Very often I see newspaper articles of a study and having some experience with this, I often go look for the original source. Sometimes, however, I can't find it. It might be with a journal that thinks it should charge me money for its work.
I wonder if this is due to my ignorance of other fields, in astronomy for example you can't find all articles for free by going to the journal website. But 99.9% of the work people do gets posted on http://arxiv.org/ for free download. As they get posted there before making it to journals that's what often gets referenced on blogs and such.
In my opinion charging money to read academic work is a form of privilege and thus imperialism. Can researchers in (likely poorer) African schools afford, for example this article http://www.jstor.org/stable/2138750 written on property rights in Ghana by a white professor at the London School of Economics.
There is something logically wrong with journals charging moneys. Ideas are useless if no one can access them.
Most students and scholars are able to access them freely through an institutional subscription via their library, and I wouldn't be surprised if researchers elsewhere accessed these journal articles via that route as well (although because of a possible scarcity of funds, not all of the major e-journal service providers may be subscribed to, although jstor is usually pretty standard). Hardly anyone I know pays for individual articles or subscriptions. That said, there is certainly an argument to be made about the value of making them freely accessible, but this would require a thoroughly different model of funding for not only journals but also academic libraries (which is probably not a bad thing altogether).
I agree with Boxman. In my many years as a student I had "free" access to numerous journal databases and academic articles. It wasn't really free, it's just that my student fees and tuition covered the marginal cost to the university to provide that service to me. And the system seemed to work fine. Additionally, public libraries provide access to a number of journals and databases as well. My "cheesy" little regional public library has decent access to journals - academic and commercial. The closest city library has even better access. For $25 I can purchase a university library card in the closest city and presumably have incredible access. However, like Boxman said - perhaps there's a case to be made for funding journals.
There may be a case for G8 student fees or government funding to go up, so that university in Ghana can be subsidized to afford the same online subscriptions Canadian university students take for granted.
Symmetry Magazine-Free For All-By Glennda Chui
A lot of institutions and scientists are realizing the importance of access to information for the general public. They are openly allowing the archives of lectures seminars to be made available for viewing, and some professors are blogging as well as utilizing new software programs for daily thought sharing and some education to boot. See here for example. These youger college kids of course can provide all kinds of examples.
I think a year or two ago someone posted an article about this very subject. (I think it was Beltov, but I could be wrong)
That article mentioned that the people submitting the papers didn't actually get paid by the publications demanding money for access. There's something entirely wrong with that.
Research costs money, and I don't mind paying to cover those costs, and a bit more in recognition of a person's skills and effort to provide the information. So, I'm not entirely against some kind of fee structure. Too bad it couldn't be geared to income. Probably too cumbersome.
Another thing that struck me while reading this thread, is the consideration that Canadian Universities, through various avenues, are heavily funded by yours truly, and millions like me. So, research coming out of Universities should certainly be made available to the public.
After all, we paid for it, and I'd be surprised if government research grants didn't include a requirement to share the results. But, even research that is, say, privately funded is still done on or with the infrastructure of a heavily taxpayer financed campus.
A while back, I was trying my best to advise a person whose Dr. recomended electroshock therapy. I have a negative "gut" reaction to this kind of therapy for several reasons. However, I didn't want to advise on that basis, I wanted data to show the efficacy of such treatments for that person's affliction. If the data showed my "gut" reaction was wrong, I was more than prepared to change my mind.
While I could find lots of pro and con annecdotes, the only sites that hinted at having actual data were only willing to part with the information for a fee. Which you have to pay before you see the goods.
But then, maybe my search techniques weren't good, I dunno.
I can't see paying for data on a therapy that has been in use for over 80 years. In the end, it just ended up re-enforcing my "gut" feeling that said therapy was dangerous hokum.
Indeed, beyond that, standard practice with academic journals is that copyright for a given article published is transferred to the journal in question, such that legally, the author of the journal does not even have the right to freely make his or her research publicly available (as a, for example, PDF download on a personal website), even years after its first publication. This differs from practices in, for instance, the publishing of fiction, wherein the publishers only purchase first printing/distribution rights but final ownership of copyright remains with the author.
Not only are academic authors not paid, in many fields they must pay the journal to print their work. That's because research leading to publication is considered an integral part of being a university professor -- you're paid to be a prof, and part of the job is to publish. Some newspapers have taken advantage of that to get themselves a lot of free op-eds.
Re the universal library, check out UNESCO's digital efforts at http://www.wdl.org/en/ and the resources listed at http://openreflections.wordpress.com/tag/universal-library/
Tim Berners-Lee Speech before Knight Foundation-14 September 2008
Indeed -- thanks for the pointer!
Thanks Ze, you might want to check out what I had to say here.
The French librarian Gabriel Naudé wrote:
The Universal Library is an ole concept and in this day and age one is able to discern the direction of what is happening in terms of information dissemination and how control of the web by corporate entities can have an adverse effect to what is inherently right to allowing people access to information. So if you are able to identify a "niche market" that has not be capitalized by the selling off of by privatizing Governments, what would you like to do to allow advancements in society that does not know race,gender, or age discrimination, as to who shall have this right too, and who shall not according to the cost of?
ON a side note.
So if you are seeing now what benefit there might be for Google, you might understand how advertising and the extent of on a free internet access? One can see how they could benefit by use of their browser?
The save TV process was countered by those who are trying to control the internet? How is one to gain from "free tv" if not from advertising as well? Cost of accessing the portal of the internet. Starbucks coffee anyone, or perhaps a library visit . Or maybe even a Gas Station, or, possibly a hotel?
Ted Bergstom - an economics prof at UC Santa Barbara - has been banging this drum for awhile now: Ted Bergstrom's Journal Pricing Page. Here's an example from a paper he wrote called 'Free labor for costly journals?':
Just nice to see the Network in terms of Web Science mapping as to it's evolution of information freely accessed as a possibility.
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I never thought I should be paid for the academic writing I've done. You do it for the exposure... and anyhow you do get paid, just not from the journal. You get paid by your supervisor, by your grant, by your government.
I'm not for journals paying their scientific authors, that's just an additional cost to pass on to the consumers. I'm for journals being as financially invisble as possible.
Oh, I agree. I do think daily papers filling up their op-ed pages with free writing from academics rather than paying writers is a bit dicey from a labour-rights perspective, though.
Huh? Is the goal of journalism to provide income for journalists or to inform the public? What's the point of paying an amateur to make a hash of a complicated subject instead of running a piece by someone who actually understands the subject?
But it's not *always* necessary to fork out in order to read the scientific literature. In my experience, a google search with the article's title will kick up an ungated working paper version that will correspond almost exactly to the paper you're looking for.
How much experience do you have with google searches that don't have university subscription access (like your office desktop) and all those things?
Quite a bit, actually. When I cite academic writing on by blog, I'm generally able to find an ungated version to link to.
I'm sympathetic to the point you're making: it should be easy for people to read this material. My point is that academics generally do make it a point to make it easy.
Not even close to what I said.
I might also add that the situation is worse for academic books than it is for academic journal articles (which so far have been the main focus of this discussion so far): it's even harder to find an academic book for free, legally, than it is to find an academic journal article.
I wonder what an economist thinks about scientists offering up new perspectives about their respective field?
To be clear, even a scientist doing his summation, concluding in book form, or article, not having the up to date information will always have to consider the addendum for having been proofed wrong on the synopsis, how would they know about Mandelstam or his work knowing full well who is doing what at the front? Maybe an economist knows better?
I can proof this example just to assure that what I am saying has a "basis in fact" and what one assumes by explanation in comparison "to feeling better about," in no way reduces what had been put forward in abstraction. Stick to what you know then rather then by opinion surmise that all is wrong with what some layman's work. Blogging made it ways past what media controlled liken you to hear and see. Faster reporting with "on the spot."
I am sensitive to Ze's point about labor and rights of journalists, in this kind of world, yet I do not refrain from buying magazines of articles that interest. It is something thousands of worker are facing current with regard to the restructuring of society once jobs are going.
......Or books of interest by these scientists for the "up to date in science."
Imagine that for every interest that you have, you spend for a book, and considering the population and expense, how many have this ability to pay? Consider the population then and the ability to pay. Why would libraries be in existence?
The general consensus I think exists that educational outreach is an important feature to institutions, not just for the general public, but for those who are working in others areas other then the trade that they had gone to school for.
For the disadvantage then in regards to living.
How is it this population in terms of it's education and literacy can excell according to the stastistcs of the ability of its citizens, above a global standard with access to information. Applied equally to all countries then with this regard and in relation to the Tim Berners-Lee speech, as a right to expand the intellectual borders.
I suppose that's true, in that you usually can't find them online (Google Books, for better or worse, is trying to change that), but almost every academic book of merit, and thousands of none, are available for free at University libraries which still function as centres of research. Isn't there something to be said on how this research model works? That is, that it eschews easy individual acquisition for a system that funds central, communal aggregation?
To reiterate why I raised this thread,
Personally I have no problem accessing information, as a graduate student at a large north american university, or previously when I was an undergraduate at McGill, it was not an issue. I was fortunate. The fact I am sometimes at other computers and have to wait till later is but a minor hindrance.
I am concerned with the general public's access, and also with the access of people at poorer universities in the third world. It's a question in the back of my mind.
Do universities in small-town Canada have libraries as significant as the ones I've had access to? I'd be pleasantly surprised.
These issues are why I think academic publishing should be close to financially invisible.
Smaller libraries often point to inter-library loan to counter this. But they often charge for the service, fees like $20 to have a bit of microfiche brought in.
They are not available free to the general public. At the University of Toronto, for example, you can apply to be a "research reader". A research reader card costs $150.00 per year. Details here.
Given the existence of the internet, every academic could skip the whole process of submitting articles to journals, and of submitting books to academic presses, and simply publish everything s/he writes online. Indeed, many academics already do this, both in the sciences and the humanities. This is a far more effective way of disseminating your work than publishing it in an academic journal or an academic press.
So what useful function, if any, do academic journals and academic presses serve? The funciton that occurs to me is simply this: they referee the articles and books before publishing them. This is useful as a sort of filtering mechanism (though it has its down side). Surely, such a function could be performed at a much lower cost?
I'm not sure if there are some particular journals you have in mind, but this is certainly not the case with the vast majority of research that I've come across. Authors always retain copyright. That's how things like Arxiv are able to function. I've also seen copies of articles in fields as varied as economics, political science, philosophy, and climatology published for free on professors' web sites.
I know that libraries would be quite glad to see journals made freely available. Journal subscriptions are typically one of the biggest expenses a library has, if not the biggest.
Also, I think the original point of the topic is well made - even though most people in urban Canada may have access to this kind of information through libraries, the fact of the matter is that the people who need access to this research most often live in places without libraries, and it's ridiculous for researchers to spend their lives discovering things that would be useful to millions of people, only to have that information hidden from the very people who need it most.
My understanding is that the only thing I cannot make public is the actual pdf file that the journal publishes. I could make available my final submission and not worry about copyright issues.
And as torontoprof says, the real role of journals is the refereeing process they provide - and referees work for free.
I think that this depends on the journal. For example, American Literature explicitly allows the author(s) the right to "post the article on personal or institutional Web sites and in other open-access repositories". On the other hand, the Slavic Review requires anyone "wishing to reproduce material from Slavic Review" for general distribution to obtain permission from the editor. Thus, permission would be required to post a final submission, or probably even a penultimate version of a paper. As for books, I suspect that most presses will want you to sign over the whole copyright, and will not allow the author to publish the book in any form online.
I am concerned with the general public's access, and also with the access of people at poorer universities in the third world. It's a question in the back of my mind.
There's different levels of "access" to consider, also. The type of academic writting, or communication in these kinds of journals is often written, necessarily, for other scientists in the same or related field. By necessity, the "jargon" might be more of a stumbling block to access by the general public than money.
For example, last week I visited the weather chanel on line, which I haven't for a long time. They've switched the radar map program, which allows you to zoom into a satelilte map with a high enough resolution that major urban areas show, along with highways. So, while playing around with it, I noticed it just kept going and going. So, I "followed" all the way north to a group of islands I've always been kinda curious about, in Hudson Bay, because of their isolation and odd shape-- the Belcher islands. Sorry for the details, just showing the segues of the mind. Or what passes for one. ANYWAY I got curious about the geology, googled it, and came up with a very academic article. A few paragraphs in, I realized I didn't have the time to really read it, because I'd be investing a good amount of time looking up specialized words. Which I will get to. I've done the same when I was curious about the geology of the Bruce Peninsula. It can be done. But I wonder how much curiosity outside of the scientific community is stiffled by this kind of obsticle.
This isn't a critique of "ivory tower egg heads". There's no doubt in my mind that such precise language between scientists in academic papers is unavoidable. But, it's a barrier nonetheless.
Meanwhile, I have been given a book perhaps more in line with my interests.
It features lots of cleavage, and even titilates with off the beaten path subjects like pegmatite dikes. Things like this have always been graben' my attention, through no fault of mine. I'm only human.
.... hopefully this thoughtfully given book which is a layman's guide to Ontario geology will give me the necessary background to take on the academic papers on the Belcher Islands and the geology of Nunavit.
In keeping with I guess what has turned out to be an experiment featuring an ordinary dullard and academic journals, I came across some difficulty today.
While tooling around the net looking for this and that, a site that promised a geologic transect across the Grenville orogen (an uplifting subject matter, in my view) came to my attention. Going to the page, I found it was just an abstract. But the page lead me on to the National Research Council, which promises (actually, teases is more appropriate) "Free access to Scientific Journals". It looks like a promising source, actually, but there doesn't seem to be a one page index where a person can look at all the subjects. It seems to me if you are looking for information on a particular subject, you'd have to click through every back issue.
Kinda clumsy.
Nothing better then to see how an institute is built from the ground up. Some should think the dialogue of Socrates as he went through the city would be there to pull "the best of out of a pupil" rather then to listen as Socrates did too, "numbed intuitive senses" as he set out to hear from the most intelligent part of us? It would by opinion of him, exist in each of us, and yet, some would think that it all relies on just living in educational rote? Systemic nullifying atrophied adults bereft of the exploratory and inquiring child?
The fact remains that the probable outcome of any position adopted from perspective can be greatly increased by the "amalgamation of information". So in a sense "the universal library is a background source for of all possible outcomes" that can exist and exists in term of Plato's ideal. Then, the information had to always exist "out there already" and that we can put it together by being receptive and holding in thought, the lure, and the timing for the next step. More, definitely caught by the Net.
Fish food, then becomes good for the soul? Not a "aimless wondering" in some geographical earth location as to pinpoint some information in geological structure, or too, historically point to express? One book does not make for a whole? The intent, while holding in mind, has it's most appropriate reward as to what is always brought home as the most appropriate info to roost( while the "hens are nesting" consolatory distillate eggs for new beginnings?) Expectancy and openness, has it's rewards
Google search box ready....Snobbishness, or Numbed senses, do not make for an appropriate positioning?
Should academic publications cost money to access? Would you limit the probabilities for any youthful mind that is willing to give it their all??
The presence of intrinsic barriers does not justify the additional presence of financial barriers.
[url=http://www.gg.rhul.ac.uk/ict4d/workingpapers/freeaccess.pdf]PDF article on access to academic articles in an African context[/url]
Former Reddit co-owner arrested for excessive JSTOR downloads
Academic Work Should Be Distributed For Free
Ah, that's what twitter is for.
Som eof the biggest organizations making money off academic publications have nothing to do with the authors, or the institutions:
http://boingboing.net/2011/04/26/lessig-on-science-co.html
The video is long, but well-worth watching to the end, especially when it gets into the subject of online creativity.
Yet another story of a Canadian researcher prevented from speaking by the Prime Minister's office:
http://letfreedomrain.blogspot.com/2011/07/another-canadian-muzzled-by-h...
Strangely enough, I heard this story just a few minutes ago on on As It Happens. CBC radio, for those of you who no longer tune in.
Clearly whichever gauleiter is in charge of the CBC was not doing his or her job controlling the government's propaganda arm.
George Monbiot: The Lairds of Learning
Great article! One thing I love about Monbiot is that he never sticks to writing about things from the expected point of view :)
1 pound for 24 hour access to the Times? Thats a bargain! Espeically considering how much you would pay for a single copy of the newspaper.
The academic stuff should be as reasonable
It's about a quid and a half too much!
LOL Only if you dont like the times. If you do, its a bargain and I would be happy if all publications did that.
Its reasonable
Cracking Open the Scientific Process
Elsevier Backs Down, Removes Support For Research Works Act As Elsevier Boycott Grows
'Author networks' will conflict with the objectivity you 'think' you get with blind or peer review - humans are social creatures. When you are asking questions that are small (focused and powerful), the world gets a little smaller, and folks know what other folks are doing in the field from conferences and collegial contact, so often one can surmise whose paper is who by glancing at the references and methodology. Not always, but often enough to cast suspicion on the blind/peer review process and the cost for the product provided.
In the days of Gutenberg contact between scholars was limited to the local area - research took time to travel. Now it can be practically instantaneous - interesting that peer review remains so time consuming - is often unpaid - maybe that's why it takes so long (agreed Catchfire) because we don't 'value' the work. Plus, in the days of print you needed expensive equipment centralized. Now it is relatively affordable and decentralized - maybe we need to decentralize academe more and create 'public' review and 'living' documents. Vive McLuhan! Vive the revolution!