http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=XEUzsooa1JE&feature=related
Have to say the 150 000 number was pleasant suprise for me and that its growing, I wonder what the canadian number is (10-15 thousand perhaps)
Anyway this reinforces my view that through either societal collapse or evolution formal education will go extinct this century.
Wow, those unschoolers are not like any unschoolers I have heard of before. Seems to me they may have tried to find parents which fit the angle of the story - that unschooling is about letting your kids run wild, with no discipline and no opportunities for learning and no opportunity for becoming well adjusted human beings. Personally I think this belongs more in the media forum as it says more about the media than it does about true unschooling values.
Here is thread that was started on unschooling that has a very interesting podcast which talks more about what I know about unschooling. She talks about projects, books and other learning opportunities that were all presented whereas in the story it just talked about kids vegging out and doing nothing all day except try and get out of learning.
While a single case does not a rule make, I think it would interesting to follow this -- it looks like a pretty good foundation for trans-generational poverty.
- that unschooling is about letting your kids run wild, with no discipline and no opportunities for learning and no opportunity for becoming well adjusted human beings.
We could all be a little wilder, as for discipline that is something that is more self explored and taught I come from the west indies and see that ideology at its worst. And well adjusted human beings is just a euphamism for being well integrated into capital civilized relationships, its good to see that people are not being nurtured to become boss or bossed.
Also see this video response http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNBaDS0eK64
- that unschooling is about letting your kids run wild, with no discipline and no opportunities for learning and no opportunity for becoming well adjusted human beings.
We could all be a little wilder, as for discipline that is something that is more self explored and taught I come from the west indies and see that ideology at its worst. And well adjusted human beings is just a euphamism for being well integrated into capital civilized relationships, its good to see that people are not being nurtured to become boss or bossed.
Also see this video response http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNBaDS0eK64
I was actually grouping running wild and lack of discipline together. In terms of the discipline I don't see it as instructed I see it as an ability to respect other people and act in a way that respects other people which was definitely a trait that was lacking in the first video (I haven't had time to see the second yet).
For you well adjusted human being may be a euphemism for being well integrated into capital civilized relationships for me it has to do with being a person who is self confident, loves themselves, respects themselves and believes themselves capable and therefore is trusting in others, respects others and believes other to be capable people. Again the first video not only has this lacking but actually tries to portray the children to lack self confidence, lack respect for themselves and not believe themselves to be capable therefore the same qualities about others would not be able to be developed. (The self love was not really touched on except to allude to a feeling of entitlement which goes against self love).
This is the opposite of what I have seen with unschooled kids.
Yeah, I thought that news clip was pretty unrepresentative of the unschooling I've read about online. Child-directed learning is different than having absolutely no household rules, and completely aimless, directionless children. I also think they went out of their way to find the most objectionable example possible.
That reporter is a monster.
I don't think that those kids were as "wild" as people in this thread and the idiot news reporters make them out to be. Very little of the news clip was the family talking about their experience. Most of the time was the stupid questions of a flabergasted reporter.
Exactly le T
I can read between the lines of that report, they represent the dominent ideology obviously and are not going to find the most persuasive example at the level of appearance, but overall there is nothing wrong with that family in question as far as I see. Somone like Mr Fortunewood on the other hand who's youtube vid I posted might make deschooling look a little to good.
