Well, it seems she has made it official that it is SGI.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Greens+target+their+first+Commons+seat/1880682/story.html
With May, it would be "announced" [more or less: she's moving to SGI] in a shmooze interview.
But who knows, this might get contradicted.
E May in Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound?
Tue, 2009-08-11 08:32
#52
Tue, 2009-08-11 08:41
#53
I wonder if former BC environment cabinet minister Moe Sihota would like to enter federal politics. Hopefully someone contacts him
Tue, 2009-08-11 09:37
#54
I'm surprised that no one took note of this innocuous little paragraph in that article:
"Earlier this summer, she says, Liberal party president Alf Apps asked her to run for his party. May declined but told him she'd happily serve as environment minister in a Liberal government."
Tue, 2009-08-11 09:54
#55
Much as I know she likes the Liberals, I don't think that is evidence of it.
I think its understood she was offering herslef to serve as a Green. Just more self promotion.
Tue, 2009-08-11 10:34
#56
That's what I meant. It always all about her. Just like when the coalition was being negotiated and her only contribution to the discussion was that she looked forward to being appointed to the Senate!
Tue, 2009-08-11 11:05
#57
The plot just thickens and thickens - she lives her whole adult life in Ottawa, then she parachutes into London North Centre decalres her undying loyalty to the place - gets defeated, then decides to create a fiction that she has ties to Pictou, Nova Scotia and runs and there and says she will run there forever and ever and she would never think of running anywhere else - now suddely she is moving right across Canada to the Pacific coast and says she will move to Saanich - will it be forever, or only until she loses there and then she can move yet agian to some other "'burg". At some point this "whirlling dervish" is going to go SPLAT!
Tue, 2009-08-11 11:10
#58
remind
That the Con biased media, are furthering the falsehoods of EMay's indicates just exactly what EMay's purpose is in running in SGI.
Tue, 2009-08-11 12:03
#59
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Tue, 2009-08-11 12:07
#60
Just a question - but if the point is to win in SGI then does that not mean May will have to concentrate most of her activities in the riding rather than a national campaign? That's assuming winning is actually a priority in a riding where a great many voters will ask the question Elizabeth Who?
And if that is so - where is the money coming from to move her -lock, stock and barrell- all the way across the country and to set up some kind of 'home' in SGI? Surely the Greens don't pay that well?
Something smells here worse than the underlying rotting smell you can find at a farmed salmon site.
Tue, 2009-08-11 12:21
#61
remind
I guess it is important that Lunn keeps SGI then, because May running there will certainly do it. That the Sun is writing so glowingly about her run says it all. They want Green votes up to continue to split the vote.
Moreover, this is freakin unbelievable, could she be any further out of touch with BC environmentalists:
Over a wild salmon omelet at a Point Grey restaurant (she made sure it was wild, not farmed), May -- Green leader since 2006 -- said both she and her party have come to understand the importance of gaining Commons representation.
No, she couldn't!
Morton has called on BC environmentalists, well everyone, to stop eating wild salmon, as the stocks are nearing extinction proportions. This does not mean eat farm salmon either, as they are part of the reason why wild salmon stocks are almost gone. It means stop eating wild salmon and do not eat, and fight against, farm salmon.
But yet May goes on to blithy order up wild salmon in a POINT GREY restaurant, when stocks are down to the tens of thousands returning not millions.
Then the Sun puts this in:
May believes Liberals are poised to vote non-confidence in the Harper government in late September. And so, she's planning to move almost immediately from her longtime home in Nova Scotia, to Saanich.
Her long time home in Nova scotia? WTF?
Tue, 2009-08-11 12:47
#62
remind
The Sun arcticle stated:
The party has shifted strategy, reports May. Now, it intends to pull out all stops to elect its first-ever MP and pledges to keep the leader in Saanich throughout any campaign.
This means May will NOT be going anywhere else other than SGI to campiagn, in our yearly federal elections. Or at least this year's one.
She also says in the article Lunn is vulnerable, yes he is, but not with her running.
Indeed the Sun states SGI is a reasonable choice for her to run in, um, no it isn't. Unless of course it is to keep Lunn in place, as only in that framework, does it remain reasonable as a decision.
In order for her to win she would have to pull off a big coalition with the NDP, and never breath a word of Liberal support. Neither of which will happen, she has already stated she would participate in a Liberal government as environmental minister.
Hello, Renee Hetherington has better envirtonmental credentials than EMay does, why in the hell would any Liberal voter support May?
Tue, 2009-08-11 13:42
#63
Well a lot of Green party members, let alone supporters I know, - and I know a lot through other things I do - will be gob-smacked shocked to know that "Greens' have 'decided' that a national campaign is being replaced by a single minded focus to get May herself elected. If May had one ethical bone- and the goal was to elect an MP - then a riding like BGOS- with a top flight LOCAL candidate- would make far more sense then parachuting a candidate all the way across the country to a riding where there is no connection. So to pretend this is about electing an MP as opposed to trying to do something for EMee is not truthful.
What leaders in the past have done is run in the first available by-election (usually self-generated I'll admit) as a test of their leadership. If May was at all honest and had integrity she would have announced her candidacy in the riding right next door- in a province she claims to have such deep roots in. My guess is that Harper would have felt compelled to call that election quickly. If she was overtaken by a General than so much the better in some ways. Leaders do not pick and chose ridings to call home, not real leaders anyway.
How anyone can be fooled any longer by this poseur is beyond me.
Tue, 2009-08-11 14:56
#64
Not to pat myself on the back, but this is a point I made earlier in this thread:
"So far, Saanich-Gulf Islands is still most certainly a possibility, but not a certainty until she can determine that it is absolutely the most likely locale for her to be elected to parliament - a move she has openly stated is the party's top priority."
That's honesty, if true. Is that a Green plank that's a member generated and endorsed? Or is that a decree of EMay's?"
I agree that the Green Party, as a strategy, should seek to get its first MP elected. But as BA and remind point out in their own ways - is this a party endorsed tactic?
Oh, and going back some: Dolby is a good candidate in Elgin-Middlesex-London. With some more experience he'll be even better. But he's a ways off toppling the extremely slippery and entrenched Joe Preston, one of the first New Cons to get a seat in S-Ont.
Tue, 2009-08-11 15:19
#65
remind
Really what May is stating BA, that there is only ONE Green candidate that has a chance to be an MP, and that is her. Hence the sole focus on her riding and of course her. Are they going to drop all candidates given that none have a chance but her? ;)
This ties into the month + ago press release by her at Hy's, where she that stated the GP was unified in purpose now, which is to get her elected.
Wed, 2009-08-12 17:37
#66
remind
Well there can be no doubt May is running in SGI, even though she states that a decision will be made next month, as she is already house hunting in Sydney.
And she is now claiming deep ties to SGI, and "her heart is there", too.
from the Times Colonist article in this secondary thread start as linked below.
http://rabble.ca/babble/western-provinces/may-mulls-over-saanich-gulf-is...
Green Party of Canada Leader Elizabeth May is house-hunting in Sidney this week as she decides whether to run for election in Saanich-Gulf Islands against long-time Conservative MP Gary Lunn."I am so strongly leaning towards running here and I have got the most wonderful response," May said in an interview.
"My heart is here, but I just want to make sure."
The decision will be made early next month, said May, who is expecting a vote of non-confidence in the government in late September, followed by a federal election.
And again a Canwest paper is soft soaping May's move and her run against Lunn, plus Brioney's comments about her running there. Say nothing of May herself making claims that are just not realistically there.
Tue, 2009-08-25 15:33
#67
Not to pat myself on the back, but this is a point I made earlier in this thread:
"So far, Saanich-Gulf Islands is still most certainly a possibility, but not a certainty until she can determine that it is absolutely the most likely locale for her to be elected to parliament - a move she has openly stated is the party's top priority."
That's honesty, if true. Is that a Green plank that's a member generated and endorsed? Or is that a decree of EMay's?"
I agree that the Green Party, as a strategy, should seek to get its first MP elected. But as BA and remind point out in their own ways - is this a party endorsed tactic?
Oh, and going back some: Dolby is a good candidate in Elgin-Middlesex-London. With some more experience he'll be even better. But he's a ways off toppling the extremely slippery and entrenched Joe Preston, one of the first New Cons to get a seat in S-Ont.
In answer to your' question, GPC Federal council passed a resolution to the effect that electing A candidate was the primary objective. Since the council is overwhelmingly made up of EMay cheerleaders, and drones, it wouldn't be far off the mark to say it came from the leadership, but not exactly from EMay. Certainly it didn't come from the membership, because there is absolutely no way for the membership to be taken into account by council.
Wed, 2009-08-26 20:03
#68
Thanks for that info, BlueGreen.
May, I would suspect, has the best chance of being elected. But she must stop flopping around the country. Elgin-Middlesex-London would be another intelligent choice in SWOnt.