Is there an open thread already ?
Did anyone watch the interview with the head of WHO on the Mark Kelly connect show....My god it was just unbelievably frustrating. Who is the WHO head? at the pace that he was talking I am shocked that he is one of the leaders of such a mission...
At his speed medical supplies are doubtful to reach to the clinics that need them in a month .My god, he was talking about spreadsheets through which they were trying to match resources and available supplies....My god!
Did anyone watch this interview?
Are you really Mel Lastman?
Sorry, I missed the interview but what you say does not surprise me.
Chavez Says US 'Weapon' Caused Haiti Quake:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=116688§ionid=351020704
"Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez Wednesday accused the United States of causing the destruction in Haiti by testing a 'techtonic weapon' to induce the catastrophic earthquake that hit the country last week..."
Aid Slow Foodprices Skyrocket:
http://haitiantimes.com/view/full_story/5617845/article-On-the-Rise-With...
"Last week, the price of a small can of rice cost $2US. Tuesday it costs Haitians $3.50US. A gallon of cooking oil that cost $10 only days ago now fetches $20US. What will they cost tomorrow? No one knows.
Haitians Seek Cash as Banks Stay Closed
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/21/haiti.banks/index.html
"Bellegarde looked at the closed bank next to the money transfer station and squinted his eyes. 'That's where our money's at, and they're holding it...We need it so we can buy food.' Banks have been closed since the Jan 12 earthquake. There were widespread rumours that the Haitian government would force them to open Thursday, but that didn't happen.."
CNN Haiti Updates
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/21/haiti.updates.thursday/inde...
"Haitian police shot and killed a man they suspected of stealing rice in Port-au-Prince on Thursday, leaving his body on the sidewalk for hours as his family mourned. Witnesses said no one was looting at the time. A nearby shop owner said the five bags of rice the man was found with fell from a truck and passers by picked them up.." [trained by RCMP?]
Bottled Water Supplies in Port au Prince Airport Being Distributed to US Embassy
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/21/bottled_water_supplies_in_port_au
Earthquake Frees Haitian Prisoners from Port-au-Prince Jail: 80% Never Charged
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/21/earthquake_frees_haitian_prisoners...
"Prisoners jailed at the National Penitentiary in Port au Prince escaped in the earthquake. We speak with leading Haitian human rights attorney Mario Joseph who says 80% of all prisoners in Haiti were not charged with a crime.."
UN, US Ask Israel To Send Cops
http://www.creative-i.info/2010/01/21/un-us-ask-israel-to-send-cops-to-h...
"Following a request from the United States and the United Nations, the Israeli Police will send dozens of armed officers to join peacekeeping efforts in Haiti, the Public Security Ministry announced on Wednesday. Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman asked Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch to authorize the police delegation....Last week, a delegation of Israeli Police crime scene investigation specialists flew to Haiti with the IDF's Home Front Command..."
UNICEF: Homeless Kids Being Trafficked Out of Haiti
http://www.torontosun.com/news/haiti/2010/01/21/12556731.html
Unicef warned Thursday that many of the tens of thousands of Haitian children left homeless by last week's earthquake are being trafficked out of the country. Guido Cannale, the UNICEF representative in Haiti, said people with bad intentions are stealing children - even from hospitals and shipping them out of the country to 'sell them.'..
It's the 'New Haiti!'
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2010/01/21/it-s-the-new-h...
"The appointment of former presidents Bill Clinton and George W Bush as key players in Haitian relief should cause the people of Haiti grave concern, if they weren't otherwise preoccupied with survival.
When you see these two coming, their record speaks for itself...
What will happen in Haiti? What can the citizens of that nation expect? Haiti is not New Orleans but give the financial elites some time. They're just warming up. Dubai World is dead. It's on to Haiti!"
Haiti to Relocate 400,000 Homeless Outside Capital
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8472958.stm
"Haiti is planning to have 400,000 earthquake survivors in new tented villages outside the capital, Port-au-Prince, officials have announced.."
Canada Wants Lead in Haiti Reconstruction:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/01/21/canada-haiti-reconstruction021...
"Canada pressured the country's prime minister on Thursday to give it a leading role in reconstruction efforts. 'What I am trying to get from the prime minister is that Canada has the lead on a certain number of things,' [Canadian Ambassador to Haiti] Rivard told reporters. Canada also wants responsibility for assigning experts to help with reconstruction. [Haiti's PM] Bellerive is due in Montreal on Monday for meetings aimed at organizing a larger donors conference on Haiti's future..."
10 Things Canada Should Do to Help Haiti:
http://www.mediacoop.ca/story/2494
"In February 2004 Canada, the US and France overthrew Haiti's elected government, which ushered in a terrible wave of political repression and an ongoing UN occupation. Canadian and Haitian nongovernmental organizations funded by Ottawa played an important role in destabilizing Jean Betrand Aristide's government adn justifying military intervention to the North American public. Here are 10 things Canada should do to help Haiti.."
Words Kill: When the Media is the Disaster:
http://www.tomdispatch.com/archive/175194/
"Soon after almost every disaster, the crimes begin: ruthless, selfish, indifferent to human suffering and generally for more suffering. The perpetrators go unpunished and live to commit further crimes against humanity. They care less for human life then for property. They act without regard for consequences.
I'm talking of course, about those members of the mass media whose misrepresentation of what goes on in disaster often abets and justifies a second wave of disaster. I'm talking about the treatment of sufferers as criminals, both on the ground and in the news, and the endorsement of a shift of resources from rescue to property patrol..."
Bill Clinton to Lead UN Program on Jobs for Haitian Youth
http://www.america.gov/st/develop-english/2010/January/20100121190353SBl...
"Mr Clinton said he was already working on development projects in Haiti before the earthquake and that the cash for jobs program is a natural first step. 'It is really important,' said Bill Clinton. 'The United States has a lot of experience with that in the Middle East, Afghanistan - that it is really important to give young people something positive to do..
On Monday, cabinet ministers from many countries will meet in Montreal, Canada at a preliminary meeting to look ahead at Haiti's medium and longer term reconstruction needs.."
NGOs Waged A Propaganda War to Justify Haiti's 2004 Coup
http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/63/63.htm
Rubbish pure rubbish.
For those interested in the interviews referred to:
http://www.cbc.ca/connect/
Haiti Police Appeal for Help Over Escaped Prisoners:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474293.stm
"In an editorial, the Lancet says many of the international aid agencies operating in Haiti may be doing more harm than good by promoting themselves rather than working for the common humanitarian goal. The Lancet says the aid industry has become too obsessed with media campaigns..
Lancet editor Dr. Richard Horton told the BBC there was no effective common leadership of humanitarian workers in Haiti, as many non-governmental organizations were competing against each other.."
Security 'Red Zones' Preventing Large Aid Groups from Effectively Distributing Aid
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/22/security_red_zones_in_haiti_preven...
"Thousands of well-equipped US soldiers pour into Haiti, there is an increasing concern about the militarization of the country, supporting the soldiers and not the people. Or, as one doctor put it, 'people need guaze not guns'.
Te Trembl Journey to the Epicenter of the Earthquake
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/22/t_trembl_journey_to_the_epicenter
"Earthquake survivors talk about the lack of any outside help as they continue to dig out their dead from the rubble.."
US 82nd Airborne's 'Beast' Helps Hungry Haitians
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100122/us_nm/us_quake_haiti_airborne
"The US military believes much of the counter-insurgency training given to soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, aimed at winning hearts and minds, can be applied to the Haiti mission.."
So by posting this tripe are you are you indicating you believe in this as a possibility or are you just playing the same old boring 'blame the US for everything game'?
Haiti - 'It's a Nightmare'
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_South%20America&set_id=1&click_i...
"South African medics trying to save the lives of hundreds of thousands of Haitians are performing emergency surgery - including amputations with little or no medication - on patios and kitchen tables under partially collapsed roofs, surrounded by decomposing bodies...
'It's the worst kind of nightmare. We have virtually nothing and are having to perform miracles to save the lives of those who have horrific injuries. There is just not the right equipment or medicines to treat people. It;s absolute chaos. We're working outside in areas which are covered with flies and surrounded by garbage and human waste.."
They're likely not to blame but like every other disaster in the last 25 years the American vulture industry will make a killing from this earthquake.
You want America to show the world its goodwill and stop being blamed for the destruction caused by its foreign policies then withdraw all your troops within your own borders and lets see whether other people are capable of sorting our their own messes.
A Wikki list of the history of peace loving Americans. By the way this does not include the atrocities committed by the colonies while they were still colonies. Like the ethnic cleansing of my people by the good burghers of Mass. But hey we should just forget about history and all praise the Emperor.
All Praise Obama
All Praise the Senate
All Praise Wall Street and Its Hedge Fund Managers.
I have no idea whether this is true or not. Neither do I know what information Hugo Chavez may be privy to about this.
I do know that the US continues to research and develop the most gruesome and horrible means of mass murder and has no compunction about killing in evil and insane ways as amply demonstrated ad nauseum ad infinitum.
I also know that sooner or later these chickens will come home to roost. Thank you for your interest.
I would like to know how you know all this. Where do you get your information? From Chavez?
I think its more like an obsession with all those posts. Just cut and paste cut and paste.
I would like to know how you know all this. Where do you get your information? From Chavez?
I think its more like an obsession with all those posts. Just cut and paste cut and paste.
Haitians Dying By the Thousands: US Escalates Military Intervention
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/hait-j22.shtml
"The US-based medical aid group Partners in Health has warned that as many as 20,000 Haitans may be dying daily due to infections such as gangrene and sepsis that has set in, as the majority of the injured recieve no medical care or are treated in facilities that lack the most basic supplies.
There are still thousands of patients with major fractures, major wounds, that have not been treated yet. There are many people who are going to die unless they're treated. Haitians questioned why so many US troops were pouring into the country. They say the need more food and water and fewer guys with guns.."
Nope not from Chavez. You somehow dispute the statement that America builds weapons of mass destruction? This report is from 1998 so any additional cost need to be added to the totals.
http://www.brookings.edu/projects/archive/nucweapons/50.aspx
Just making the world safe for democracy American style. Your Supreme Court just ruled that corporations have no limits on their spending during elections the only limits are for giving the politicians money directly. This is what you want to export to the world and you dare to call it democracy.
And the proof that they can cause Earthquakes and numerous aftershocks is where in those links?
The proof of how easily so many geologists were fooled would be helpful as well.
Stop putting words in my mouth I don't dispute that the USA is making weapons. I just question those off the wall stetements attributed to Chavez and it's repeated as a fact.
China, Russia, Britain, France, and all the large countries have a big weapons industry.
What does all that have to do with Haiti?????? Good grief.
Please, respectfully asked, refrain from making comments on the people who choose to post what they want, and perhaps rebutt what they are posting, as opposed to attacking them. It makes the thread difficult to read.
If people want to cut and past information on something, it is none of your business.
Lots of us appreciate links to info with snippets attached to show us what it says, and IMV you are trying to distract from what was stated, and sfa else. Just like always.
What hardly anyone in North America is talking about: the tranquility of life in the exclusive districts of Port-Au-Prince.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/haiti/story/1439121.html
Discrediting the Lancet Study on Haiti
http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/3057
As it Happens:
http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/latestshow.html
Part I - interview with the Lancet
It is now an occupation
It's bullshit; they're going to forcefully move the poor into a tent city outside the capital, while the rich will drink imported liquors and get hired help to patch up the little damages (or worst case scenario, they'll demolish their houses and build a new one). But many of them went on vacation now that their golf course is a refugee camp and the uncertainty was too high. The people should be screaming for the blood of these bastards, who at best set up little shelters for the poor while they enjoy the comforts of life. In come the West to install order with aid.
http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/402601/otro-lado-haiti-aqui-no-hay-escombro... (sorry it's in spanish, it is a rather good set of images about the lifestyles of Haiti's wealthy)
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/haiti/story/1439121.html
Now that's just silly.
[url=http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17122]A Haiti Disaster Relief Scenario Was Envisaged by the US Military One Day Before the Earthquake[/url]
[url=http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17165]Haiti: Bonanza for Foreign Mining Companies[/url]
Interview with Marguerite Laurent / Ezili Dantò
Haiti: Bonanza For Foreign Mining Companies
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17165
"This is Chris Scott for CKUT Radio 90.3 FM interviewing Marguerite Laurent [Ezili Dento] of the Haitian Lawyers Leadership Network (HLLN]
'There are now at least 3 Canadian companies prospecting for Gold and Copper in Northeast Haiti, and two of these companies have really expanded their operations this past year. Why the rush to start mining in Haiti right now?. One of our biggest challenges is to tell the world that the powers that are in Haiti at the moment are not there to so -called 'protect Haitian Security..' They're there securing an economic path.
They are there trying to secure their privatization their neoliberal agenda, their sweatshops and their use of Haitan resources for their major conglomerates, and Haiti's oil resources.
And so we want Haiti's sovereignty back...
You guys fucking crack me up...
Keep up the good work...
Fucking Haitian PIGS KILL two men for NO REASON!! The entire incident was caught on tape by a CNN crew. The PIGS have the two guys on the ground and then shoot them both in the back. The CNN crew films their deaths. Very horrific. Watch and learn what PIGS do every day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERJVizL71P4
Haiti Quake Rescue Operation Declared Over
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8476474.stm
"Haiti's government has made the 'heartbreaking' decision
to declare the search and rescue phase for survivors
of the earthquake over, the UN says.
On Friday the official govenrment death toll rose to 11,000.
At least 75,000 bodies have so far been buried in mass graves,
Haiti's government has said. Many more remain uncollected
in the streets.
An estimated 1.5 million people were left homeless
by the 7.0 magnitude quake which some have estimated
has killed as many as 200,000 people.
Volunteers in Haiti
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/22/haiti.time.to.cry/index.html
"one doctor used a leatherman tool to amputate a man's lower leg.
Doctors also used a rack from the back of a bicycle as a makeshift
orthopedic splint, screwing it into the patient's leg bones..."
Canadians raise $9.4 M in Canada For Haiti telethon
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2010/01/22/canada-haiti-telethon2.html
'Canada For Haiti telethon a star studded fundraiser'
Earthquake in the Red Zone
http://www.counterpunch.org/morse01212010.html
"Several days before Haiti's Catastrophic Earthquake I received a visit from a man who told me that if I stopped blogging for 6 months, then perhaps my hotel would be removed from the Red Zone..."
Hispaniola, the island shared by Haiti and the Dominican Republic, lies between the North American tectonic plate and the Caribbean plate, which are respectively sliding west and east of each other every year at a rate of about 20 millimeters, a bit less than an inch.
That might just be the cause of the earthquake, not some mysterious doomsday device.
Maybe Canada should offer Haiti sovereignty association to give the Haitian people the stability of Canadian law to attract economic investment and an economic union to provide a market for Haitian products while still allowing Haitians to govern their internal affairs.
A harsh history of Canada in Haiti: Most Canadians are just now catching wind of the evil Canadian foreign policy in Haiti
The evils of Canadian foreign policy or the inability of Canadian foreign policy to prevail over the interests of both geopolitical skullduggery and domestic repression?
My point is that Canada is a wealthy country that can give Haitians the benefit of an open market and stability to rout the elitist class and their criminal enablers.
You mean that tectonic plates move and there are thousands of earthquakes everyday and some of them are powerful enough to cause damage? Who would have thought it.
Ifr people do not wish to be judged by the links they post they should use a little more sense when selecting them, im sure there are about a billion web pages disparaging women, no doubt if I linked to them (not that i would want to) you would only focus on the link and not the person that posted it, sure you would. It's called credibility.
As US Prepares Long Term Occupation, Haiti's Quake Victims Still Without Aid
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/hait-j23.shtml
"...Washington is preparing for a protracted occupation. In Haiti itself, however, anger and protests are building over the US militarization of the resonse to a disaster that has claimed an estimated 200,000 lives while leaving another quarter of a million injured and millions homeless.
From Sevilla, a correspondent for Radio Television Espanola (RTVE) reported, 'There continues to be no distribution of humanitarian aid of food and water. I ask myself how all these human beings survive. I ask if anyone is helping them, if they are receiving anything and the answer is always no.
They survive thanks to the solidarity between them, sharing between families and groups of friends what little they have, what little they can get.."
Mea Culpa on Haiti
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17174
"One of the best sources for information and background on Haiti is the Coalition to Oppose the Arms Trade. I urge you to visit the site. We all, me included, need to know the terrible details of our destruction of democracy in Haiti and our continued complicity in the repression of the population.."
Mea Culpa on Haiti
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17174
"One of the best sources for information and background on Haiti is the Coalition to Oppose the Arms Trade. I urge you to visit the site. We all, me included, need to know the terrible details of our destruction of democracy in Haiti and our continued complicity in the repression of the population.."
Human Traffickers Find Easy Picking Amid the Rubble of Haiti
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/201001u/haiti-trafficking
"In Haiti's unstable post-quake atmosphere, at least one industry is poised to flourish. For those who buy and sell children for sex and cheap labour, Haiti is ripe with opportunity.."
'NOT ONCE' Have We Witnessed A Single Act of Aggression or Violence'
http://www.dominionpaper.ca/weblogs/wadner_pierre/3121
"I have been told that much US media coverage paints Haiti as a tinderbox ready to explode. I'm told that lead stories in major media are of looting, violence and chaos. There could be nothing further from the truth..."
Haiti: Upcoming Elections To Be A Set Back to Haiti's Democratic Development
http://www.dominionpaper.ca/weblogs/wadner_pierre/3098
Congresswoman Maxine Waters' Letter to President of Haiti Rene Preval
Securing Disaster in Haiti:
http://www.creative-i.info/2010/01/24/securing-disaster-in-haiti-by-pete...
"Nine days after the devastating earthquake that struck Haiti on 12 January 2010, it's now clear that the initial phase of the US led relief operation has conformed to the three fundamental tendancies that have shaped the more general course of the island's recent history. It has adopted military priorities and strategies.
It has sidelined Haiti's own leaders and government, and ignored the needs of the majority of its people. And it has proceeded in ways that reinforce the already harrowing gap between rich and poor. All three tendancies aren't just connected. They are mutually reinforcing. These same tendancies will continue to govern the imminent reconstruction efforts as well, unless determined political actions is taken to counteract them.
Haiti is not only one of the poorest countries in the world, it is also one of the most polarised and unequal in its disparities in wealth and access to political power. A small clique of rich and well connected families continue to dominate the country and its economy while more than half the population, according to the IMF, survive on a household income of about 44 US pennies per day.."
'One Step at a Time': An Interview with Jean Bertrand Aristide (2007)
http://www.haitianalysis.com/2007/2/18/%E2%80%98one-step-at-a-time%E2%80...
"In other words, for me the people remain at the very core of our struggle. It isn't a matter of struggling for the people, on behalf of the people, at a distance from the people, it is the people themselves who are struggling and it's a matter of struggling with and in the midst of the people.."
Davos Ghouls to Gather on Haiti: 'a major initiative to engage businessmen in the reconstruction of Haiti'
http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?from=rss_Business%20Report&fArticleId=...
"Haiti will be very much in the forefront of the discussions,' said Schwab. During a special session with the former US President and UN Special Rapporteur for Haiti - Bill Clinton: 'We will launch a major initiative to engage businessmen in the reconstruction of Haiti', he said. 'Where we, the forum, can have the greatest impact is in energizing the business community to make a sustained long term engagement with Haiti.."
Haiti Earthquake: Starving Survivors Reduced to Eating Grass:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/...
"Nearly two weeks after the devastation was unleashed, she has received no aid, her house is an open patch of grass under a tree and her only food, the leaves that fall from branches overhead.."
'We have nothing so we pick up the leaves, boil them in water from the river and eat them,' she says. 'No one has come to help us and we cannot live like this. It is not possible to live on trees'.
In addition to having no food many people in Leogane still have broken, twisted limbs and festering sores which have yet to be treated."
[url=http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/media250110.html]Hugo Chavez Did [i]Not[/i] Accuse the U.S. of Causing the Haitian Earthquake[/url]
Thanks for this clarification Google.
Haiti: Rescue Effort Ended as People Still Emerge from Rubble:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/hait-j25.shtml
"The suspension of the search and rescue operations appeared to be part of a broader agenda that is being pursued by Washington and the UN, which is aimed at shifting the focus from the immediate catastrophe confronting millions of Haitians to a rebuilding effort that will be driven and subordinated to profit interests..
Haiti's prime minister Jean Max Bellerive, went further, charging Saturday that 90 percent of the people in the camps have received no aid whatsoever.."
Occupation In Humanitarian Clothing
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/24
"Everything you need to know about the US and effort to assist Haiti in the wake of the catasrophic earthquake can be summed up by Secretary of State Hilary Clinton's touchdown in Port au Prince on Saturday, January 16: they shut down the airport for 3 hours surrounding her arrival for 'security' reasons, which meant no aid flight cold come in during those critical hours.
If this was one day when the Haitian people needed aid to flow all day long, last Saturdy was it because the people trapped underneath the rubble on Tuesday evening couldn't survive much beyond this without water..
according to airport personnel that I spoke to during my recent evacuation from Haiti, she paralyzed the airport later that same day to have a new outfit flown in from the Domincan Republic.
I guess for America's rulers a new pantsuit is more valuable then the lives of the poor.."
Haiti Relief Lacks Leadership, says Italian Expert
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8478130.stm
"Guido Bertolasco, the head of Italy's civil protection service, said there was a lack of leadership in the international aid operation. He also criticized US forces in Haiti, saying troops had no training in running a relief operation. Mr. Bertolasco, who arrived in Haiti on Friday, described it as "a terrible situation that could have been managed much better.."
Haiti Talks in Montreal Focus on Rebuilding
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/01/24/haiti-montreal-talks.html
Hillary Clinton and other world leaders meet today in Montreal on Haiti
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