Video from Canadians Against Higher Taxes

The GST.  And "Free Trade".  And he gutted the Drug Patent Act.

Things we all pay for today.

I'm saying the conservative song-and-dance about evil-liberals-raising-taxes (which is the entire content of the 2 minute video) is bullshit. I'm saying the GST, a hugely regressive tax that hurts low income people disproportionately was brought in over 20 years ago by a conservative prime minister and there is not a squeak in protest from the conservative cheerleaders such as our hit-and-miss friend, notaxhikes.

I don't know what Tommy's on about. Some anti-Tory commie plot no doubt.

I was just giving a list of the major things Mulroney did that are hurting us today.

Yeah, I'm against any regressive tax.   Realistically, however, that revenue would have to be replaced.

So, with me you'd love being able to buy most stuff (I like the idea of luxury taxes)  for the price you see on the sticker,  but you'd hate me when you saw how much income tax you pay.   But then, in a graduated system with no weasely deductions etc, maybe yours and most people's wouldn't be that bad-- since we'd pull in revenue from new or ignored sources.

I hear the taxes are really low in Haiti plus they have none of those "commie" social programmes, enforceable labour laws and the government only covers the army, police and foreign affairs. Its a neo-lib paradise!

Seriously how come these anonymous "grassroots" (no doubt corporate funded through tax rebates) groups don't compare the standard of living in high tax countries like Norway or Sweden with their neo-lib hell holes.

I wonder if "notaxhikes" would rather live in Detroit or Oslo?

Tommy_Paine wrote:

Yeah, I'm against any regressive tax.   Realistically, however, that revenue would have to be replaced.

So, with me you'd love being able to buy most stuff (I like the idea of luxury taxes)  for the price you see on the sticker,  but you'd hate me when you saw how much income tax you pay.   But then, in a graduated system with no weasely deductions etc, maybe yours and most people's wouldn't be that bad-- since we'd pull in revenue from new or ignored sources.

A high land value tax could cover the elimination of all sales taxes ("sin" and "luxury" taxes included), property taxes, and lower income tax rates.

But Lard, what would they really do in Ottawa with extra tax revenues raised from any source? It's against their second-hand religion to spend it on people and infrastructure. It would be interfering with the hypersensitive free market skunkworks working so well around the western world today.

Come on a [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOOFQ-OTmM] a 5 star prison would hardly be nice enough.[/url] they would need at least a 7 star prison to satisfy their delicate princess and the pea lifestyles. You know Teak Bars, 3000 square foot marble washrooms, a spa made with imported mud from iceland, etc.

Fidel wrote:

I'm against higher taxes, because I realize that if the Liberals do seize power, they will misuse tax revenues.

Yeah, same here. I'm also against nationalization of anything, because that would just put it in the hands of the Liberals. Same with health care and education. They should be private, so the people can control them even if the Liberals do seize power. And fighter aircraft. Come to think of it, government isn't such a good idea. Look who runs it. Maybe that citizens' coalition and those anti-tax folks have a point.

Unionist wrote:

Fidel wrote:

I'm against higher taxes, because I realize that if the Liberals do seize power, they will misuse tax revenues.

Yeah, same here. I'm also against nationalization of anything, because that would just put it in the hands of the Liberals. Same with health care and education. They should be private, so the people can control them even if the Liberals do seize power. And fighter aircraft. Come to think of it, government isn't such a good idea. Look who runs it. Maybe that citizens' coalition and those anti-tax folks have a point.

Tories and Liberals together dinged up national debt to somewhere over half a trillion dollars in the 1980s and 90's. The Liberals then became obssessed with paying down debt in the 90s at the expense of everything else that mattered. They flip-flopped on GST and promises to reverse FTA. Our fiscal Frankensteins in Liberal government put jack boots to the economy in favour of handing tens of billions of dollars in interest payments to private banks, which were allowed to load up with high quality Canadian government debt as a form of a bailout to our increasingly deregulated banks by 1991. If the Liberals werent already proven to be fiscal Frankensteins, I might agree with raising taxes on Canadians. But not to strangle the Canadian economy in favour of feeding the banks while our precious fossil fuels continue to be siphoned off on the cheap by marauding energy multinationals.

Industry Canada and economist Pierre Fortin said that in a comparison of aggregate economic performances of 35 developed world economies in the decade of the 90's, Canada's economy performed "about the worst" And these conservatives went ahead with a secret bailout of Canada's banks to the tune of $66B-$75B two weeks after the October election. National debt will be dinged up to 1993 level in just a few years' time at the rate our current fiscal mismanagers are going and paving the way for more austerity measures by the next governments. This crisis of western world capitalism is a debt crisis, and our two old line parties seem to think what's needed is more debt to private banks. And they really hate raising taxes on their corporate and banking friendsters when the bills come rolling in. Canadians have been there before with old line party governments, and theyre not worth the powder to blow them to hell and back.