Speak for yourself.
Bnai Brith ad foments hatred and trivializes the Holocaust
Tue, 2009-11-17 16:00
#52
Tue, 2009-11-17 16:15
#53
Did it then function as a "service club" of local business people and professionals (its 1940s role) from some time after 1875?
I think it was sort of service / social club most of its existence. Something between the Rotary Club and the Elks. They had "lodges" where I assume people would go to socialize, hold events, etc.
There used to be a lot of Jewish clubs as well as Jewish resorts, golf courses, gyms, etc. because there was a time when we weren't welcome at other places and had to create our own. Groups like Bnai Brith are no longer really relevant as social clubs since most Jews will just work out at the local gym, play tennis on teh local courts, etc. and particularly religious Jews will have the synagogue, not a club, be more of their focus. So it's basically morphed into some sort of advocacy organziation to which msot Jews feel very little connection.
Tue, 2009-11-17 16:35
#54
How large a segment, and from what factions? I had always assumed that a history of exposure to cultural bias and potential threat led to heightened attempts to understand social and political reality. Am I just speaking out of my own experience there?I can't say how large but I will go with "significant majority. Just based on my life experiences in the middle-class / working class Toronto Jewish communities, most people I know side with the Israeli hawks every single time despite the multiplicity of opinion within Israel. They could, and do, spew such bullshit.
Growing up in Toronto, I was recruited to the B'nai Brith Youth Organization (BBYO) when i was about 15. It was pretty much a social organization with some sports thrown in once in a while. I don't recall Israel being much of a focus at all. I was expelled by my chapter after a few months for allegedly plotting a coup against the chapter leadership. It wasn't true but that's how paranoid they were.
Wed, 2009-11-18 08:08
#55
Profit did say "most". Unionist you obviously do not fit into that categorySpeak for yourself.
Wed, 2009-11-18 17:44
#56
Profit did say "most". Unionist you obviously do not fit into that categorySpeak for yourself.
Throwing around phrases like "most Jews believe..." is the same as this treacherous "mainstream Jewish" phraseology. It's an attempt to marginalize and demonize the enlightened and progressive Jewish opinion, not by argument and debate, but by ignorant unprovable appeals to some silent majority.
Thu, 2009-11-19 00:38
#57
remind
Did this ad come before Harper's mailout to the Jewsih community on our dime?
Thu, 2009-11-19 01:38
#58
Tigana
What are the links between Harper and AIPAC?
Thu, 2009-11-19 02:00
#59
RevolutionPlease
Bound to be controversial but isn't this just the way it is Canada. I've never seen reason to believe that the Canadian population gives a fuck about Palestinians. Such a struggle. It'll be easier to stop domestic violence at home.
Thu, 2009-11-19 09:02
#60
The opposite side of that caring coin, RP, is that the "Canadian population" has (to a frightening degree) already been sucked into believing Palestinians are the enemy. That's what "fomenting and trivializing" is meant to accomplish. But I must not give such gullibility and ignorance a name.
Thu, 2009-11-19 09:45
#61
Throwing around phrases like "most Jews believe..." is the same as this treacherous "mainstream Jewish" phraseology. It's an attempt to marginalize and demonize the enlightened and progressive Jewish opinion, not by argument and debate, but by ignorant unprovable appeals to some silent majority.
Exactly. It's the same tactic as Jerry Falwell's "Moral majority" in the US.
Thu, 2009-11-19 09:54
#62
Reminds me of one of my favourite buttons from that era: "The Moral Majority is Neither"
Sat, 2009-11-21 22:10
#63
I still have that badge.