babble quote hall of fame - part 1000

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"... isn't it possible for left-wing people to study economics in order to present an alternate viewpoint?

It's not "economics" that is right-wing.  It's right-wing economics that's right-wing.

Any critique we do of right-wing economics is also "economics" - [url=http://rabble.ca/comment/1072112/Interesting-KeyStone%C2%A0]Michelle[/ur...

[url=http://rabble.ca/babble/national-news/gary-doer-defends-alberta-oilsands... true:[/color][/url] - talking about Gary Doer crossing the floor and becoming Harper's mouthpiece:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

We support the NDP because it is the best of the bunch and then feel let down when the best of the bunch is not only not good enough but pinch-hitting for the other side.

Upon learning that the new "Sacrifice Medal" would be awarded also to those Canadian soldiers who died by accident or illness, [url=http://rabble.ca/babble/babble-banter/sacrifice-medal-canadian-soldiers-... opined:[/color][/url]

Snert wrote:

They need a special Medal Of Adequacy.  Perhaps a slightly hand-drawn circle shape in a practical and inexpensive metal like nickel.  A coat-of-arms could feature a beaver rampant, giving a thumbs up, and holding a Tim Horton's cup, across from Don Cherry holding a hockey stick and making a fist.  Beneath could be inscribed "Ego Sum Victor" (Latin for "I'm a winner").  All members of the CF who are not convicted of High Treason or found to be a prank ("Lt. Hugh G. Rection") would be recipients.

Fidel wrote:

 

Unionist wrote:

Together, we must never allow the wheel of history to be turned backwards.

 

Too late! Because in the 1990's our federal Liberals turned back the clock on social spending in Canada by several decades. The UN has chided Canada on a regular basis for pulling the social safety net out from under women and children. Violence against women is said to start with poverty, and poverty is one of the root causes of domestic violence. Canada's abysmally low social assistance levels have been declared a violation of women's rights as well as children's rights. We needed rolling back the rollbacks well before the Liberals decided to spend billions on an expensive gun registry bureaucracy with illegal handguns pouring in over the border past flimsy border patrols.

 

Has it really been months since our last classic turn-of-phrase?

Oh well - here's a great one from tonight:

N.Beltov wrote:

Trolling is a form of teenage rebellion for those too wimpy for socialism.

j.m., as you know, since you posted in that thread, I paraphrased what I viewed as a trolling "newbie" who claimed that  "Socialism is a form of teenage rebellion for well-to-do kids. The smart ones outgrow it."

This is not the thread to argue about it.

N.Beltov wrote:

j.m., as you know, since you posted in that thread, I paraphrased what I viewed as a trolling "newbie" who claimed that  "Socialism is a form of teenage rebellion for well-to-do kids. The smart ones outgrow it."

This is not the thread to argue about it.

 

No argument here. I was just debating how this was a classic: the ol' 'take the piss on the newbie' move.

Fidel wrote:

Really, j.m., this is not the thread for squabbles.

My mistake, Fidel. I should have realized that it was just for cherishing already-posted snark and remembering the days when newbies "would just take it"!

Lard Tunderin Jeezus wrote:

...speaking of incapable of learning the ropes...

When are you going to recognise good advice and accept it in the spirit in which it is offered, j.m.?

By "not learning the ropes" you mean that I didn't learn to shut up when the seasoned babbers snarked? Or are you referring to the other suggestion for newbies surviving on babble: dish insults, repeat, and all that?

Lard Tunderin Jeezus wrote:

Luckily, I happen to have a 'dog with bone' translation program.

Answer after translation: not today

Strange, I'm not the one (nor two) holding onto it so dearly. You'd think the act would get old. I guess someone will have to ask me the same question after being here for ten years.

Speaking of the embarrassing horror of some hailing the accession of an Arab American to the Miss America throne, [url=http://rabble.ca/babble/international-news-and-politics/arab-american-mu... reflected[/url]:

Unionist wrote:

I think it's time for a Muslim Playboy centrefold - to celebrate the end of both racism and misogyny in Amerika. Thoughts?

To which ennir replied, without hesitation:

ennir wrote:

Rahim Jaffer?

Frustrated Mess, carefully choosing the appropriate words to put Libby Davies' predicament in context:

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"For Mr. Harper to deride an MP respected and known for her hard work, compassion, and dedication to human rights as a "terrorist" is less surprising than it is offensive. Our Prime Minister stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the man who gave orders to his military to attack a peace convoy on the high seas. The same man who has called for the ethnic cleansing of an indigenous population. The same man who leads a nation accused of war crimes. As well, our Prime Minister has left Canadians to languish in foreign jails. He has abused the laws of the land and state institutions to silence those with whom he disagrees. He has sought to corrupt parliament and Canada's democratic tradition. He has brought into disrepute and politicized the office of the Governor General. He has gagged and intimidated scientists and bureaucrats whose jobs are to safeguard Canadians. He  has militarized the streets of Toronto to silence those who would speak to the leaders of the world's leading democratic nations. Our Prime Minister has run from parliament, and sought to cover-up possible crimes by his own government in turning suspects over to an Afghanistan regime that tortures prisoners and permits the rape of women by their husbands. Stephen Harper, lacking courage, compassion, or a sense of justice has not the moral or ethical right to be critical of anyone. To bandy about the word "terrorist" in an attempt to impose silence speaks more to the gutter from which Stephen Harper has emerged than it does a principled and decent politician such as Libby Davies. I apologize that I must even acknowledge such a crass and baseless smear from such a crass and classless man, but in the interest of open dialogue, in a free and democratic society, the right to free expression must be defended from those, like Stephen Harper, who would brush aside such rights in the interests of ideological dogmatism. "

Bravo.

Tommy_Paine wrote:

It seems whether it's politics or advertising, the rule is to represent the opposite of what you are. TD merges with Canada Trust, reduces the traditional CT hours, then advertises that they have longer banking hours. GW Bush evaded service in Vietnam, so they call a decorated Vietnam war hero a coward under fire, and Swift Boating becomes a term in our usage.

It's becoming a safe bet that whatever someone says, you can believe the opposite. Micheal Bryant's post get out of jail free press conference being a good example; everything he said wasn't true, is true, and everything he said was true, wasn't.

But what do I know, being rich, never worked a day in my life, under endowed and unimaginative lover that I am?

edmundoconnor wrote:

-=+=- wrote:

Can't they defreeze WLMK?

I would have thought a seance would be more appropriate ...

For Beltov, a link.

Jeez, I get the impression you guys would argue over the colour of salt.

Fidel wrote:

Jeez, I get the impression you guys would argue over the colour of salt.

WHAT SORT OF SALT IS IT THOUGH!?

eta: sorry, I got a bit salty there...didn't I?

@Lard Tunderin Jeezus, Re your post 42:

Excellent quote of Frustrated Mess, I agree! Here's a link to the original, if anyone else needs it: http://rabble.ca/babble/rabble-reactions/why-was-person-banned-part-2#co...

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Well then just fucking do it and stop endlessly talking about how the nasty assholes in the bb are spoiling your parade.

kropotkin1951's response to Unionist's "I have a dream as soon as the assholes get out of my way" speech.

Merowe brings it on home, here

That is some deeply unpleasant shit you are pushing, Mr.Bone. How are we to think well of you if you insist on placing this insulting muck before us? The arguments - such as they are - are transparently contrived to give cover to some deeply racist beliefs. It is clear the beliefs came first and the arguments sloppily pastiched from cherrypicked factoids ripped from their contexts and smooshed together only after the fact.

World population is out of control because the brown people are reproducing without a care in the world - presumably because they're really stupid, perhaps its a genetic thing? - and rich western nations - hey, like the one we live in, coincidence or what? - urgently need to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION now!

Fuck me but you must be thick as a plank if you can't see your chain is being jerked. There's nothing wrong with some of the data, it is simply the construction that is put upon it that is so disheartening.

I'm no expert on matters Ethiopian but I do know their cultures, which have been around far far longer than our own evolved sophisticated coping strategies to deal with the episodic droughts in their harsh environment. But these have gradually broken down in the face of violence and civil war in which superpower meddling was a significant component.

Some cultures traditionally favoured high birth rates to compensate for infant mortality and it is not unreasonable to expect a delay - of a few generations perhaps - before they recalibrate to adjust to the improved expectations of modern living. Likewise in the wake of a famine it is entirely natural that a population increase the birthrate to replace those lost.

Now, take a nugget like 'the U.S. produces more than enough food and freshwater for itself' - on the face of it, fair enough. Until you realize its food production is based on an industrial agriculture dependent on imported fuel. The vaunted 'self-sufficiency' disappears in a puff of diesel fumes. Balance the playing field - let's see the US really do self sufficiency and forego the oil imports!

Rubbing salt into the wound, climate change driven by OUR culture and not those you are so keen to exclude from our earthly paradise is presumably the cause for declining wheat production. So OUR industrial agriculture is somehow fucking OTHER nation's food production - and they don't have the resources we do to deal with such problems.

I suppose as the global situation continues to deteriorate principally because of the criminal narcissism of the 'first world' we will see a lot more self-serving arguments from the privileged nations defending their right to their unfair slice of the pie. I'm glad I won't live forever.

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Le T crystallizes things into perfect perspective, in the Get beaten by nazis, lose your kids thread:

Le T wrote:

So, once upon a time I used to post on this internet msg board that took the existance of structual opression as a precondition for conversation. Since that's obviously not the case here, just humour me for a second and assume that CAS, the police, the media and politicians don't just have the best interest of the children at heart but are in fact part of a complex system of oppression.

What this story illustrates is the privilege of choice. These white folks are choosing to join the fight against racism and are being treated the same way as POC and Indigenous Peoples in a racist, colonial society. They are being physically attacked by nazis, they are having their children taken away (or threat of) by CAS, the police are not investigating crimes against them, the politicians are silent, and the media blame them for the obvious action of other people.

The interesting thing is that people (the media, Snert, ect.) suggest that these folks just stop doing what they are doing. And the truth is is that they could choose to stop and all of this would go away. The same is obviously not true for POC and I.Ps. So when we ask these parents to just stop what they are doing for the saftey of their children what we are really saying is "Hey stupid white people, why aren't you taking advantage of your white privilege, like me?!"

So--and I know this is going to be a bit confusing for some--to blame these folks for their situation is an inherently racist argument.

Jingles hammering another one out-of-the-park:

Jingles wrote:

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You must be thinking of Stephen Harper - $1000 per month per child.

It is the Duty of every woman of child-bearing age to bring forth many children. It is measure of the woman's Patriotism and Loyalty to the Homeland to Bless Her with as many soldiers, workers, and taxpayers as her natural capacity dictates, so that [s]we[/s] they can march forward and defeat our Enemies, by the Grace of God.

Should a woman "decide" to withhold from our Homeland the great bounty of her womb, her treason and heresy will not be ignored. Fortunately, with education, and personal private mentoring by the selfless learned men of the Party Leadership, her antisocial mistakes may be corrected, and she may in time become worthy of the title "Mother of the Homeland".

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N.R.KISSED wrote:

 

Your position is an unquestioning expression of the belief that the authority of the employer to set conditions of employment is tantamount. Your position ignores the historical realiteis that i mentioned earlier that overall conditions of employment across the board have got much worse over the last 30 years of class war. There has been an ongoing assault on working conditions and it is has been justified by race to the bottom rhetoric of globalization. Workers are too be greatful if they are not facing the same conditions as landless farmers and campensinos who have been forced off land that has been farmed by families for generations by the rapacious greed of corporations in search of minerals and other resources. The deeply impoverished end up in urban settings and are forced to work in conditions of squalor for subsistence wages. So don't complain too much, you could be next.

We are also speaking at a time when the most massive act of fraud has been carried out by corporate finance with the assistance of western governments. The working people are losing their life savings, jobs, pensions and homes as the financial elite demand bigger returns from their fixed casino economy. Yet you would imprison people for an act equivalent to raiding the supplies cupboard. I guess we need to make use of those prisons Harper, toews and day are building.

The reality is that people are actually taking action against crappy working conditions this is not fraud it is resistance and should be celebrated. It is similar to conditions in which people complain about welfare fraud the system is makes it so that the only way to actually survive is to engage in "fraud" For those working in the capistalist economy the choices are to go crazy, get sick, get fired but never take any time off that your overlord believes that you are not entitled to how dare you take action to enhance your life, relax spend time nourishing yourself.

IN one generation gone is the dream of people actually making a decent living been able to afford decent accomodation, without fear of homelessness, dream of a job that might be interesting and fullfilling of making all workplaces healthy and supportive environments where people might feel secure and thrive. No the insatiable greed of the elite needs to be satisfied above all else, there is no room for imagining a social structure that is acts in the interest of the majority of the inhabitants of the planet. No neo feudalism is upon us and the ruthless fight is on to determine who might be able to scrounge the scraps from the masters table. good luck with that...

..or the other option resistance, we collectively celebrate when people make decisions to challenge the beliefs that they are beholden only to the will of their employers

http://rabble.ca/babble/labour-and-consumption/taking-mental-health-day-...

However, I do have a nomination. N.R.Kissed layin' some truth on Sineed in the "Health Freedom" thread:

N.R.KISSED wrote:

Finally, your value judgement about psychiatry is just that and reflects precisely the faith in cure or treatment that you dismiss in claims of those who value "alternative treatments."