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Gaza Flotilla Stormed by Israel Part 4
Fri, 2010-06-04 20:37
#1
Maysie
Gaza Flotilla Stormed by Israel Part 4
Fri, 2010-06-04 21:15
#2
Agent 204
Liz Cheney demands Obama reverse position that unnecessary death is "tragic"
This is what she said:
Yesterday, President Obama said the Israeli action to stop the flotilla bound for the Gaza Strip was "tragic." What is truly tragic is that President Obama is perpetuating Israel's enemies' version of events. The Israeli government has imposed a blockade around Gaza because Hamas remains committed to Israel's destruction...President Obama is contributing to the isolation of Israel, and sending a clear signal to the Turkish-Syrian-Iranian axis that their methods for ostracizing Israel will succeed, and will be met by no resistance from America.
There is no middle ground here. Either the United States stands with the people of Israel in the war against radical Islamic terrorism or we are providing encouragement to Israel's enemies -- and our own. Keep America Safe calls on President Obama to reverse his present course and support the state of Israel immediately and unequivocally.
From here, via squishyball at ontd_political.
Fri, 2010-06-04 21:55
#3
remind
Just finished reading the end of the other thread, it is pretty damn sickening that Israel wants to target the whole, if the world does not want to comply with them...
Fri, 2010-06-04 21:57
#4
Bec.De.Corbin
Autopsies show 30 hits over the 9 bodies; most at close range. All wounds but one are from 9mm bullets.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100604/wl_nm/us_israel_flotilla_autopsies
Fri, 2010-06-04 22:50
#5
remind
How many are still missing?
Fri, 2010-06-04 22:58
#6
NO STRUGGLE OR INJURIES BUT THE RACHEL CORRIE HAS BEEN CAPTURED. COMMUNICATIONS JAMMED. REPORT FROM IRISH RADIO.
Fri, 2010-06-04 23:13
#7
Boom Boom
Any consequences now from Ireland, I wonder?
Fri, 2010-06-04 23:35
#8
What Are the Rights of the Palestinians to the Gaza Sea under the International law of the Sea
http://www.adalah.org/heb/docs/jun10/Diakonia.pdf
Freedom Flotilla Activists: 'Beaten on the Ship and at the Airport'
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip/spip.php?article1435
Italian activist returned to Rome and interviewed
"reported that THE VICTIMS OF THE ISRAELI ASSAULT ON THE FREEDOM FLOTILLA NUMBER 19 PEOPLE AND NOT 9..."
Fri, 2010-06-04 23:37
#9
N.Beltov
Ireland has a lengthy familiarity with martyrs of all sorts. Going back, well, centuries. The origin of the modern republic, in fact, despite the atrocity of partition, followed English/British atrocities in 1916. Following Brit executing people in wheelchairs and other acts of "civilization". (James Connolly et al) But a turning point nevertheless. A change in public consciousness. Enough is enough. And so on.
A Sharpeville turning point. Irreversible. Choke on it, ya *ucking racists.
Fri, 2010-06-04 23:45
#10
How many are still missing?
The reports I have read is that 6 activists are still missing from the first group of ships.
One Turk was quoted in Al-Jazeera as saying the Israelis had thrown people overboard.
And Kevin Neish, the Canadian activist, said on the rabble podcast that one of the Turks who challenged the Israelis during their detention on the largest ship (by refusing to sit down) disappeared at the airport.
Obviously, in these sorts of situations there are a lot of rumours. But at the very least, this shows why an independent investigation of what happened is so necessary.
Fri, 2010-06-04 23:48
#11
Free Gaza: Rachel Corrie Boarded Equipment Jammed
http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/press-releases/1209-rachel-corrie-boarde...
"Speaking about Minister Micheal Martin's statement earlier in which he said those on board the Rachel Corrie had rejected a so-called deal that would involve them docking in the Israeli port of Ashdod, Jenny Graham said:
'We will have no part in a deal that involves us legitimising the siege of Gaza. We intend to continue on our mission to deliver our cargo of aid and supplies to the people of Gaza. This has always been our intention.'
Fri, 2010-06-04 23:58
#12
Boom Boom
I've seen so many links over the past few days that I simply can't remember the source - didn't the Irish PM say there woould be consequences for Israel if they grabbed the MV Rachel Corrie?
Sat, 2010-06-05 00:05
#13
Oy begorrah, do ye remember the great latke famine of '11?
Sat, 2010-06-05 00:05
#14
Latest tweet from Free Gaza:
SKY NEWS reports they talked to passengers just now. They have NOT been boarded and are on their way to Gaza.
Sat, 2010-06-05 00:19
#15
Boom Boom
Weird.... because the Belfast Telegraph says: Rachel Corrie aid ship 'seized by Israeli navy'
excerpt:
The activists on board the ship reported via Twitter that three boats were following them for around twenty minutes.
Israeli forces then boarded and reportedly placed passengers under arrest.
Guess we'll get the full story tomorrow.
Sat, 2010-06-05 00:22
#16
Hopefully Israel will recognize that they can not win this war, and let the ships go to Gaza.
Unfortunately ships are easily boarded, maybe a way around that is to fly aid to the Palestinians by pasenger plane and drop the aid from the air.
Sat, 2010-06-05 00:26
#17
Boom Boom
Hopefully Israel will recognize that they can not win this war, and let the ships go to Gaza.
Unfortunately ships are easily boarded, maybe a way around that is to fly aid to the Palestinians by pasenger plane and drop the aid from the air.
Doesn't Israel control Gaza airspace?
Sat, 2010-06-05 00:41
#18
But how are they going to board an airplane in flight? And they are not foolish enough to shoot down a passenger plane that is on its way to Gaza to deliver, by airdrop, some fresh bagels from Montreal.
Sat, 2010-06-05 01:56
#19
Unfortunately ships are easily boarded, maybe a way around that is to fly aid to the Palestinians by pasenger plane and drop the aid from the air.
Yeah, now you're talking! Like the 1949 Berlin Airlift. It's time we start acting like the way we used to be.
Sat, 2010-06-05 02:12
#20
We are acting the way we used to. The only difference is that "Communists" have been replaced by "Terrorists" in our lexicon of bogeymen, and Palestinians are the original terrorists on that list.
Stevie-boy will be sending Israel an aid package any day now.
Sat, 2010-06-05 02:24
#21
Free Gaza Update - MV Corrie off coast of Gaza
http://twitter.com/freegazaorg
"From the BBC: IOF issued initial request to ship to identify. No warning to the ship. Not boarding ship yet. No contact for hour and a half...Al Jazeera reports that the Navy is insisting they go to Ashdod. Passengers say 'no'. Navy says they will drag boat to Ashdod. Not possible. According to the IOF the boat was stopped in international waters six minutes ago and that is legal...
Flotilla Activists 'Shot 30 Times'
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/20106535425983666.html
"Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the prime minister of Turkey speaking during a televised speech said: 'You Israel killed 19-year-old Furkan Dogan brutally. Which faith, which holy book can be an excuse for killing him? I am speaking to them in their own language. The sixth commandment says, 'thou shalt not kill.' Did you not understand? I'll say again. I say in English 'you shall not kill'. Did you still not understand? So I'll say to you in your own language. I say in Hebrew 'Lo Tirtzakh'.
Talking about Hamas, he said: 'They are resistance fighters fighting for their land. They are Palestinians. They won an election and now they are in Israel's prisons. I told this to the Americans, that I do not accept Hamas as a terrorist group.'"
Israel 'Committing Slow Drip Genocide'
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=129025§ionid=351020202
"The co-founder of the Free Gaza Movement, Greta Berlin says that 'Israel is committing slow drip genocide, drip by drip, Palestinian by Palestinian, child by child.' She said in an interview with Press TV on Thursday that if governments do not 'stand up and do the right thing to prevent Israel's slow motion genocide, the people need to take the initiative.."
Sat, 2010-06-05 02:29
#22
We are acting the way we used to. The only difference is that "Communists" have been replaced by "Terrorists" in our lexicon of bogeymen, and Palestinians are the original terrorists on that list.
Stevie-boy will be sending Israel an aid package any day now.
You know, of course, I was referring to sending humanitarian supplies to the Gazans, not sending any aid and abettance to Israel.
Sat, 2010-06-05 03:02
#23
Gaza: Infant Dies Due to Ongoing Siege
http://www.imemc.org/article/58861
"Palestinian medical sources reported Friday that an infant died at a hospital in Gaza after Israel refused to allow his family to transfer him to an Israeli hospital...
The infant was identified as Mohammad Khader, 7 months. The family of Khader tried to take him out of Gaza and filed several applications to Israel to allow the travel, but all of their applications were denied."
R.I.P Mohammad..
Rogue State: Erasing International Law in Israel's Gaza Flotilla Attack
http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio06042010.html
Remember Saturday, June 5 is the Gaza Freedom Flotilla Global Day of Action: Please participate
"Key legal points regarding the Flotilla assault...The UN Security Council has already weighed in on the blockade (of which the flotilla is now part), attacking it in Resolution 1860 for collectively punishing the people of Gaza. The resolution calls for
'the unimpeded provision and distribution throughout Gaza of humanitarian assistance, including food, fuel and medical treatment."
Sat, 2010-06-05 05:07
#24
Al Jazeera reporting that IDF are preparing to forcibly prevent MV Rachel Corrie from proceeding to its intended destination - the port of Gaza. Gunboats circling and three demands were made and refused by MV Rachel Corrie to proceed to the Israeli port of Ashdod...
Al Jazeera Live
Sat, 2010-06-05 09:21
#25
Agent 204
A Sharpeville turning point. Irreversible. Choke on it, ya *ucking racists.
I'm not sure how comforting that is; apartheid in South Africa lasted another thirty years after Sharpeville.
Sat, 2010-06-05 09:37
#26
Lard Tunderin Jeezus
It ain't nicknamed the Nazi Post for nothin'...
George Jonas: Crusade of the Peace Terrorists
A blockaded coast is a war zone. An attempt to breach a naval blockade, even if it’s only to distribute crutches, is an act of war. The laws governing war at sea permit intruding vessels to be boarded and inspected, and in some circumstances seized, detained or scuttled.
Activists of International Humanitarian Help, IHH, a jihadist group based in Turkey, along with their dupes and hangers-on aboard the Mavi Marmara and five other ships, were determined to break Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip. Pretending to protest what they were actually engaged in, belligerency, the flotilla disregarded the Israeli Navy’s warnings, and blithely continued on course to Gaza.
Spin, baby, spin!!!
Sat, 2010-06-05 10:39
#27
I changed the words of the classic song "I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill Last Night" to fit the day.
I Dreamed I Saw Rachel Corrie Last Night
I dreamed I saw Rachel Corrie last night,
alive as you and me.
"But Rachel", I said, "you're seven years dead."
"I never died" said she.
The bulldozer crushed you, Rachel,
in Rafah, they buried you alive.
"Takes more than that to kill a dream"
Says Rachel "I didn't die."
Standing there as bright as life
and smiling with her eyes.
Says Rachel "What they can never kill
went on to organize."
Everywhere around the world
When people make brave history
And stand together for human rights,
it's there you'll find Rachel Corrie.
Here's the original song:
Sat, 2010-06-05 11:10
#28
Israeli Military Forcibly Stops Aid Boat To Gaza - Again
http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/press-releases/1210-israeli-military-for...
"Just before 9 AM GMT this morning, the Israeli military forcibly siezed the Irish owned humanitarian relief ship, the MV Rachel Corrie...For the second time in less than a week, Israeli naval commandos stormed an unarmed aid ship, brutally taking its passengers hostage and towing the ship toward Ashdod.."
Israeli Troops Board Gaza Aid Ship
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/06/201064235620154213....
"...Meanwhile in Washington the US said Israel's blockade on Gaza was unsustainable. "We are working with Israel, the Palestinian Authority, and other International partners to develop new procedures for delivering more goods and assistance to Gaza,' Mike Hamer, a spokesman for the White House National Security Council, said. 'It remains a US priority to provide assistance to the people of Gaza, Hamer said.."
A Global Civil Society Campaign to De-Legitimise Israel?
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=51724
"If as expected, the UN Security Council remains politically impotent and refuses to penalise Israel for the killings of pro-Palestinian civilians on a ship carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza, what is the next course of action? A global civil society campaign to de-legitimise Israel? Formal or informal sanctions by individual states? Worldwide arrest warrants?
Sat, 2010-06-05 11:10
#29
Boom Boom
"It remains a US priority to provide assistance to the people of Gaza, Hamer said.."
If that indeed is the case, the US can either escort the international aid ships to the port of Gaza or else send its own aid ships into Gaza. Anything else is just words.
Sat, 2010-06-05 11:42
#30
But how are they going to board an airplane in flight? And they are not foolish enough to shoot down a passenger plane that is on its way to Gaza to deliver, by airdrop, some fresh bagels from Montreal.
I wouldn't want to bet my life on that.
Sat, 2010-06-05 11:45
#31
Spin, baby, spin!!!
On CP24 earlier I heard the capture of the Rachel Corrie reported as the "interception of a hostile aid ship". Whatever the f- that means.
Sat, 2010-06-05 11:57
#32
Cueball
A massacre too far.
I guess the IDF is getting so used to slaughtering people indisriminately and getting away with it that they forgot not to do it front of foereigners.
Sat, 2010-06-05 12:05
#33
On CP24 earlier I heard the capture of the Rachel Corrie reported as the "interception of a hostile aid ship". Whatever the f- that means.
"Take these books and medicine, jerk!"
Sat, 2010-06-05 12:09
#34
Boom Boom
Liz Cheney demands Obama reverse position that unnecessary death is "tragic"
As far as I know Obama has ignored this idiot. Anyone seen a response from Obama?
Sat, 2010-06-05 13:45
#35
Obama will never respond directly to either Papa or Baby Dick, but it's clear he's terrified of what they represent, of who's behind them.
Sat, 2010-06-05 14:09
#36
If you want to catch a glimpse of the true nature of the murderers that Obama and Harper are protecting, watch this video which was posted on YouTube by a Jerusalem Post columnist. It's a parody of "We Are The World", entitled "We Con The World", allegedly sung by the "Flotilla Choir". We don't normally link to obscenities, but I think it's important to understand the level of propaganda being issued by Israel around this event:
[url=http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/israelis-explain-and-mock-fl... Con The World[/url]
Sat, 2010-06-05 18:30
#37
We Will Be Back
http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/press-releases/1213-we-will-be-back
"Today, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hailed the peaceful outcome to the operation when they seized our ship in international waters in direct violation of maritime law. Through his speech writer, he said:
'We saw today the difference between a ship of peace activists, with whom we don't agree but respect their right to a different opinon from ours, and between a ship of hate organised by violent Turkish terror extremists.'
So we'd like to remind Mr. Netanyahu that the only hate evidenced on board all six boats on Monday morning came from the Israeli attackers. Israeli soldiers violently boarded the entire flotilla, beating, shooting and hooding passengers as though they were in Abu Ghraib..It was a bloodbath..
Therefore we are putting Mr. Netanyahu on notice that we are returning.."
Outrage from Denis Kucinich US House of Representatives - Letter to Barack Obama
http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/56-news/1214-outrage-from-denis-kucinich...
"...it is incumbent upon the Commander in Chief to call Israel to account for its conduct in planning and executing the deadly military attack in international waters upon a peaceful flotilla...Israel must account for our support.."
Notice of Blockade of Israeli Ships/Goods by Swedish Port Workers Union
http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/56-news/1212-notice-of-blockade-of-israe...
"Swedish Port Workers Union has today given notice of the blockade of all Israeli ships and cargo to and from Israel which is managed by the union members. The blockade will be effective at 00:00 Tuesday June 15 and lasts until 2400 Thursday June 24
The reason for the blockade is the unprecedented criminal attack on the peaceful ship convoy to Gaza.."
The Other Side of the Gaza Blockade
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-other-side-of-th...
'Taysir Al Burai is severely disabled. He requires round-the-clock medical care. If he were allowed to leave Gaza, he could make a full recovery, but Israel won't let him.."
Sat, 2010-06-05 18:49
#38
Is it correct that there were 3 Canadians on board the Turkish ship that were shot at and arrested? Why is the Canadian Government not saying anything. I read an article where Kevin Neish says they beat him, denied him food and water. WTH?
Sat, 2010-06-05 19:12
#39
Gaza flotilla activists unarmed: Canadian (and vid)
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/06/03/kevin-neish-gaza.html
According to this CBC piece there were 3 Canadians. As always our 'representatives' support Israel over them.
"Harper has been an unwavering friend of Israel and a great champion of Israel's right to defend itself. We deeply appreciate his support.." Benjamin Netanyahu
Sat, 2010-06-05 19:36
#40
Yet Another Glaring Contradiction in Israeli account of Flotilla Massacre
http://www.hybridstates.com/2010/06/yet-another-glaring-contradiction-in...
"The last few blog posts have focused on the contradictions - that is fabrications - coming out of the IDF Press Office...Here I focus again on the IDF effort to paint the humanitarian activists as 'terrorists'."
The Tacitus Principle: How Israeli Apologists Defend the Indefensible
http://meldungen-aus-dem-exil.noblogs.org/post/2010/06/04/the-agricola-p...
"Crime, once exposed, has no refuge but in audacity" - Tacitus
Sat, 2010-06-05 20:17
#41
Gaza flotilla activists unarmed: Canadian (and vid)
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/06/03/kevin-neish-gaza.html
According to this CBC piece there were 3 Canadians. As always our 'representatives' support Israel over them.
"Harper has been an unwavering friend of Israel and a great champion of Israel's right to defend itself. We deeply appreciate his support.." Benjamin Netanyahu
Thanks for this. I thought this Kevin was on the Challenger and not on the Turkish Ship? I guess they must have moved after sabotage to the Challenger.
Sat, 2010-06-05 20:19
#42
Propaganda Floats
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Propaganda+floats/3115334/story...
Zionist Rex...
EU To Propose Removal Of Gaza Siege
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=129169§ionid=351020605
Sat, 2010-06-05 21:15
#43
Gaza flotilla activists unarmed: Canadian (and vid)
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/06/03/kevin-neish-gaza.html
According to this CBC piece there were 3 Canadians. As always our 'representatives' support Israel over them.
"Harper has been an unwavering friend of Israel and a great champion of Israel's right to defend itself. We deeply appreciate his support.." Benjamin Netanyahu
Thanks for this. I thought this Kevin was on the Challenger and not on the Turkish Ship? I guess they must have moved after sabotage to the Challenger.
Neish was on the main Turkish ship. According to the rabble podcast interview (see above for link) he said he changed to the main ship because he thought it had a better chance of actually making it through the blockade to Gaza (the smaller ships being easier to pick off).
Sat, 2010-06-05 21:43
#44
Turkey Mulling Legal Options
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-212268-101-turkey-mulling-legal-o...
Israel Killed More than 9, Threw Wounded into Sea says Witness
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19566
Gaza Activist Recounts Ship Raid (and vid)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19563
"Member of Parliament and Palestinian activist Anette Groh speaks about her experience..."
Flotilla Attack - Eyewitness Account
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19555
"Sarah Colborne was on the boat attacked by Israeli commandos.."
Israeli War Crimes: From US Liberty to the Humanitarian Flotilla
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19565
"Israel's action today with US complicity is a prelude to the kind of deadly force it has in mind for sabotaging the recent Turkey-Brazil-Iran diplomatic agreement. In the face of Washington's [and Ottawa's] complicity with Israeli war crimes, the only road is to intensify the world-wide boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign against all Israeli products, cultural activities and professional exchanges.."
US-Israel: Gaza and Convoy Attack Reveals the Real 'Axis of Evil'
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19568
"The US-Israel axis must be faced down by the international community and legally held to account...The quarantine and disabling of the US-Israeli war machine will require a new international framework.."
Sat, 2010-06-05 22:24
#45
Bec.De.Corbin
But how are they going to board an airplane in flight? And they are not foolish enough to shoot down a passenger plane that is on its way to Gaza to deliver, by airdrop, some fresh bagels from Montreal.
Good idea but I thinkits one that would end badly for the aircraft crews.
Oh they'd shot them down alright... Problem is they could legally by international law shoot down an aircraft that violates their airspace and does not respond to their commands. Like it or not Israel has the right to defend its population from intruders. Just as those passengers, with our approval, used violence to defend themselves in international waters from those Israeli boarding parties Israel can claim the same thing in this situation. Aircraft can change course too fast and end up flying over Israel proper within minutes if not seconds from Gaza... who's to say they wouldn't change course and drop a few bombs along with some aid?
Sat, 2010-06-05 22:43
#46
Its been entertaining to read all the anti-semitic garbage on this site, including that from Kapos. I served in the IDF, including a stint in Shayetet 13, and I would do so again in a second.
Interesting that you all support organizations like Hamas and Turkey which committed genocide and which is now turning fundamentalist.
שיקפצו לי כל האנטישמים, כל הכבוד לצהל
Sat, 2010-06-05 22:50
#47
Maysie
Okay now bu-bye.
Sat, 2010-06-05 22:50
#48
UN Rights Chief Says Gaza Siege 'Illegal'
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=129136§ionid=351020202
"The UN Commissioner for Human Rights says the Israeli imposed blockade of the Gaza Strip is 'illegal' and must be lifted. The United Nations official, Navi Pillay said on Saturday that 'International humanitarian law prohibits starvation of civilians as a method of warfare and ...it is also prohibited to impose collective punishment on civilians..
I have consistently reported to member states that the blockade is illegal and must be lifted,' she said.'"
So there it is - will someone please convey the word on this to our multi-party Zionist cheering section in Ottawa...given they implemented their own Gaza blockade even before Israel...and these same people would deny us the term 'Israeli Apartheid'?
Sat, 2010-06-05 22:55
#49
Haven't read all the threads, so apologies if this has been posted.
Cynthia McKinney takes CBC "journalist" out to the woodshed and smacks him around, gets cut off.
Sat, 2010-06-05 22:57
#50
Anti-Occupation Demo Held in Tel Aviv
http://www.presstv.com/classic/detail.aspx?id=129194§ionid=351020202
"Thousands of people have held a demonstration in Tel Aviv to protest against the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories since the Six Day War of 1967 and the attack on the Freedom Flotilla.."
Sat, 2010-06-05 23:02
#51
Haven't read all the threads, so apologies if this has been posted.
Cynthia McKinney takes CBC "journalist" out to the woodshed and smacks him around, gets cut off.
Someone got schooled! Good for her!