Naw, couldn't be, Fidel's normally a good dude.
What does the ONDP say to people who want public funding for Muslim schools?
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:18
#102
RevolutionPlease
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:23
#103
I think it was a case of more old line party supporters switching votes to the Liberals in the last week of the election campaign.
And I think it was highly unlikely that NDP support would have changed much if Hampton was to have joined McGuinty and Tory and civil liberties groups in forcing school funding to be the main election issue. And apparently more than four million-plus registered voters were not plussed by that political manuevering.
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:44
#104
NDP’s Catholic uprisingOf the Ontario NDP leadership contenders (NOW, February 11-?18), only Michael Prue has sufficient moral backbone to call for a re-?examination of Ontario’s anachronistic, UN-?criticized practice of funding Catholic education.
Ontario should join the 21st century, end the hypocrisy and move to one public school system – and in the process save hundreds of millions of taxpayer’s dollars by eliminating bureaucratic redundancy, expensive busing and underused facilities.
Ontario’s education system should no longer divide children along religious lines, but instead teach young people what they really need to learn, i.e., empathy and tolerance.
Frank de Jong
Toronto
http://www.nowtoronto.com/letters/#celebrate
Ah, but since deJong is an eco-capitalist that must mean the ONDP gets it right.
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:48
#105
And they lived merrily ever after, amen
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:51
#106
RevolutionPlease
You'll need your prayer Fidel.
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:55
#107
But Fidel it seems such a critical issue that it must ignite the sleeping majority to vote, no?
According newspaper reports after the election, McGuinty's Liberals won because they did not support expansion of provincial funding to faith based school and John Tory's Tories announced that they would. Apparently this was evidence that Ontario voters are progressive and want to satisfy UN calls for fair and equal funding of a secular public school system one size fits all.
And these were the same newspapers which reported that MMP went down to "resounding defeat" with just
37%
support - and the same papers with printed headlines that said: McGuinty's Liberals win by a "landslide" with 42% of the vote. Apparently five percent is the difference between landslide victory and resounding defeat in Ontario.
This is a very interesting study in double-think. In the first instance the poster establishes his point by referring to media reports in the mainstream press, assessing its views on who won the election as credible. In the second instance, the poster then seems to be suggesting that the post-election analysis was flawed in its interpretation of the results, and therefore not credible.
It is almost as if the poster cherry-picks evidence from sources that conform to the views that the poster is predisposed to suppor based on their political alignment, and then dismisses any contrary information as fraudulent because it does not likewise conform.
Could that be the case? Either the source is credible, or not, am I not right?
I was trying to validate RP's loaded question. Or was I?
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:57
#108
Cueball
And I think it was highly unlikely that NDP support would have changed much if Hampton was to have joined McGuinty and Tory and civil liberties groups in forcing school funding to be the main election issue. And apparently more than four million-plus registered voters were not plussed by that political manuevering.
Having policies that don't seems to change the election results doesn't seem to have prevented the NDP from having policies that don't change the election results before. Judging by the results, it would seem that the entire summary of NDP platform policies don't have any impact on the election results at all.
What is your problem with adding this one to the list?
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:58
#109
RevolutionPlease
The NDP should be brave enough to see it validated. But I guess you're more concerned about maintaining opposition status.
You rail against the phony-majority, give the electorate a reason to vote.
Fri, 2009-03-13 01:59
#110
RevolutionPlease
double post
Fri, 2009-03-13 02:07
#111
I consider those comments-(Furthermore, any religious institution that teaches its adherents that it's morally more acceptable to rape a child repeatedly from age 7-9 years old than for a 9 year-old rape victim to get an abortion has absolutely NO BUSINESS receiving public funding to run schools!) way over the line . Please withdraw them/
Not in this lifetime. You're welcome to your beliefs, but there's no way I'll withdraw that statement. I stand by it.
Fri, 2009-03-13 02:08
#112
Cueball
That's a good one worth bolding too:
Not in this lifetime. You're welcome to your beliefs, but there's no way I'll withdraw that statement. I stand by it.
Fri, 2009-03-13 02:12
#113
You rail against the phony-majority, give the electorate a reason to vote.
Isn't having the Orange Team in power enough?
Fri, 2009-03-13 02:13
#114
Okay, I think we're getting carried away now. :) Anyhow, I didn't notice that the thread was so long when I posted. I'm sure that it'll be continued in a new one, and the mods are still discussing whether we're going to change the whole closing long threads thing. So I'll close this one for now. Feel free to denounce me for that statement in a new one, everyone. :)
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