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What would Preston Manning do?

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Sat, 2009-05-30 14:09

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ocsi

What would Preston Manning do?

What would Preston Manning do?

His political career was built around the concept of "eliminating the deficit." Now, of course, the party he helped build, which eventually merged with the PCs to form the Conservative Party, has given Canadians the largest deficit in our history.

I haven't heard anything from Manning for a while but I have to wonder what he's thinking about our current fiscal situation.

If Manning was PM today, what would he have done in regards to the recession and the deficit? Would the old deficit fighter have given us the biggest deficit ever?

Any thoughts?

Sat, 2009-05-30 14:49

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remind

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Biggest deficit ever too, the Cons are all about truth as lies and lies as truth.

Sat, 2009-05-30 15:15

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NDPP

ps: I see Manning was one of those attending the Bush/Clinton love-in

Mon, 2009-06-01 03:15

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Diogenes

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remind wrote:

Biggest deficit ever too, the Cons are all about truth as lies and lies as truth.

And the Libs are ... ?

Mon, 2009-06-01 08:05

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remind

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Asshats?

Tue, 2009-06-02 01:15

#6

genstrike

I think I saw him on TV the other day, he was saying he was concerned about the deficit, but he wasn't coming out against it.

Tue, 2009-06-02 01:15

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genstrike

I think I saw him on TV the other day, he was saying he was concerned about the deficit, but he wasn't coming out against it.

Tue, 2009-06-02 01:30

#8

Fidel

You can say that again

Tue, 2009-06-02 12:42

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Noise

Diogenes wrote:

remind wrote:

Biggest deficit ever too, the Cons are all about truth as lies and lies as truth.

And the Libs are ... ?

Conservatives for the most case.

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If Manning was PM today, what would he have done in regards to the recession and the deficit?

I would imagine not much different from what Alberta went through when Klien started with the cuts...call the number one cause of deficit 'public spending' and take efforts to limit that at all costs.

Tue, 2009-06-02 13:02

remind

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Was speaking with a relative recently in AB, said person had no idea health care funding came from the federal government, and was having a hissy because now it was free for all. Just what was Alberta doing with the health care funding transfers before?

Tue, 2009-06-02 13:24

ocsi

Noise wrote:

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If Manning was PM today, what would he have done in regards to the recession and the deficit?

I would imagine not much different from what Alberta went through when Klien started with the cuts...call the number one cause of deficit 'public spending' and take efforts to limit that at all costs.

Manning may have cut public spending but would he have given us our largest deficit in history? I'm just curious what 'deficit fighters' would do in the current situation. Harper didn't build his career on fighting a deficit but we now know what he did.

Bob Rae was a social democrat when he became premier of Ontario and, because Ontario was in the worst recession since the Great Depression, he reopened collective bargaining agreements, froze public sector wages and gave us "Rae Days." That's not the kind of policies social democrats do.

So I'm curious about what Manning would have done if he was PM today. I'm glad he isn't but we have no way of knowing if he would have been better or worse than Harper.

Tue, 2009-06-02 14:00

Noise

I'm not sure Ocsi...it's hard to isolate Harper without chucking Flaherty along with. If we just exchange Harper for Manning, it'd still be flaherty as the finance minister, no? My only guess is Manning would have brought about deeper cuts quicker...

Tue, 2009-06-02 14:43

thorin_bane

The pm dictates whta is OK don't be fooled. The FM has power, but only at the bequeath of the PMO

Tue, 2009-06-02 14:50

Noise

I just saw the release on the proposed sale of Via rail and a few other 'non-self sustaining' crown entities (who the hell would buy a non-self sustaining entity without intending to rip it apart and sell it off?)...so apparently there might not be much of a difference.

Oh, remind:

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Was speaking with a relative recently in AB, said person had no idea health care funding came from the federal government, and was having a hissy because now it was free for all. Just what was Alberta doing with the health care funding transfers before?

We have 'Alberta Blue Cross'. Until recently, people would have to pay premiums to be covered (most companies would pay those premiums as part of their health plan, and most people would qualify for assitance if needed...I didn't pay mine for 3 or so years as a student). The recent change is those premiums have dissapeared and no longer need to be paid. It's having some interesting effects on company health plans since they don't have to cover that premium any more.