What has the CBC become under endless Liberal and Conservative Governance ?

I think for the most part the CBC sucks up to the boss.   Listening closely in the lead up to the first Harper minority, you could hear the tone change and then the topic and speaker selection change as Harper rose in the polls.   It was both funny and pathetic. 

And yes, the NDP is always the but of jokes on the CBC, as if the Conservatives and Liberals are always dead seriously ready to govern.    The parties of Stockwell Day and Joe Volpe, no less.

And, it was CBC radio reports that answered the phone first from Navigator, when Bryant ran over Sheppard.

The CBC, is without question the least anti-worker main stream media outlet, one could say.  But it's not saying much, and it's not saying that the CBC is pro worker.    

And, giving O'Leary-- who is a parasite, not a capitalist-- a podium is disgusting.

Pssst ... Turn it off.

Frustrated Mess wrote:

Pssst ... Turn it off.

That's pretty well what the Harperites want you to do, or do you think you're penalising the advertisers by your boycott?

the main problem looks like the CBC is being forced by funding cuts to become more like a private sector channel, using ad revenue to offset what they don't get from the public.  A reliance on ad revenue in every other case fosters a more conservative business and advertiser-friendly version of the world, why would CBC be any different? 

perhaps if the public bothered to organize around the issue of public programming it might change, but public attitudes show allot of people don't watch or listen to CBC and could care less about it, for much the same reasons people don't bother reading news: we don't have a politically engaged culture in canada anymore.  

question: is there a way to get a large number of 'libleft' voters to look at CBC and do something more then shrug shoulders? almost certainly, this involve some exploitation of something that exposes the reactionary rightwing to spotlight. Any focus on them causes them to lose ground, as they are vicious and brutal two bit sub human creeps-you get the idea. Saying 'the nazis actually won WW2' strikes anyone as foolishness, and can be dismissed as raving, but to emphasise the disappearing of 'greatest generation' from the scene; and attach the idea that the REACTIONARIES were scheming away the entire time, and used the natural conservative bent of older folks to neuter the 'greatest generation' until too late....surely something more then just saying 'we don't have a politically engaged culture...' anymore (which is true, but that's the idea!)  The old men fought against the very thing don cherry and kevin o'leary and tex murphy and peter mansbridge etc advocate-the reactionary rightwing 'corporate' police state. David frum's sister is a taxpayer funded senator, and mike harris gets over 30k a month paid his arizona bank acc't. Ann coulter is hailed as free speech advocate, while George Galloway, Bill Ayers and Amy Goodman are banned by harper brownshirts! I don't even care to improve the lot of the goddam public anymore, but want to see the rightwing reactionaries put on notice the evidence is on the record to hang them all. FOR FRAUD! Hitler won WW2. See it! Harper proves it. Frum in the senate proves it. Don cherry's $500k salary/a year proves it. Mike harris's millions for his gov pension proves it. Mike stafford, oakley, carrol, doyle, Mike coren, Tex murphy, tremonti, mansbridge, chantel hebert only thing on the public airwaves coast to coast etc PROVES HITLER WON THE FRICKING WAR! let them deny it, the dirty bastards.

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Frustrated Mess wrote:

Pssst ... Turn it off.

That's pretty well what the Harperites want you to do, or do you think you're penalising the advertisers by your boycott?

Actually, I think the Harperites would prefer we stay tuned in to Conservative Broadcasting Channel where Rex Murphey and others can extol the virtue to war, sacrifice, and individual selfishness as the true and only road to financial enlightenment. As for the advertizers, they can go fuck themselves.

One doesn't need the CBC to get the weather. One does need something other than the CBC to really know what's happening at home and in the world. If all I wanted were reports from state department, I could read VoA.

When Peter Gzowski died over 8 years ago now, the CBC died for me as well.

brent banbury. what a waste of diapers (when brent was a baby)...that guy is such a grasping reactionary stooge he don't even know it. In '03, 'Go' had a comedy bit asking the question: "name 5 reasons Al Gore lost the ohoh election' and it was rotfltbfao time at CBC radio! I emailed them horny punks at 'go' that Gore won the election, ya fricking dingbats. BUSH LOST! now...Name 5 reasons brent banbury needs his arse kicked into outer space! That would be a funny topic...

1) banbury is a space aged jackass 2) brent is an unearthly name 3) banbury can prepare space for s.harper 4) brent eats too much and 5) if there's a parliamentary voting tie, and brent's one vote decides the winner/gives mr deficit a majority, and if the planets line up wrong, then brent's being in outer space will save us from disaster! ... rofl!

I would like to ad that the "relationship" they now have with the financial post is also troubling. FP articles do not allow comment and it shows the tighter and tighter relationship the CBC has taken wit the business class.

We pay taxes. We're the majority (if you ink the kids, the 'left outs,' the crazed, the jailed, plus the 'passionately intense' who simply need to be clued in to realize the 'privileges of the few' isn't for them!) and the ratio probably is ... 1/3 nazipooh, 1/3 progressive, then the remaing 1/3 'centre' is NOT leftist because of the vast $$$ spent lying to them, misleading them etc! Therefore, the true ratio is ...1/3 for harper and 2/3 for....against harper... but for Jack and.. for ignatief!...!!....the anti-war anti-corporate pig, leader of the  'Liberals" which thus inks us!

omg!

the problem is: cbc is the flag bearer for lib/prog/leftist media, and damned to hell on rest of pigmedia, and IT'S really rightwing to the bone!

Sandy47 wrote:

My guess is, that if the NDP were ever to form the government, they too would rule from much farther to the right than you might expect, because that's what head office in Washington would demand, and... if they didn't do as they were asked, there would be threats of economic as well as other, less subtle, kinds of hardships to give them the incentive to comply.

Well we can always speculate on the unknown. But both Harper and Iggy have hinted that Canada would be in the driver's seat in the event that a trade war ever breaks out with our NAFTA partner next door. Corporate Americais heavily reliant on Canadian fossil fuels and total energy exports. And, Canada imports more manufactured and other goods from the USA than any other country for something like the last 50 years. Iows, they really need Canada.

Maurice Strong said in 2001 that Canada has an obligation to the rest of the world to help corporate America curb its voracious appetite for cheap Canadian fossil fuels. I think the NDP would do a much better job of dealing with the Americans than our two bought and paid-for by Bay Street old line parties. Canada could prosper by a fairer trade deal.

Judy Rebick told Q's CBC Radio audience this morning that media coverage of the violence (and non-coverage of the quiet, disciplined and concerned) was the most 'outrageous"  slanting she has ever witnessed.  There were murmurs of agreement (briefly) the other panelists, but, generally, the others felt that the violent bit will always be covered.  The endlessly repeated TV shot (glad I don't hve TV) of a guy breaking a window, and the burning cruisers...had no defenders. 

CBC RADIO is still trying.  Michael Enright on Sunday morning also tried - interviewing  two former Csnadian foreign ministers , Barbard McDougall and Bill Graham, and the head of the Munk Centre (whose name escapes me) - to get at the causes of the NGOs protesting, those who are never covered.

In its latest appeal for funding, the Friends of Canadian Broadcasting concedes that there is rot.  And whenever the Cons control the purse strings, we're not likely to see improvement.  We may never again see the climate for rational advancement of broadcasting that you describe LTJ...more's the pity.   I think we had best continue to try to expose the threat to all of our freedoms.

russian tv on youtube did more media on the protester(cause thats about all anyone knows about them) than the conservative broadcast corporation. I watched Don Newman get apoplectic with Kory for calling Don and the CBC lefties. Don mentioning his fairly large number of conserfvative politic moderation for leadership races where no one thought he was unfair.(IE we are on the same team you idiot)

I pointed out to my dad about the near complete lack of anything about why the protests or the suspension of rights by McGuinty. This is a major news stroy. Your government just said FUCK YOU we are in control and no one is covering it? That is the disgrace that we should be worried about. Oh and that people are all smarm about north korea having all this propaganda. But fail to realize their citizens unlike ours know its propaganda. I have to say canadians are lacking critical thought anymore.

Think damnit. We are losing things way to quick, people aren't even struggling anymore.

MCBC

Manufacturing Consent Broadcasting Corporation.

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Think damnit. We are losing things way to quick, people aren't even struggling anymore.

People are too full. We've been hoodwinked into shoving our head up our arse instead of removing it to take a look around to see what's really going on.

I'm a Progressive Independent,But it will either be an INDEPENDENT or the GREEN Party that will get My Vote. The NDP have Treated Libby Davies like a Leper. SHE is the ONLY MP  in the HOC with BALLS to Stand Up for JUSTICE and Old Jack the Israeli Firster along with the "Leader in Waiting" MulClair (the Biggest Israeli Lobby  Whore in the NDP) have MUZZLEd Her .The Other  Parties'Whores that Slime Up the House  are All Chiming In to Prove that they too "LOVE ISRAEL" . Libby is the Only MP that Represents True Canadian Values or at least what I once thought Canada  Stood By.  Freedom and Justice For All. PEACE!

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I'm a Progressive Independent,But it will either be an INDEPENDENT or the GREEN Party that will get My Vote.

Then your vote will be wasted. Independents are few and far between, and as often as not to the right of Stephen Harper. The Greens remain unelectable, moreso lately with the anti-democratic Ellie May as their leader.

And as you've recognized, only the NDP has people like Libby within trying to bring justice for the Palestinian people into public discourse.

let's start a petition to rename the 'Canadian Broadcasting Corporation' to 'Canada Brownshirt (broadcasting) Corporation' ...though the CBC hardly is as vile as Global etc usually is, it really really wants the rightwing agenda made the only agenda in news/info, it seems.... a publicly funded news org afraid of being populist is worse then no public paid for news, which is what we have now. Jim Travers can rant all he wants in the Star, but what the EFF does that got to do with anything, when tex Murphy's expounding on the sweet scent of harper's feces every time you turn CBC on?

I think it is sad that the CBC doesn't seem to realize that no matter how far then bend over for Harper, Harper will get rid of them once he can,  especially since he has the new STFU channel. 

I still listen to some radio programming but less and less all the time, I tend to tune into the local university radio station which has come great stuff on it including Amy Goodman and Democracy Now.  As far as television I watch a little of it and less of the news, occaisionally I will check out what they want us to think.

Post G20 I think many Canadians have begun to realize that the CBC National news is no longer a reliable source of information.

George Victor wrote:

I'm afraid you aren't yet afraid of what continued economic growth means for the species!  Look up.  Look wayyyyy up!

Unless, of course, you don't believe mainstream science.  If that's the case, I've nothing to offer.

George - I am afraid. Very afraid. The point I was trying, unsuccessfully, to make was that as long as we make "jobs" the priority, we'll continue the endless consumption/destruction. We need a new way of making a living which doesn't require creating jobs for everyone. Suzuki needs to challenge the capitalist/free market system if he wants to reduce consumption and save us from ourselves. The science is clear. The way is not.

I listened. Same old saving whales business. Nothing wrong with that. Everybody wants the whales to survive. Suzuki doesn't exactly explain what we have to do to save them though. How we have to transform the economics of jobs. He's a sweet guy, no threat to anyone. I didn't hear him arguing anything. A gentle little reminder that we're still f-ing up royally. Gentle being the operative word.

A FAIR "action alet" warns us that much the same is happening to PBS:

Action Alert

PBS, George Shultz and Funny Funding
Do PBS's conflict of interest rules apply?

7/12/10

Many PBS stations around the country will begin airing a three-part, three-hour documentary tonight (7/12/10) about Reagan-era Secretary of State George Shultz. According to the New York Times (7/12/10), the unusually lengthy, completely uncritical tribute is partially sponsored by corporations linked to Shultz's corporate career.

The special, Turmoil and Triumph, was funded by the Stephen Bechtel Fund and Charles Schwab. Shultz was a board member at both companies, and was president of the Bechtel Corporation from 1975 to 1982.

According to reviews, the documentary takes an overwhelmingly positive, even gushing stance. The Times' Alessandra Stanley points out, "There is no mention that Mr. Shultz was a cheerleader for the 2003 invasion of Iraq while still on the board of Bechtel, a construction and engineering firm that won huge contracts that were later criticized by the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction."

As the San Francisco Chronicle put it (7/10/10), "Only once in Turmoil's three hours will you hear someone disagree with Shultz"--not about his own performance, but about whether Reagan knew about the Iran/Contra arms deals. Conservative Wall Street Journal columnist Dorothy Rabinowitz (7/9/10) noted that the speakers in the film are "an exceptionally enthusiastic lot even by the prevailing standards for testimonials of this sort."

The political slant of the film is not a surprise. The company that produced it, Free to Choose Media, has had a hand in several conservative-oriented programs that have aired on public television, including 1980's Free to Choose, a special PBS series celebrating conservative economist Milton Friedman. As Greg Mitchell noted in the Nation (7/12/10), Free to Choose Media "was founded with money from the conservative Bradley Foundation and is part of the Palmer R. Chitester Fund."

TAKE ACTION!

ACTION:
Write to PBS ombud Michael Getler and ask him to investigate the relationship between the subject and funders of Turmoil and Triumph.

CONTACT:
PBS Ombud
Michael Getler
[email protected]
(703) 739-5290

Please post copies of your letters in the comments section on the FAIR Blog

I think the employees at CBC are scared of not towing the line. They have witnessed what has happened in the past to former colleagues when the cuts come down and the door locking begins, and have made their choice.

I don’t think for a minute they will jeopardize their cozy positions at the CBC over political reasons. They know how crooked, criminal and corrupt the governments they have worked under are.

More reason for a left wing nation wide media in Canada …the CBC has been divided and conquered…and in a conflict of interest situation