We barely even try to pretend we're a sovereign nation any more

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Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture
We barely even try to pretend we're a sovereign nation any more

It makes me want to scream...

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Canada and the U.S. signed an agreement Monday designed to increase border security by allowing the RCMP and the U.S. Coast Guard to team up and ride in each others' vessels during border patrols.

thorin_bane

Yeah I saw it on local news. Umm Mr Scrouge could I have more deep integration in the name of security please. SPP by another name.

Fidel

What's our's is their's and their's is there.

Debater

But is having co-operation between the U.S. and Canadian authorities on border issues really something that relinquishes our country's sovereignty, or is it something that is in the interests of protecting both countries?

I would want to study the issue some more before reaching a conclusion.  If we had the American military posted in Canadian cities patrolling our streets, then I would worry.

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

Is the DEA patrolling our streets not bad enough for you?

thorin_bane

Debater wrote:

But is having co-operation between the U.S. and Canadian authorities on border issues really something that relinquishes our country's sovereignty, or is it something that is in the interests of protecting both countries?

I would want to study the issue some more before reaching a conclusion.  If we had the American military posted in Canadian cities patrolling our streets, then I would worry.

Is the fact their border guards working on our side, even their officials carrying guns over here under direct violation of our laws. We had a few incidents with detroit cops thinking in off hours it was OK for them to be carrying their gun around on their person in Windsor. You know cuz they are cops. Not just some thugs(sic)  They will be serving on our vessels and us on theirs. It's not about our sovereignty, we lost that long ago, it's about the creep of intigration.

At some point in probably your lifetime, we will surrender and just ask to be part of the US. As it is we might even be better off. Instead of being nothing but a pile of raw resources for them to take at will as we are just about now, we could get development. Even a voice. Personally I think we can do better than the crap they have(or we have) for politicians and laws. But if we further reduce our standards to their level, there won't be anything left of this country but as fidel likes to point out a northern banana(water and oil) republic.

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

The sellout continues. At deep discount prices, no doubt. Conservatives love to sell our public assets dirt cheap at the bottom of a collapsing market.

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Ontario is currently looking to buy two new reactors to fill growing demand for power in the province, in a deal worth $28 billion. The federal government hopes that the private sector can make Candu reactors competitive with bids from France and the United States.

So let me see if I have this straight - Canadian taxpayers are buying at least two reactors for 28 billion, with a third in consideration in Ontario alone. So they're rushing to sell off AECL before it makes the 28 billion dollar sale so that a foreign multinational can take the profits out of the country? 

thorin_bane

All the while we are having discussion about the US using protectionist moves for their bailout money? Do neocons hate canadians that much. We shouldn't even be talking about nuclear reactors for that matter. I would like to know if a reactor has ever made money? I mean It cost billions and billions to make them. They then go down in short order. We refurbish them every 5 years for billions more. The risk of them wiping out everything is still there. Seems alltogether dumb.

Rod Manchee

And then of course there's the de-commisioning liability. As an example, there's a reactor in Washington state, near the BC border(I forget the name) that's just been decommisioned and that process is apparently estimated to cost around $2billion/year for the next couple of decades(ie cost not just $2B, but more in the neighbourhood of $40B).

On the other hand, if we all glow in the dark we won't have to generate as much electricity, so maybe we can cut back on decommissioning. I'm sure that's the kind of thing our current government is depending on.