Election Financing

Wow cons can't be that stupid can they...YEP Brinksmanship won't work this time. Harper would lose an election if it was held today. He has lied so much and been caught so many times, no one can believe what he says. Here is an economist that knows nothing about the economy. I guess he keeps his eyes on wallstreet where he gets his marching orders from. Makes it easier than paying attentino to what is going on at home. Hence all the trips around the world, plus the bloated cabinet. What was that you said about being fiscally responsible. Actually you are right these are the conservatives of old, malroney and harris must be pleased at the padwon.

The power of the dark side is strong in this one.

BTW remind lives out west...do you go to bed at 10:00 like a good little conservative?

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"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it."
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Just to be clear, the subsidy was originally proposed to be $1.50 per vote; it was raised to $1.75 before the legislation was passed so that it would replace the Liberal's corporate donations, and eventually to the current $1.95. I was listening to a representative of Democracy Watch on As it Happens tonight and he was suggesting the Conservatives could have gotten away with cutting it back to $0.95 rather than eliminating it (indeed he was in support of cutting it back), but the measure is part of an economic update the opposition Parties are also opposed to.

Parkdale High Park wrote:

  By contrast, strict party discipline and centralized party fundraising prevent that kind of corruption (Canadian corruption is much more commonly about misappropriation of government funds by ministers, etc.). 

And we've had Washington style lobbying in Ottawa since Brian Mulroney.

Democracy Watch says:

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For the past 140 years, since Canada became a nation, politicians and government officials have been playing a sort of shell game by sometimes strengthening laws, but then weakening enforcement, or strengthening enforcement at the same time as creating loopholes in laws, and in almost every case penalties have remained too weak to discourage violations.

While governments and corporations do bad things for many reasons, often it is because they are operating in bad ways.  Especially when governments operate in bad ways, they usually do not require corporations to act in good ways (because they make secret deals behind closed doors with corporate lobbyists).

LAYTON SUCKS COCK>>>DION COCK!

When did Baird sign up?

 Troll alert, troll alert. P.S. and after the ban, can we please get rid of those posts - they are disgusting.

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Rae is toast. That means if they support Ignatieff, who he said he would support, then Raes Leadership aspirations are over. Besides who on earth could see Rae governing anyone through a Recession?

Jack Layton should hold the reigns, as he provides more stability in Leadership then anyone in the Liberal Party. Obviously for the BQ this is about survival.

Mr Harper is indeed too clever by half. He has no abilty to work with others. I have yet to see a more controlling yet hamfisted negotiator. He isn't as good as advertised, and what this has done is sent a message to the opposition of how he would govern in a Majority.

The NDP needs to come to the table with a Bold fiscal stimulus plan. The Liberals just need to survive. This party is in bad shape.

What I find interesting, is how many Liberals don't want Dion as Leader should a coalition be formed. They are calling him weak.....

What is important is that Harper has turned his back on working with Parliment this term. He has no focus on the economy and Flaherty is no more competent today then he was last summer. Should a coalition occur it needs to be seemless to the voting public and the public needs to be reassured that our economy is being put forward first.

Too many people are losing and going to lose their jobs while the CPC continues to try to bleed the LPC, BQ and GP dry.

Harper's playing a game of brinksmanship. His problem is he's too clever by half and too full of hubris. Negotiations can take on a life of their own and if the Liberals, NDP and Bloc are able to work out a coalition/accord deal where the parties agree to some sort of Liberal or Liberal/NDP coalition government for a year which the Bloc agrees to support from the outside then the three parties could decide to go ahead even if Harper backs down on Monday. The major stumbling block previously to the concept of a Liberal or Liberal-NDP minority displacing the Tories was tee Bloc as any condition the BQ would have had would be too much for any federalist party to agree to. But with a proposal from the Tories that would kneecap the Bloc by wiping out 90% of their funds, Duceppe and co are highly motivated to agree to an alternate government with a minimum of fuss. And even if Harper backs down he's shown himself too dangerous to keep in power.

I would not be surprised to see an agreement emerge for a Liberal/NDP coalition government with Bloc support and a caretaker PM such as McCallum or Goodale. The big issue will be how to handle the Liberal leadership convention. Can the NDP and BQ agree carte blanche that the PM's role will automatically go to whoever the Liberals choose in May? Will they insist that the caretaker remain PM until the end of the agreement and that new Liberal leader will have to wait until a new election before possibly becoming PM? Will two of the three contenders (likely Rae and LeBlanc) agree now to put aside their asperations and allow someone else (likely Ignatieff) to become Liberal leader and PM immediately with the agreement of caucus and the Liberal executive and without a Liberal convention? (I can see the NDP agreeing to an Iggy as PM but balking at Rae)

Too late to put this horse back in the barn.  Harper has been too clever by half.  (There I had my chance to say it)

Na Na Na  Hey Hey Goodbye!

I posted this in the other topic, but the CBC is reporting that the Liberals are going to introduce a non-confidence motion on Monday, and that there is a tentative deal in place to have a coalition government with Dion as PM.

Dion as PM???? No thanks!!!