Women buying more porn - also changing the genre?

I hope so.  Porn is useful tool, but the stuff that big porn produuces will never, ever feature someone like me. 

Women buying porn? This is nothing new. Female-oriented erotic entertainment has been around for quite a while in the form of romance novels. All that was missing is the pictures.

What's the difference between "porn" and erotic art or erotic entertainment? Is it the quality of the product? There is the criminal porn that includes child abuse, sadism, and rape. There is also sexy entertainment or erotic art that includes photos of beautiful people in the nude, romance stories, jokes, and sex education. Some people don't seem to be able to make this distinction between harmful, evil, abusive material and the stories or art that portray sex and romance as a part of human experience.

As an example of woman-focused erotic stories there are the "Earth's Children" stories by Jean M. Auel about Ayla and Jondalar the 2 lovers and their adventures in Pleistocene Europe 30,000 years ago. It doesn't have pictures, the pictures are in the reader's head. I liked these stories even though I am not female.

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Exactly. The big producers are fairly rapidly becoming obsolete now that anyone with a videocamera and a computer can make porn. I expect they may hang around in a reduced and more net-based form based on the "quality" they can provide but they'll face more and more competition.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/ukraine_bans_filth/

Heh.

edit:: other links of interest

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4153718,00.html

http://www.mrc.org/bozellcolumns/columns/2009/20090717041026.aspx

The first one is an amazing read, the second one is...well, it's MRC.

The Rise of Gonzo Porn is the Latest Symbol of America's Cultural Apocalypse

http://www.alternet.org/media/141675/the_rise_of_gonzo_porn_is_the _latest_sign_of_america's_cultural_apocalypse_/

"a culture that cannot distinguish between reality and illusion dies. A visit to a Las Vegas porn convention reveals we are dying now.."

What to say, what to say.

Tristan Teramino's chemistry series is interesting in that it manages to humanize the porn stars in the films (chemistry one and three are best for this although chemistry two and four. Do not a bad job, either) in between each of the scenes in the chemistry films. There are little interviews with the cast in which they talk about the industry and their lives. It gives you an insight into how they think, and generally make you want to sit down and have coffee with them.

The piece that Martin Amos wrote,  for all that it was well-written, well-intentioned and probably in no small part, painfully true,

Does the opposite. Instead of giving us the idea that porn stars are ordinary people, who you could in fact, sit on the front porch with and shoot the shit with, he gives us a picture of an industry populated by diseased, emotionally broken basket cases, and portrays porn performers as if they're Martians, who need to be put in sterile rooms and poked with sharp sticks by middle-aged scientists wearing radiation suits.

I can accept that the mainstream industry produces a lot of bad product, but do we have to see porn stars as bad too?

P.S. For those of you interested in good mainstream porn, try a 1000 words, a porn movie that is black and white and silent except for the sex scenes. It's a love story.

I don't think its dying - I think, like the infrastructure and cohesion of American society - it is decaying and falling into a partisan wayside wherein people think of their own cultures within two distinct realms of liberal and conservative. And porn ain't got nothing to do with that, just the moral fuck uppery of the American elite that is pushed upon the lower classes (who love to think of themselves not as working class, but middle class and therefore CONSURVATAVE). Just like Rome, America, whether the Moral Majority dickwads or some moderate social liberal, is falling apart through an endemic plague of greed, insecurity, overreach, and weakness masquerading as unassailable patriotism.

And I'm an optimist. Oh, and an Optimus Prime.

Remaing "open" to the exploitation (and indeed destruction) of people in pornography can pass as liberal as long as the people it is done to belong to otherized groups whose voices are conveniently silenced by the the token spokeswomen proferred by the industry. So "liberalism" is limited to a context between conservative people and allegedly liberal people, none of wich are used in porn and both of which use it.

A common thread in both Republican and Imperial Rome was each generation decrying the moral decay of society, and desiring to return to the more moral times of the forebearers.  That went on for a thousand years, give or take a century or two.

I think we tend to draw conclusions about the downfall of previous civilizations based not so much on fact,  but rather in context of the real  or  percieved dangers we currently face in our own.

He he.  Just reminded me of something.   My father faught in Italy during the war, and at one point took R&R in Pompeii.  He said the "art" there was the most explicit pornography he'd seen in his life, to that point.

Societies "fall" when the reasons why they rose dissappear.

I'm not sure lead makes you do immoral things, just crazy things.  And, if anything lead poisoning should have made for a more sexaully moral society, because one of the first symptoms is impotence in males. 

And, not all of the Consuls or Emporers were crazy.  In fact, few of them were. 

The nutbars just make for better drama.  They make movies about Caligula, and obscure documentaries about Hadrian, and only nerds *snort* even know who Marcus Aurelius was, or read his stuff. (he said pushing his taped together glasses up his nose) 

In the nutbar catagory, I'd say it's more likely they were nuts because everyone around them told them every idea they got was a good one.  Might explain Tiberius' latent loopyness, and Nero's increadible self centeredness.  Caligula, it seems, wasn't terribly off untill about half way through his short tenure, after he recovered from an illness that might have been meningitis.

Ah. I guess one of the problems with all this is the Roman penchant for cremation.  Few bones to analyse for lead content.  But, let me google Herculaneum skeltons, lead content....brb.....Ah, still there? good.  The remains at Herculaneum are kinda neat because they provide a good cross section in terms of age, gender and social status.   Seems pyroclastic blasts were successfull in uniting men, woman, children, soldiers and slaves.  Anyway, they found elevated lead levels in the men. But not approaching what anyone would call "poisoning".  

Anyway, we awe dweadfully off topic.

Which puts us back on track with Biggus Dickus, thank you CMOT.

"It's an interesting thing...."  

I, actually find it boring.  All this stuff, no matter how complicated we try to make it with books from some sky god or books from some lefty psychologist, we're just apes, and the alpha males and females are using sex to assert their position of power over others. 

It's not that society hates sex.  They just hate YOU having sex.  It threatens the hierachy if we don't do it when and how others think we should. They want to be the gate keepers of your pleasure.  Anyone who tells you different is a stranger to the truth.

That's the boring stuff. Sex is always interesting though.

He had a wife, you know.......In-con-ti-nen-tia.... IncontinentiaButtocks!