Conservative MP named in fraud lawsuit

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Thu, 2010-05-06 03:18

Augustus

I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.

CTVcalgary.ca

Wed May. 05 2010

A Conservative MP is among hundreds named in a mortgage fraud lawsuit filed by BMO.

Calgary Northeast MP Devinder Shory and his professional corporation are listed as one of the defendants in the suit, which alleges losses of 70 million dollars.

Legal documents obtained by CTV News say Shory was a practicing lawyer at the time of the alleged scam.

Shory is named by BMO as the lawyer listed in several transactions in which the bank claims it was defrauded by tens of thousands of dollars.

http://calgary.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100505/CGY_bmo_fraud_10...

Fri, 2010-05-14 14:53

Triphop

This is now a criminal case.

http://www.calgarysun.com/news/alberta/2010/05/13/13938326.html

This is much MUCH worse than the cokehead Guergis case but everybody is being real quiet. Even the Libs and NDP.

Fri, 2010-05-14 15:01

Summer

There's nothing in the article that says one or the other whether the MP is being investigated. The closest we have is:

Quote:
Calgary Northeast Tory MP Devinder Shory was named as a defendant in his capacity as a lawyer in the case, but BMO representatives have since stated none of the lawyers in the suit is being accused of any criminal behaviour.

Fri, 2010-05-14 15:12

Boom Boom

Augustus wrote:
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.

It was posted here on May 5th - with 31 posts so far!

Fri, 2010-05-14 15:20

RockyRacoon

The BMO dropped his name from the suit. Let's see if that makes any difference.

Fri, 2010-05-14 17:50

Augustus

RockyRacoon wrote:

The BMO dropped his name from the suit. Let's see if that makes any difference.

RR

Then he's clear and out of the woods - nothing more for the Opposition to focus on.

Another storm in a teapot.

Sat, 2010-05-15 02:10

KenS

Premature Augustus. As I noted in another thread, the bank would in the first place only have very indirect grounds for including him. Since the substantive issue is whether he adequately performed his duties as solicitors for his actual clients [the nominal buyers] as opposed to the perpetraors who would have recruited him.... that only indirectly brings in the banks interests. So they would tend to drop him very easily... when there may still be others interested him.

I'm not saying there are, but no one else having an interest him is the only thing that will put him in the clear. You are prematurely wishing him there.

Sat, 2010-05-15 04:43

Triphop

Shory was dirty before he was even nominated in his riding. Troubles people had with him go way back. The Cons are really boneheads about how they vet candidates. I just don't know why the NDs and Libs won't go after the Tories on this. This is political gold almost as good as Adscam.

Sat, 2010-05-15 10:05

KenS

The public is really tired of scandals, and politics in general. So the opposition parties have to be careful about how much they stoke these affairs. As strange as Pat Martins antics may look around the Geurgis affair- sometimes even gratuitous- thats a story with legs of its own. The media wants it, so Martin I think is more or less turning it over- same thing you do with garden compost to make the process fuller.

With the Shory affair, grabbing the cameras and trying to force the issue to centre stage now risks getting you nothing except backlash. So its probably best to first see what the media initiates. I know there is enough stink around what he did "for" his clients taht some NGO around immigrant rights is likely to be pushing for intention. And if Shory already had a reputation, it will be that much more likely.

Sat, 2010-05-15 15:24

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RockyRacoon

The Banks won't lend them money for the election if they make a big stink out of this-that is what I am told.

Sat, 2010-05-15 18:03

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Augustus

KenS wrote:

The public is really tired of scandals, and politics in general. So the opposition parties have to be careful about how much they stoke these affairs. As strange as Pat Martins antics may look around the Geurgis affair- sometimes even gratuitous- thats a story with legs of its own. The media wants it, so Martin I think is more or less turning it over- same thing you do with garden compost to make the process fuller.

With the Shory affair, grabbing the cameras and trying to force the issue to centre stage now risks getting you nothing except backlash. So its probably best to first see what the media initiates. I know there is enough stink around what he did "for" his clients taht some NGO around immigrant rights is likely to be pushing for intention. And if Shory already had a reputation, it will be that much more likely.

Now you are getting it. This is the first time you have made a good point on this thread.

This is what I was trying to get at in our previous discussions. Focusing on scandals and salaciousness is not going to get the Opposition very far. What people want Government to focus on is the economy, jobs and the management of the country. They are not interested in personal scandals that individual MP's get themselves involved with.

In order to win Government, a party needs to win the battle of ideas, policies or issues. This was the problem the Republicans had in the 1990's - they couldn't beat Clinton on the issues or the economy, so they tried to get him on sex scandals. But the public ultimately liked Clinton's management of the country and the economy, and he survived and prospered because most people didn't care about that.

It's the same thing in Canada right now - most people don't care about Rahim Jaffer, Helena Guergis or Devinder Shory and what they did or didn't do in these personal scandals. As Bill Clinton correctly said in the 1990's, it's the economy, stupid. If the Opposition can win the issue of the economy, then they can potentially start winning down the road. But if they want to drool over scandals instead, they can forget it.

Sat, 2010-05-15 18:55

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Triphop

Getting the cops involved like IMET has a lot of negatives for the banks. Remember that RBC and Lichtenstein tax evasion scam? If Canada Revenue and the cops start poking around they might find lots of things the banks don't want seen. Like when the Royal Group was investigated and Scotiabank didn't want to supply IMET with the relevant documents. IMET came with a warrant and truckloads of cops with assault rifles and said in effect "give us the fucking papers." Im sure they tried to keep things CIVIL but then the cops got involved.

Rahim Jaffer was stuffing his face with beer and food instead of campaigning. Losing a seat to the NDP in Alberta probably made Harper hit the roof. Helena is a bitch to her staff and probably a cokehead so Harper cut them lose. But there have been bad stories about Shorty since before he was elected from business people he ripped off. Maybe both the Cons and the Opposition are afraid he will play the race card in a large Indo Canadian riding. Anyway the Cons really vet candidates badly.

Sat, 2010-05-15 20:17

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RockyRacoon

They are not interested in personal scandals that individual MP's get themselves involved with.

Yet that is exactly what the Cons revert to character assasination and wedge issue politics that stigmatize and disenfranchise entire groups of people like women or gays in Karl Rove type fashion That is what the fear is over, having one's personal integrity challanged when the ruling party wants to hide it's own wrong doings

Sat, 2010-05-15 20:51

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KenS

Augustus wrote:

Now you are getting it. This is the first time you have made a good point on this thread.

This is what I was trying to get at in our previous discussions.

At least you can get compliments from yourself.

But bullshit. All you were saying was that it wasn't an issue. I said no such thing- I only said it is risky to try forcing it into being an issue.

Mon, 2010-05-17 00:58

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RevolutionPlease RevolutionPlease's picture

Triphop wrote:

Helena is a bitch to her staff and probably a cokehead so Harper cut them lose.

We don't call women bitches here. Not even Cons.