The Top Ten Reasons Stephen Harper Prorogued Parliament
Kind of fun: 
http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2010/01/the-top-ten-reasons-stephen-ha...
Canadian Parliament Prorogued again, Part 5
Thu, 2010-01-14 01:26
#102
Thu, 2010-01-14 01:35
#103
Me too BA. I think this has Brads hand on it. I don't care for his tone or tactics often. Whoever is keeping Layton "on script" needs to let it go. Layton is beter when he isn't on script. Seems a lot more genuine. I was getting pretty upset that the NDP was missing the boat on this one. The new one is a smart move, but may not be if we get the prop up line thrown at us again. The media already did that to us in september or october.
And I still see comments about how it's all the NDPS fault that Martin isn't PM right now. Really? It wasn't his bumbling that lost the lead? If we get stuck with the "They are propping up harper" we are sunk. Or if they don't vote down this government at the next opportunity(cuzz I can't take one more minute of harper destroying this country more than even libs can)I am finding a new party to vote for.
Enough politics take down this asshole. There is so much stink emminating from harper right now, I don't want to give him an out at all. The worm has turned.
Thu, 2010-01-14 02:02
#104
Cover-Up: What Are The Liberals Hiding?
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2010/01/13/...
"Just saying is all. The Liberals knew...
"Canadian diplomats stationed in Kabul warned the former Liberal government in 2003, 2004 and 2005 that torture was commonplace in Afghan prisons. In spite of the warnings, the Martin government signed an agreement with the Karzai government in December 2005 to hand over all Canadian captured prisoners to Afghan authorities, Foreign Affairs documents obtained by La Presse reveal.
From 2002 to 2005 the Canadian practice regarding Afghan detainees suspected of Taliban ties was to hand them over to US military authorities..."
Thu, 2010-01-14 02:59
#105
In spite of the warnings, the Martin government signed an agreement with the Karzai government in December 2005 to hand over all Canadian captured prisoners to Afghan authorities, Foreign Affairs documents obtained by La Presse reveal.
Keep searching this story. The information I have is that in 2005, Paul Martin had drafted a PoW transfer treaty with monitoring and safeguards. By late 2005 when the Martin administration was teetering, then Gen. Rick Hillier signed an agreement with the Karzai government that was gutted of monitoring and other safeguards. By early 2006 there was an election and Harper and the Conservatives replaced Martin and the Liberals. The "Hillier Agreement" lasted until 2007.
As a soldier, I hope this account is true as I would love nothing better than for that "detestable murderous scumbag" Rick Hillier to be as deeply involved and found guilty of war crimes as possible, for all the harm he has done (along with Harper and MacKay) to Canada's and our military's reputation.
Thu, 2010-01-14 03:24
#106
'We Hooded Them, Shackled Them and Shipped Them to Guantanamo' - Interview with Lawrence Wilkerson (vid)
http://www.presstv.com/programs/detail.aspx?sectionid=3510529&id=115970
"Extensive Chaos in Afghan Detainee Management"
Thu, 2010-01-14 03:53
#107
From the University of Alberta's student newspaper:
Harper’s prorogue has us seeing red
http://thegatewayonline.ca/articles/opinion/2010/01/13/harper-s-prorogue...
Thu, 2010-01-14 04:56
#108
Omar Khadr's Plight Part of Canada's Scandal of War and Torture (Rabble)
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/23627
"With the House of Commons in Ottawa shuttered until March, we will need to use other means to continue a vigorous public discussion of torture in Afghanistan. As I've argued before, to my mind the most remarkable thing about the whole detainee scandal is that the debate around it has remained almost entirely de-linked from the larger issue of Canada's role in the occupation of Afghanistan.
So the real story is much bigger than just the abused detainees and the government evasions and coverups: the war itself is a scandal..."
Thu, 2010-01-14 08:22
#109
Well I think it's a dumb-ass strategy for precisely that same reason - why give Harper a face saving measure? Say nothing. Right now, he is doing an excellent job setting his own tent on fire. And if Harper does does exercise that option, we are back to the same mess we started with.
All MP's better be around to say something on Jan. 23 when the rallies happen across Canada. And they all better be in Ottawa on the 25th, like the original plan. MP's who are missing in action do so at their own peril. What part of "Get back to work!" do they not understand?
Because the average Canadian beleives in fair play (that is what has upset them most about the prorogation issue - along with giving yourself an extended holiday). So this move by Layton is in fact rather brilliant because it paints Harper into a corner. It shows Layton to be very reasonable and if Harper turns it down (and let's be honest we all know this is the most likely outcome) it makes him look even more unreasonable and unable to work with others. This is the kind of move I personally was looking for. By the way such a motion would be fairly routine in terms of resetting legislation, except for the part that there is so many outstanding bills.
Any pretence that this is somehow 'propping up Harper' is just bullshit Liberal spin, along with the bullshit that the abysmal Martin government's fall and subsequent disasterously run campaign somehow was because of the NDP. So like Scott I have to wonder where the harsh words about the Liberals playing politics by going after the NDP instead of the Conservatives is.
Thu, 2010-01-14 09:01
#110
By the way...
Even as the self appointed contrarian on this, with the Conservatives now apparently settled into the low 30s range in the polls- I think its getting to be unlikley they can get up into territory where a majority is sufficiently likely. Meaning they don't pull the plug in March.
Even accounting for the fact that was a pretty fast dip, which means that when they shift the narrative the rebound could also be quick. But to first regain the ground they lost, then the new ground they need, all in time to push that button first week of March... don't think thats very likely even if things go a lot better for them than they look now.
Mind you, that only would mean we don't have an election. And thats not to say that their narrative on the economy can't still win out for them in the mid term, despite the tags of mean and nasty and taint of untrustworthy.
Thu, 2010-01-14 09:27
#111
I thought it was a moment in which Jack Layton looked pretty good as our next Prime Minister.
Thu, 2010-01-14 11:27
#112
Any pretence that this is somehow 'propping up Harper' is just bullshit Liberal spin, along with the bullshit that the abysmal Martin government's fall and subsequent disasterously run campaign somehow was because of the NDP. So like Scott I have to wonder where the harsh words about the Liberals playing politics by going after the NDP instead of the Conservatives is.
I like this move far better than the inaction early on. As for not commenting on the Liberal's self serving tripe that would be because it is the same old same old. I expect better of the NDP MP's so I do hold them to a higher standard otherwise they would not be worthy of support.
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Soothsayers had a better record of prediction than economists
Fri, 2010-01-15 01:23
#113
I am thinking that some bare-knuckled, hard-core partisan politics might be just the tonic to juice up the NDP. I'd love to see Jack get angry, like preacher in the pulpit angry, like non-stop ripping and tearing at the both Conservatives and Liberals.
Its amazing what Harper gets away with. Its amazing what the Liberals got away with.
Nice guys don't have to take it.
Reflecting on why I found the coaliton rally in Vancouver such a novel and exciting event, I realized it was because it was organized by the NDP, and by some local unions, and that these good and earnest people always so close to power, but never attaining it, but in a coalition, had the real opportunity to have power and its ability to effect change ..
.. well, what I think I was feeling was their good and earnest desire unleashed. It was powerful. But it was unfettered, unfiltered, unscripted, desire and hope and hunger ..
Where is that now? How do you get it back? Jack? NDP? Please get it back!
Fri, 2010-01-15 01:42
#114
I don't think it's a good idea for a leader to get too angry. Anger has to be very carefully handled, or voters will reject it.
It's also important not to come across as too self-righteous or passionate, because that also can turn people off. It's not an easy line to balance.
I think Ed Broadbent was one of the best leaders to date in conveying the right amount of passion, anger and empathy. Canadians connected with Ed in the way they haven't with a lot of other leaders, and he still maintains that respect today.
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