deblog.com/images/Simpsons-itchy-and-Scratchy.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.hamshahrionline.ir/images/upload/news/posc/8509/snagglepus-zr...

[img]http://hiphappy.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/felix-the-cat-poster-card-c1...

[ 17 October 2008: Message edited by: Mojoroad1 ]

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:44

#32

Mojoroad1

and finally:

[img]http://www.oook.cz/garfield/garfield.gif[/img]

[img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:44

#33

Mojoroad1

and finally:

[img]http://www.oook.cz/garfield/garfield.gif[/img]

[img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:45

#34

Politics101

Cute !!

Fri, 2008-10-17 12:45

#35

Politics101

Cute !!

Fri, 2008-10-17 13:25

#36

A_J

quote:

Originally posted by Mojoroad1:
[b][img]http://www.the-deblog.com/images/Simpsons-itchy-and-Scratchy.jpg[/img][/b]

Homer - "Which one's the mouse?"
Bart - "Itchy"
Homer - "Itchy's a [i]jerk[/i]"

[img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

Fri, 2008-10-17 13:25

#37

A_J

quote:

Originally posted by Mojoroad1:
[b][img]http://www.the-deblog.com/images/Simpsons-itchy-and-Scratchy.jpg[/img][/b]

Homer - "Which one's the mouse?"
Bart - "Itchy"
Homer - "Itchy's a [i]jerk[/i]"

[img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

Fri, 2008-10-17 13:40

#38

remind

You have to put the missing 3 into another post. no more than 4 per post apparently.

Fri, 2008-10-17 13:40

#39

remind

You have to put the missing 3 into another post. no more than 4 per post apparently.

Fri, 2008-10-17 14:26

#40

Mojoroad1

funny said 8 before....they all showed when i last looked at it.
....

I'll work on the cons next (don't worry no need to do 32 of them) [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

Fri, 2008-10-17 14:26

#41

Mojoroad1

funny said 8 before....they all showed when i last looked at it.
....

I'll work on the cons next (don't worry no need to do 32 of them) [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

Thu, 2008-10-23 21:58

#42

Wilf Day

The Liberal Party uses an open-list PR system to elect their leader.

Each riding chooses 12 delegates, who must vote for the leadership candidate they were pledged to at the Delegate Selection Meeting. If 8% of the membership in that riding vote for Ruby Dhalla, she gets one delegate. If several people stood for delegate as Dhalla supporters, the one who got the most personal votes is her delegate from that riding.

Just like any PR open-list system.

Now, in the recent election the Liberals elected only six MPs from Ontario outside the GTA, while the NDP elected 15. Hmm, the Liberals need PR even worse than the NDP does. And they already use it.

If it's good enough for Liberals, isn't it good enough for all of us?

[ 24 October 2008: Message edited by: Wilf Day ]

Sat, 2008-10-25 05:33

#43

Wilf Day

14th new Liberal MP:
[img]http://media.liberal.ca/images/photos/180x240/16958.jpg[/img]
Alexandra Mendиs

[url=http://www.plcq.ca/candidate_e.aspx?riding=24011]A native of Portugal, Ms. Mendes [/url]worked for la Maison Internationale de la Rive-Sud for 15 year, where she worked her way up to serve as the director general from 1996 to 2001. From 2001 to 2006, Ms. Mendes has been an associate in the riding office of former federal cabinet minister and Member of Parliament, the Honourable Jacques Saada. She is currently a teacher at the Brossard Portuguese school, and is a member of the board of directors for the Rive-Sud Portuguese Association.

[url=http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=09b828f9-d7e9-4ffc-9452-... won the judicial recount by 69 votes.[/url]

[url=http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2008/10/24/002-depouillem... box had been added to the total twice, while another had been omitted.[/url]

[url=http://noticias.sapo.pt/lusa/artigo/33673a7452aa70f7aab75b.html]She is the first Portuguese woman elected an a Canadian MP[/url], although only Portugal has been told this yet.

[ 25 October 2008: Message edited by: Wilf Day ]

Sat, 2008-10-25 06:16

#44

Maxx

7 out of 14 are women. Good for the Libs.

+ Justin Trudeau and Marc Garneau. Quite a strong team.

[ 25 October 2008: Message edited by: Maxx ]

Sat, 2008-10-25 08:37

#45

Wilf Day

quote:

Originally posted by Maxx:
[b]7 out of 14 are women. + Justin Trudeau and Marc Garneau. Quite a strong team.[/b]

From the GTA, Montreal and Newfoundland, yes.

In the other 80% of Canada, the Liberals elected no new MPs, and lost a number of strong MPs (Robert Thibault who did such a good job on Mulroney/Schreiber; Karen Redman; Sue Barnes; Raymond Simard; Raymond Chan; Roger Valley; Charles Hubbard; Paul Zed; Andrew Telegdi; Diane Marleau; John Maloney; Tina Keeper; Don Bell; Ken Boshcoff; and a few lesser known, plus a few in the GTA like Garth Turner, Bonnie Brown and Susan Kadis.

And in Ontario outside the GTA, Quebec off Montreal island, all of the West, and even in New Brunswick, Liberal voters elected fewer MPs that their share of the vote justified.

As noted above, Liberals now need PR. Some have noticed. Others will figure it out soon, as they start voting for leader in a PR election.

[ 25 October 2008: Message edited by: Wilf Day ]

Sun, 2008-10-26 00:11

#46

ghoris

quote:

Originally posted by Wilf Day:
From the GTA, Montreal and Newfoundland, yes.
In the other 80% of Canada, the Liberals elected no new MPs, and lost a number of strong MPs (Robert Thibault who did such a good job on Mulroney/Schreiber; Karen Redman; Sue Barnes; Raymond Simard; Raymond Chan; Roger Valley; Charles Hubbard; Paul Zed; Andrew Telegdi; Diane Marleau; John Maloney; Tina Keeper; Don Bell; Ken Boshcoff; and a few lesser known, plus a few in the GTA like Garth Turner, Bonnie Brown and Susan Kadis.

I wouldn't call any of these "strong MPs".

Sun, 2008-10-26 02:04

#47

genstrike

quote:

Originally posted by Mojoroad1:
[b]and finally:
[img]http://www.oook.cz/garfield/garfield.gif[/img]
[img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [/b]

But that one is orange! Is it Bob Rae, or Pat Martin? [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]

Sun, 2008-10-26 06:58

#48

TCD

14 new MPs who support slashing corporate tax rates, drawing out the war in Afghanistan, no-strings-attached bailouts for the banks, and voting with Harper.

Hmm.

Sun, 2008-10-26 19:48

#49

BetterRed

quote:

Originally posted by genstrike:
[b]
But that one is orange! Is it Bob Rae, or Pat Martin? [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [/b]

Hmm,before that I was gonna say The Big U Dosanjh,
Since Garfield doesnt quite look like Rae, Plus he has those round rims around the eyes like Mr. U's glasses.

But shouldnt he be wearing a red collar???

[img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

Wed, 2008-10-29 18:27

#50

ottawaobserver

quote:

Originally posted by ghoris:
[b]
I wouldn't call any of these "strong MPs".[/b]

Actually, Bonnie Brown was pretty good. She was quite anti-war.

Wed, 2008-11-26 00:10

#51

Wilf Day

Someone thought these pictures were so nice they preserved this thread --- twice???