The socialist case for funding Catholic schools

If you're going to make a case for getting rid of the Catholic schools, then make a case for it.  So far the case seems to be "the NDP should eliminate public funding of Catholic schools as a major plank of their next election platform because publically funded Catholic schools violate the principle of secularism and segregate children on religious lines."  And while that may be a good enough reason for you, that's not much of a case.

 There is no socialist case for funding Catholic schools--but if you want the policy to change, you're going to have to make the case for changing the policy.  And i haven't seen anyone do that on babble. 

Congrats to brother Unionist and apologies./ You have done a pretty good job of outlining  arguments for continuing to fund Catholic schools. in Ontario.  Of course, included in your list were counter arguments, but that is fair. My hat is off to you and I  ill ponder my next contribution ot the discussion

solidarity

Peter

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And some of us think it not very humorous at all that people express  concern for school children at a time when Dalton McGuinty refuses to keep his party's promise since 2003 to fix the funding formula for public schools. It's an issue that's been neglected since Mike Harris' time in the sun, and these Liberals are the same.

It goes unmentioned by those feigning concern for children trying to learn in Ontario. And it is conspicuous to say the least. Charade they are

Max Bialystock wrote:

Fidel wrote:

wage zombie wrote:

  If this is an important issue (that sooooo many people care about), where is the citizen's group website that gives detailed reasons for amalgamation?  And why do people so concerned about it waste countless hours jousting on babble when they could instead be moving the issue forward?

And they have no comment on the chronic underfunding of public schools by an unfair and inequitable funding formula since the Harris years, so I'm not so sure that they are terribly concerned about schools in Ontario or the welfare of children here in general.

Fuck you. 

Uh! We have a "fuck you" no exclamation mark.  There may well be some concern.

You guys didn't learn from Harper?  It's the economy stupid.  If you're talking about electability. 

I don't oppose one secular system, I support it but it is not the right time, especially for the NDP.

Fidel wrote:

Some teachers are expressing concern over so much private money to fund basic school supplies and extra-curricular activities, and that some schools arent able to raise the cash that others do in wealthier neighborhoods. Candy bar school funding is what it's come down to in Liberal Ontario

Don't bring the real elephant into the room Fidel.

Jacob Richter wrote:

The socialist case is to separate the school from the church, just as the liberal bourgeoisie treasure the separation of the school from the state.  In other words, either transform the Catholic schools into secular schools (ideally public ones), or close them down

That might be the socialist case for education. But in the former Soviet Union, Cuba, and North Korea, education was and continues to be freely accessible to all. Accessibility of education is a key socialist policy. And in Scandinavian and European countries either governed by or with social democrats in strong political opposition for long periods of time and at the federal level, education is freely accessible to all in several countries.

But some people have largely ignored the fact that education is not so freely accessible in Canada and especially when it comes to higher education. And primary public schools are not funded on a per student basis as are secondary public schools. Underfunding of primary public schools in general is an issue whether they are Catholic or secular. I've had the misfortune of speaking with too many anti-Catholic and anti-whoever bigots in Ontario to believe that funding and operating schools more efficiently the neoliberal way, and as provinces are forced to do since the glorious 1990s, is really their main concern.

I just wish some of these same efficiency experts would get behind the NDP when they observe less funding for health care and the P3 disaster with hospitals and other infrastucture since Harris and McGuinty.

Yup.