BC Carbon Tax and Environmental Issues part 6

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Jerry West

WCL wrote:

With the Green vote melting away and Gordo's arrogant and sexist performance in the debate, a pro-carbon tax NDP would have been able to take enough additional soft Green votes to win the most seats on May 12.

Doubtful.  The role that the carbon tax played was to deflect attention from other issues that could have made a difference in the vote, probably not so much capturing more green vote, as in energizing more of the voters who stayed away from the poles to turn out in vote for the NDP.

Actually, a pro-carbon tax NDP might have gathered even fewer votes.  It wasn't that the NDP opposed the carbon tax, which was the sensible thing to do, both for the environment and socially, but that it opposed it in the wrong way and let it muddy up the campaign.

Let's face it, the central NDP campaign was poorly run and failed to create enthusiasm in the electorate.  Choosing the wrong approach to opposing the carbon tax was only part of it.

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The NDP needs to put forward a visionary and far-reaching platform on what a low or zero-carbon economy will look like, and why the NDP's approach to reducing GHG emissions is fairer and more comprehensive that the Liberals'.

No doubt about that.  Unfortunately a low or zero-carbon economy will be a smaller reverse growth economy, and that is something that goes against eons of economic thinking and what people have been condidtioned to expect.

It must be an approach that includes strict limits on the extraction and processing of carbon fuels, and on imports, and fairness would require price controls and rationing.

The only really effective and sure way to reduce carbon use is to directly limit the amount of carbon fuel available.  Price fiddling and other economic shell games are insufficient if not outright laughable.

 

 

 

Stockholm

The so-called Green Party of BC had such a pathetically poor showing and had so few votes that its hard to imagine that their vote have been any lower than it was. They got a piddling 8% despite constant attempts by the MSM to build them up as a real party - that is the same minimum 8% of people in BC who will always vote "none of the above" its about the same proportion of the vote as what Gordon Wilson's quixotic "Progressive Democratic Alliance" got in 1996. The NDP could have proposed a carbon tax that was triple the size of Campbell's and i can guarantee you that it would not have drawn anything from the Green Party - their vote was already so low that it coulud never have been pushed any lower. I agree with Frank and Jerry West that the BC NDP allowed itself to get distracted by the issue and they didn't communicate their position well - but in the end I think being opposed to the Campbell tax gained the NDp more votes than it lost.

Fidel

I tend to think that the property parties benefit whenever big business has a push on for scooping up natural resources and public utilities. I think Campbell's is another bought and paid-for government. As far as I can tell he comes off as an idiot with all the personality of wet kleenex. Then again I can't stand phony white Liberal Party politicians in general, so take that with a grain of truth.

Brian White

Can someone tell fidel that the bc libs and federal liberalss are not the same party?  

The bc libs are closer to the conservatives than to the federal liberals. 

In bc we have 2 partys vieing to be the provicial verson of the conservatives.  (The other one is the James ndp).

Fidel wrote:

I tend to think that the property parties benefit whenever big business has a push on for scooping up natural resources and public utilities. I think Campbell's is another bought and paid-for government. As far as I can tell he comes off as an idiot with all the personality of wet kleenex. Then again I can't stand phony white Liberal Party politicians in general, so take that with a grain of truth.

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LOL, what an outright fabrication, especially considering the LEADER of the Green Party is a self-professed Reform Party supporter, so according to your standards, we then have 3 parties vying for the position of conservatives.

So then is one lead to think about the fact that BCers are NOW, right wing thinkers in the majority, eh?!

This means that currently progressive stances are in the minority in BC, for whatever reason.

Jerry West

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This thread got a bit long.  Perhaps the moderator will close it.

 

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