continued from here
Canada Complicit in TORTURE: Part 2
Tue, 2009-12-01 15:01
#1
remind
Canada Complicit in TORTURE: Part 2
Tue, 2009-12-01 15:06
#2
remind
From NR's Star link in the now closed thread......
It's not, as the Prime Minister would have voters believe, about which political party stands shoulder-to-shoulder with the armed forces. It's not about Colvin's credibility. It's not even about the hard, unequivocal, blood-and-bruises evidence military leaders insist was missing from serial warnings.Reduced to its essence, the Afghanistan prisoner storm is about political accountability. Canada had a problem with transfers when Liberals were the ruling party and it reached a tipping point just months after Conservatives came to power. Both governments applied situational Band-Aids, both ducked the tough, expensive actions needed to ensure this country was doing everything necessary to comply with the letter and spirit of domestic and international law.
Far from protecting the troops, that expediency ratcheted risks higher. It exposed them to local reprisals as well as to legal liability and made victory in a hearts-and-minds war all that more elusive.
Those failures are now compounded by what looks, feels and smells like yet another cover-up. Fast as stories are changing, there's now compelling evidence that more than enough was known in June 2006 to stop the transfers or add the safeguards that weren't put in place for more than a year.
Tue, 2009-12-01 15:16
#3
Not Canada?! I thought our stooges were the good guys?
Tue, 2009-12-01 15:21
#4
The question: Why did it take so long to change the transfer arrangements?
The government revamped arrangements for transferring detainees in May of 2007 - at least five months after Mr. Mulroney indicated it became clear to government officials that changes were necessary. He indicated that designing a monitoring system and getting police and corrections officials involved was a long process. "Of course, it took a little time," Mr. MacKay said.
But back in February of 2007, then-defence minister Gordon O'Connor said the government was satisfied with the transfer arrangement details. When the issue exploded into controversy - after The Globe and Mail on April 23, 2007, published interviews with detainees who said they had been tortured - the government rebuffed calls for changes. On Friday, Mr. MacKay refused to say when the decision was made to alter the transfer arrangements.
Tue, 2009-12-01 15:38
#5
remind
apparently sometime in that few days between April 23 and May, 2 short months after O'Connor said there was nothing wrong.....
But given Karzi's ties to Suncor, as well as the Conservatives, the denials are going to go a long time.....
Tue, 2009-12-01 22:29
#6
This is just whistling Dixie of course, as there will never ever be an inquiry.
House of Commons demands torture inquiry
Tue, 2009-12-01 23:59
#7
The plot thickens:
Claims by senior Conservatives that Canadian officials investigated credible claims of torture in Afghan jails were called into question by court testimony last year, documents obtained by the Toronto Star show. Kerry Buck, former director general of the Afghanistan Task Force, testified that Canada's officials in Afghanistan don't investigate the credibility of torture allegations involving detainees handed over by Canada, but pass along the claims to the Afghan government.
Former Gen. Rick Hillier contradicted himself in the testimony he gave. At one point he asserted that he had "substantiated evidence that detainees were tortured." At another point he asserted that "the transfer of detainees was halted when the Afghan government stopped sending information on the detainees."
Did he or did he not have substantiated evidence concerning the conditions of the detainees? He considers the Afghan government - a government that is rife with financial corruption and, after its fraudulent travesty of an election, illegitimate - credible?
Wed, 2009-12-02 18:39
#8
Red Cross warned Canada of Afghan prison abuse
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091202/red_cross_091202/20091202?hub=Canada
Wed, 2009-12-02 22:18
#9
Come on Neo-Cons, let's have that inquiry - why are you so afraid of the truth!
Afghan firing backs Colvin's testimony
The firing of an Afghan prison official after a braided cable was found in his office backs diplomat Richard Colvin’s testimony that detainees were being tortured after they were turned over to Afghan authorities, say opposition MPs.
“If you have an instrument of torture in the office of someone who is responsible for the treatment of prisoners, you have a significant problem,
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/12/02/12014921-sun.html
Wed, 2009-12-02 22:20
#10
Heavily edited Afghan documents prove need for inquiry: NDP
Wed, 2009-12-02 22:27
#11
remind
wish we still had all the babble threads from back in 2007 where we discussed this at length, and there was a whack load of info too
Thu, 2009-12-03 01:23
#12
This migfht be a bit easier.
Of course now that there will be no inquiry they are being released.
Thu, 2009-12-03 01:27
#13
Heavily-censored Afghan abuse memos released
Documents confirm whistleblower's emails were sent to then-Foreign Affairs minister Peter MacKay's office
However, the package confirms the Star's report last Wednesday that the emails dated in spring 2006 were sent to then-foreign affairs minister Peter MacKay's office, and flagged alarm over detainees handling on behalf of the International Red Cross Committee — the world humanitarian organization entrusted by the United Nations to monitor prisoners of war.
MacKay says he wasn't briefed until May 2007 on Colvin's emails, but insists there was no "credible" evidence of a real risk of torture to any detainee handed over by Canadians, though his senior Afghan advisor at the time concedes it was widely known that abuses happened in Afghan prisons.
Thu, 2009-12-03 02:31
#14
. . . But does he have any tips on how to convince a government to call one? 
In addition, Brian has frequently acted as counsel on federal and provincial Commissions of Inquiry. In that role, he has served in recent years as a Commission counsel on the Walkerton Inquiry, Arar Inquiry, Air India Inquiry and the Cornwall Inquiry.
Wed, 2009-12-09 01:01
#15
It's about bloody time. Thanks Paul
The Globe and Blatchford
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/08/the-globe-and-blatchford/
Wed, 2009-12-09 01:03
#16
Thu, 2009-12-10 02:38
#17
re: Torture/Interrogation -
Detainee 063 : Serialized Interrogation and Torture Logs. (Not for the faint of heart)
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/09/detainee-063-seriali.html
"This is the interrogation log of Mohamed al-Qahtani. It is being published in real time: each day will appear exactly seven years after it was first recorded. The interrogations took place at Guantanamo Bay
Thu, 2009-12-10 21:56
#18
This is an odd approach for Jack Layton to be taking - kind of too clever by half, I think:
[url=http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/12/10/layton-detainees.html][color=b... international detainee affair probe: Layton[/color][/url]
"It's very important that we take control of this here in Canada because if we do not, then we're going to find that international bodies are going to start asking questions and conducting their own investigations if we don't take hold of that responsibility here," Layton told reporters in Ottawa on Thursday.
But Layton said he wouldn't file his own complaint to the international court about the the issue, preferring that the federal government look into the matter.
"It would be preferable by far to have Canadians doing the investigation that needs to be done about what happened rather than having some international body have to do it. Let's take responsibility here."
I think he needs a change of tacticians.
Thu, 2009-12-10 22:26
#19
I agree that's what they're likely trying to accomplish - but can you imagine Harper's reaction if they actually sounded as if they were threatening to drag Canada before some "foreign" body? Harper can safely sit back and call their bluff. They wouldn't dare. That's why I question their tactics. Never make a threat if its execution will hurt you more than your adversary - especially if everyone can figure that out in advance.
Thu, 2009-12-10 22:37
#20
Frustrated Mess
I don't think that's it. By law, the international court is to investigate if signatories do not investigate themselves. I think they are doing two things, one they are pushing the government to an inquiry and two they are circumventing any requirement to involve the ICC. In reality, we know an inquiry will never lead to a Canadian official being charged no matter the severity of the crime, the heft of the evidence or the likelihood of a conviction. They are simply too Western and too white. The real goal here is political mileage at the expense of the governing party and not a thing more. You won't find morality where none exists.
Thu, 2009-12-10 22:48
#21
The real goal here is political mileage at the expense of the governing party and not a thing more. You won't find morality where none exists.
Yeah, FM, I get that, really I do - I'm just saying it seems inept to me.
Why wouldn't Harper respond: "There is absolutely not a shred of evidence necessitating a public inquiry, and we're not going to divert attention from our goals in Afghanistan and our preparation for 2011 by engaging in this politicized spectacle. Moreover, I can't believe the NDP and the Liberals are actually wielding the threat of the International Court. If we don't succumb to their demand, then they're going to report our loyal ministers, civil servants, and military personnel to some foreign tribunal? Based on rumours likely spread by the Taliban? On that dark day, I would personally go there and defend Canada."
Honestly, I think their tactic sounds feeble - but we'll see how the government reacts.
Fri, 2009-12-11 00:09
#22
I could see an inquiry if this was a successor government investigating screw ups of a previous government, like the Libranos thieving from the taxpayers. But this government is still in power and are caught red-handed in screwing up.
Any inquiry into government knowledhe of torture and all around pro-USA stoogery should be dealt with by Canadian Parliament head on now. As in before an election when Canadian voters have a chance to reward them for their gross incompetence and general all around stoogery. They only have a few colonial administrative tasks as it is, and they can't even do those right.
Sat, 2009-12-12 01:34
#23
This is an odd approach for Jack Layton to be taking - kind of too clever by half, I think:
[url=http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/12/10/layton-detainees.html][color=b... international detainee affair probe: Layton[/color][/url]
"It's very important that we take control of this here in Canada because if we do not, then we're going to find that international bodies are going to start asking questions and conducting their own investigations if we don't take hold of that responsibility here," Layton told reporters in Ottawa on Thursday.
But Layton said he wouldn't file his own complaint to the international court about the the issue, preferring that the federal government look into the matter.
"It would be preferable by far to have Canadians doing the investigation that needs to be done about what happened rather than having some international body have to do it. Let's take responsibility here."
I think he needs a change of tacticians.
My thinking on this, Unionist (and Ujjal Dosanjh said the same thing on CBC Radio's "As It Happens" last night) is that what the NDP and the Liberals are trying to do - in light of MacKay's (yesterday) and Harper's (today) digging in their heels and stonewalling on this issue, is to attempt to get their foot in the door by using reverse psychology on Harper.
The point they are making is "We are all agreed that we don't want the reputation of Canada harmed and we don't want the reputation of the Canadian government harmed by the World Court openning up a war crimes case against the Canadian goverment, so can we agree to all cooperate on a national Canadian "in house" investigation?"
If Harper takes his chances by refusing to agree with this suggestion, then the NDP and Liberals (and Greens and Bloc) can say, "We tried but Harper refused, now he must face the consequences."
Fri, 2010-03-26 02:55
#24
Why wouldn't Harper respond: "There is absolutely not a shred of evidence necessitating a public inquiry, and we're not going to divert attention from our goals in Afghanistan and our preparation for 2011 by engaging in this politicized spectacle..."
In fact, Harper has responded this way. He is acting like a man who stared at reality in the face but didn't see a thing. How can he say that "There is absolutely not a shred of evidence...", when Richard Colvin's testimony is backed up by the ICRC, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch - in short, by about a half dozen such credible international agencies and when Chief of Defense Staff Gen. Natynczyk just yesterday provided proof positive of a case, in 2006, where Canadian soldiers had transferred a detainee (complete with before photographs and a detailed written report because the 'word going around' was that detainees were tortured) to Afghan authorities, only to remand him back into protective custody (complete with after photographs, which the government refuses to release citing "operational security") because he was beaten by Afghan authorities?
Natynczyk himself has ordered a military investigation as to why it took nearly four years for the evidence contained in this report to come to his attention. What the military will find is already a foregone conclusion: It will find that the report in question was "deep sixed" by former Gen. Hillier, probably with the knowledge and under instructions from the (Conservative) government. The military investigation will probably also uncover an excruciatingly embarrassing plethora of additional such (field) reports.
According to the report in question, Canadian troops acted accordingly in full compliance with the Geneva Conventions, thus exploding the myth that the [counter]attacks against MacKay (in defense of former diplomat Richard Colvin) and by way of extension, against Harper, are "attacks against the Canadian military" - as argued by Harper. It is not the Canadian military that is in the wrong. Only the military leadership (Hillier and his cabal) and the civilian leaders of this country are the ones who are in the wrong.
If Canada does not have a judicial/criminal inquiry, the World Court will initiate proceedings of its own, regardless, if it deems the matter to be of a serious enough nature. It could be the U.N.'s revenge for Bush waging his illegal war in Afghanistan.
Fri, 2010-03-26 03:12
#25
OTTAWA - Newly released documents show a Canadian soldier alleges that Afghan authorities routinely executed detainees his unit handed over to them.
... And they reveal that a Canadian military policewoman stationed at Kandahar base was assaulted in early 2008 upon getting out of the shower and told to mind her own business.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jHNpzZ6nKb5...
If the link doesn't open the right page, go to http://antiwar.com and under the Frontline heading, click on "Heavily-Censored Afghan Documents Raise New Questions About Transfers"
Sat, 2010-03-27 01:53
#26
What our military isn't telling us:
Sat, 2010-03-27 02:48
#27
Good work! Keep it up!
Mon, 2010-04-12 04:47
#28
With the insurgency on the rise in Kandahar, Mr. Karzai raised concerns about Mr. Khalid's leadership at a meeting with Canadian officials in July, 2006. According to the report, "Canada defended the governor, thereby ensuring his continued tenure."
The Canadian who spoke in favour of the governor [of Kandahar province] was Major-General David Fraser, then serving as commander of the Canadian Forces in southern Afghanistan. His boss at the time, Lieutenant-General Michel Gauthier, maintained the same position when Canada was again asked for advice about Mr. Khalid the following December, according to a government source.
The following year, however, ... In an interview, a source who served on Canada's headquarters staff at Kandahar Air Field said he heard a story of torture from Mr. Khalid's own mouth. Afghan authorities were trying to decide whether to pay compensation to a man from Maywand district who claimed his brother was killed during an interrogation by Mr. Khalid. The governor acknowledged causing the man's death, the source said, and the brother received a sum equivalent to roughly $2,000 (U.S.)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/house-of-pain-canadas-conne...
Remember Major General David Fraser and Lieutenant General Michel Gauthier? They, along with former General Rick Hillier formed the triumverate of generals who appeared before the cameras in Ottawa on Wednesday November 25 2009 and lied to cover their asses, contradicting testimony given by diplomat Richard Colvin.
They all claimed that they either had not received communications from Colvin concerning prisoner abuse, or if they had they hadn't read them, or if they had read them the language was vague and didn't suggest torture or abuse or that they considered the manner in which the incidents were described didn't warrant any significance or urgency. Their testimony all agreed that there "wasn't one scrap of substantive evidence that prisoners were tortured or abused."
In one breath Hillier argues that "there wasn't one scrap of substantive evidence that prisoners were tortured or abused" and in the same breath, he argues that the "terrorists" were often "caught red handed having killed Canadian sons and daughters in battle", implying that they had therefore "forfeited" their rights, deserved to be tortured and abused and any concern over this was thus "misplaced".
Wed, 2010-04-14 03:37
#29
More torture we're complicit in as we impose democracy on Afghanistan: The Rape of Afghan Boys
http://original.antiwar.com/vlahos/2010/04/12/a-deal-with-the-devil/
"We talk about losing the war in Afghanistan, but what if we are losing our soul in Afghanistan?
Indirectly, Frontline will be asking that question on April 20, with an underground report on the re-emergence of bacha bazi or 'boy play' in which the boyslaves are seen as important status symbols of the elite. The behaviour of these modern slave owners belies an endemic problem that human rights advocates and NATO military personnel operating in Afghanistan have observed for some time now...
The Toronto Star reported that a Canadian soldier said he witnessed in 2006, injuries sustained by a boy he had heard was raped by an Afghan soldier at one of the Canadian outposts in Kandahar.
These injuries included the boy's intestines falling out of his body, 'a sign of trauma from anal rape'.."
Wed, 2010-04-14 12:10
#30
Has anyone else received the following offensive, inaccurate and just plain stupid e-mail that is making the rounds? My husband got it from his asshole boss and I got it from a former co-worker (who is an all round racist prick). I didn't post the drivel to be inflammatory but to highlight part of the reason that so few people seem to actually care about the torture issue - ignorance, stupidity and blatant racism. I doubt that there is any way to get a majority of people in this country to care about the abuse, torture and murder of Afghan civilians and that lack of compassion is sickening. WTF has happened to this country?
Thought you might like to read this letter to the editor ~ ever notice how some people just seem to know how to write a letter?.
This one sure does!
This was written by a Canadian woman, but oh how it also applies to the U.S., U.K. and Australia
THIS ONE PACKS A FIRM PUNCH
Written by a housewife in New Brunswick , to her local newspaper. This is one ticked off lady.
'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?
Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from the nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ?
Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.
I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan
I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.
I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.
I'll care when the Canadian media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.
In the meantime, when I hear a story about a CANADIAN soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:
I don't care.
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank:
I don't care.
When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:
I don't care.
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn you guessed it,
I don't care!!
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends.? Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behaviour!
If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country! And may I add:
'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Soldiers don't have that problem.'
I have another quote that I would like to add, AND.......I hope you forward all this.
Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The Canadian Soldier.
3. The British Soldier.
4. The US Soldier, and
5. The Australian Soldier
One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO PASS THIS ON, AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET ALL OF THEM..
AMEN!
Wed, 2010-04-14 14:46
#31
As you can tell, this is an e-mail chain letter.
My guess is it was written either by a Republican supporter, someone working on George W. Bushs' election team in the 2004 Gubernatorial or the 2006 Congressional elections or by the Pentagon during this time.
What it ignores is that if the U.S.A., U.K., Canada, Australia, etc., are civilized countries and respect the rule of law, then they would not do the things the "author" of this letter is fine with/turns a moral blind eye to. It is this kind of mentality that got Harper and the Cons into the legal, political and moral mess they are in now. "Hey Harper, need the number of a good lawyer?"
The international laws I am referring to are the Nuremberg Trials, the Nuremberg Principles, the Geneva Conventions, the U.N. Charter and other laws, treaties, agreements, conventions, protocols, etc.
Either we are civilized countries and we respect the rule of law or we are a bunch of lawless savages who are worse even than the "terrorists" the author talks about.
9/11 saw the deaths of app. 3,000 people. So far we have killed 12,000 - 36,000 (I've even seen the figure of over 3 million) Afghans. There is no proportionality. How many more Afghans need to die before the author's sense of revenge will be satisfied?
What were the names of the Afghan terrorists involved in 9/11? Can't think of any? That's because there are none. Yet we are waging a murderous illegal war of aggression against the people and country of Afghanistan.
The author thinks Afghans defending their country and suicide bombers are cowards.
What about U.S. Air Force personnel who control pilotless drones thousands of miles away in Las Vegas, Nevada who kill (95% of the time innocent) Afghanis and Pakistanis? In the case of the Pakistanis, the U.S.A. has not even declared war against Pakistan.
That's the epitome of cowardice.
All this letter amounts to is a diatribe of contradictory and logically unsupportable moral relativism, religious bigotry and intolerance, racism, ethnocentrism and cultural blindness.
To me when I hear and read such things from today's political right (perhaps it's always been the case), it looks as if they walk around holding signs above their heads that say: I'm An Ignorant Slob - And Proud Of It!
Wed, 2010-04-14 16:00
#32
Ignorance is bliss but being a slob is just gross (=
Wed, 2010-04-14 16:35
#33
Fmrsldr: you're exactly right. I wish I could forward your response to the people who sent the e-mails to us. However, I shouldn't cause trouble for my husband at work because he has enough stress dealing with these jerks every day anyway. And, my former co-worker knows my opinions on these issues anyway but is convinced he can save me - he's the kind of guy who thinks he is being really nice when he compliments me on my nice rack or my nice ass. These types of people are not interested in facts or information that conflicts with their bigotry.
If the subject were not so deadly serious, the hypocrisy of the people who put forth such tripe would be laughable. However, the situation in this country has become quite sickening. We have access to information from all over the world yet an alarming number of people, perhaps even a majority of people, choose to be ignorant and embrace the propoganda put forth by our morally bankrupt leadership, both government and military. When did this become a nation of Sarah Palin types who embrace ignorance and deride educated or informed people as elitist? We hear that crap all the time. When did we become a nation of bloodthirsty people who rather than being disgusted by the acts committed in our name, rejoice at these atrocities? Working with people who think nothing of dropping the N-bomb or other racial slurs is bad enough, but hearing people talking about nuking the middle east to "kill all the fucking rats" or, during the Rwandan tragedy, people suggesting sending more machetes to get "rid of all the animals", etc. makes me sick to my stomach. Perhaps my husband and I have a skewed perspective because we are stuck in redneck central but too often we feel like giving up on this country and moving somewhere else.
Wed, 2010-04-14 22:28
#34
Kara, when people come up with these things, tell them to do so is a war crime. It is against the Geneva Conventions. It is why we fought the Second World War.
I also live in a "redneck central". In normal times, these people, at worst, are a threat only to themselves. They become a threat to the country, society and the rest of us when a party like CRAP (Conservative Reform Alliance Party) forms the government and a person like Harper becomes Prime Minister. Now these people have a leader, a party and a voice to unify behind. Watch Out!
Thu, 2010-04-15 08:08
#35
Kara,Fmrsldr: you're exactly right. I wish I could forward your response to the people who sent the e-mails to us. However, I shouldn't cause trouble for my husband at work because he has enough stress dealing with these jerks every day anyway. And, my former co-worker knows my opinions on these issues anyway but is convinced he can save me - he's the kind of guy who thinks he is being really nice when he compliments me on my nice rack or my nice ass. These types of people are not interested in facts or information that conflicts with their bigotry.
If the subject were not so deadly serious, the hypocrisy of the people who put forth such tripe would be laughable. However, the situation in this country has become quite sickening. We have access to information from all over the world yet an alarming number of people, perhaps even a majority of people, choose to be ignorant and embrace the propoganda put forth by our morally bankrupt leadership, both government and military. When did this become a nation of Sarah Palin types who embrace ignorance and deride educated or informed people as elitist? We hear that crap all the time. When did we become a nation of bloodthirsty people who rather than being disgusted by the acts committed in our name, rejoice at these atrocities? Working with people who think nothing of dropping the N-bomb or other racial slurs is bad enough, but hearing people talking about nuking the middle east to "kill all the fucking rats" or, during the Rwandan tragedy, people suggesting sending more machetes to get "rid of all the animals", etc. makes me sick to my stomach. Perhaps my husband and I have a skewed perspective because we are stuck in redneck central but too often we feel like giving up on this country and moving somewhere else.
This was the best post I have read on rabble.ca yet.
Thank you,
Matthew Pope
Sat, 2010-04-17 16:38
#36
Walkom: Was Afghan Torture a Deliberate Tool for Canada?
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/afghanmission/article/796809--walkom-...
"The most stunning news out of Ottawa this week has nothing to do with embattled MP Helen Guergis. Rather, it is the testimony of former army translator Ahmadshah Malgarai alleging that Canadian intelligence officers deliberately sent recalcitrant prisoners to be interrogated under torture by that country's secret police...
If Malgarai is correct, the government's calculated indifference takes on a more sinister meaning. His allegations suggest that Canadian officials at the highest level made a deliberate decision to use the prisoner transfer system as a way to subject suspects to interrogation techniques that are illegal in Canada, or in Malgarai's words. 'to subcontract the torture'.."
Sun, 2010-04-18 16:21
#37
Richard Colvin Sticks To His Testimony on Torture in Afghanistan
http://www.voltairenet.org/article164982.html
"The Canadian Military Police Complaints Commission (MPCC) finally held six-hour long hearings of Richard Colvin's testimony on 13 April 2010...
..Mr Colvin had already gained public notice during his assignment in Ramallah in the wake of Yasser Arafat's death by alerting his superiors to the circumstances of Arafat's poisoning and Fatah's internal transformation...Richard Colvin currently serves as the First Secretary and Liason Officer in the Intelligence division of the Canadian embassy to the United States."
Wed, 2010-04-21 11:10
#38
Canada Subcontracted Torture of Afghan Detainees
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/apr2010/afgh-a21.shtml
"If the Canadian interrogator thought a detainee was lying [or maybe just for fun] the military sent him to NDS for more questions, Afghan style. Translations: abuse and torture'
history will show that Canadians cared little and did less to end this war. Their 'representatives' even less and arguably contrived to keep it going because they know their place in the imperial scheme of things..
Federal Lawyer Rues Detainee Document Remark
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/04/20/afghanistan-detainees-commissi...
"A Justice Department lawyer apologized Tuesday after telling an inquiry into the Afghan detainee affair that officials would hand over documents when 'they are good and ready'.."
The lawyer, this government and others associated with the Afghan campaign are unindicted war criminals
Thu, 2010-08-26 19:57
#39