Obama: year 2

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George Victor

Rob8305 wrote:

This oil spill has destroyed his presidency. Latest gallup tracking poll has it him at 44-48% net disapproval!! No way in hell does he get re-elected.  I just hope that the GOP doesn't nominate a nutcase like Sarah Palin because the presidency is theirs in 2012. Stick a fork in him. He's done.

You are talking from polls taken across an incredibly ignorant and naive population.  Perhaps you could break from poll-watching to describe just how Obama engineered the spill, very early in his first term?      And you live in hope of a GOP not dependent on the wingnuts?    Cry for us all.

Rob8305

George Victor wrote:

Rob8305 wrote:

This oil spill has destroyed his presidency. Latest gallup tracking poll has it him at 44-48% net disapproval!! No way in hell does he get re-elected.  I just hope that the GOP doesn't nominate a nutcase like Sarah Palin because the presidency is theirs in 2012. Stick a fork in him. He's done.

You are talking from polls taken across an incredibly ignorant and naive population.  Perhaps you could break from poll-watching to describe just how Obama engineered the spill, very early in his first term?      And you live in hope of a GOP not dependent on the wingnuts?    Cry for us all.

Oh believe me, I know that it is the policies of George W. Bush and his puppet master Dick Cheney that led to the deregulation that led to the safety lapses that led to this disaster and I know that President Obama had nothing to do with this and would do anything to reverse it.  None of it matters.  The fact is that the American public has turned against him.  I am so very ticked off. With the Kennedy endorsement, I was convinced that we were looking at the re-birth of a progressive liberal democratic party and thought of Barack Obama as the new Bobby Kennedy. 

In reality, what we have is Carter 2.0. He is a politically clueless, inept, tone deaf, and bumbling fool.  The Republican party was on the floor and dying a not so slow painful death.  Obama single handedly resurrected the GOP and has them on the verge of taking back both the house and the senate, an epic achievement-40+ house seat gain and 10 senate seat gain.  He could have used his immense first year popularity to pass a sweeping Canadian style health care law. Instead, he bumbled his way through it and ended up with a plan similar to the 1993 Republican alternative to President Clinton's plan.

He is a fool with no poltical skill whatsoever. I didn't see at the time but the only reason he won was because John Mccain was such an clueless bastard and Sarah Palin was a clueless raging lunatic.  A competent GOP campaign would have ate him for lunch. Without the economic crisis, Mccain woulld be president today. Obama was running the campaign from hell pre Sept-15th. Indeed, USA Today/Gallup had Mccain up by 10! among likely voters on Sept 7, 2008.

The dem party elders need to get him to decide not to run again in 2012.  A new nominee might have a better chance.

And yeah, I do weep as I thought that we were on the cusp of a great new progressive era the likes of which America hasn't seen since FDR. You remember the FDR comparisons back in December 2008 don't you? Instead, we got a guy that is as politically inept as Stephane Dion and no better than Carter politically.

Remember his immense global popularity? Thousands greeting him in Berlin? How beloved he was in Europe/Canada. He's squandered that too.

The guy is a joke and that homicidal maniac party, the rethuglicans, should thank their lucky stars that Obama became president. He saved them. I can't believe I supported him right from the time he announced in February 2007. Boy, boy, was I fooled by a smooth talker. Now, I'll have to endure another 8 years of Republican hell that will eclipse Bush/Cheney I'm sure come 2013.  I am not a happy camper as you can tell.

I still love him personally and hope and pray to god that he can turn things around but he just doesn't seem to have the demeanor or skill that successful popular momentuous 2 term presidents have had.

American politics/policy is a passion of mine. Even more so than Canadian strangely. lol.

George Victor

Obama is a "fool" and a "joke" but you "still love him personally and hope and pray to god that he can turn things around" ...but there is no mention of how the Great Unr...  the average masses of 'Merica got all confused as to who to blame for the destruction of the ecology of the Gulf of Mexico.  Love to hear how a more aggressively reforming pres. would overcome the rightwing bias of an entire news industry (led by its advertising corporations) and the gormless crew of Democrats who watch only the polling of the masses. Talk about poisonous feedback loops in nature.

Why would one ever compare Obama's 'Merica to a starving nation, angry at all things "big business" , in the time of FDR? Hell, M'Lord Black was very conscious that FDR saved capitalism, and wrote a very good biography on FDR applauding him for that act. As a student of "Merican politics, you'll have to read it sometime.

kropotkin1951

Obama is and has always been part of America's elite. He doesn't think outside the box because he believes in the right of business to control the world for the benefit of the american elite. The oil spill of course highlighted this since he ran on an anti-drilling platform (couldn't resist the pun) and then he changed his position just weeks before the spill to Drill Baby Drill.  His military reach is only limited by his supply of oil.

George Victor

Yeah, an "elite" black man. And both Mississippi and Alabama are decrying the new limitations on drilling in the Gulf.

Jesus, Kroppy....

kropotkin1951

What you think his colour bars him from the american elite?  Tell it to Condie Rice and Colin Powell.

George Victor

They are additives on a political agenda mate, with one thing in mind....

kropotkin1951

I agree and the one thing is imperialism.  Unfortunately there have always been people from every background willing to be the oppressor in exchange for the good life. To me it doesn't matter what colour the Harvard or Yale graduate is;  if they go on to serve the interests of the ruling class they are the elite no matter what there background.  Obama grew up in a privileged family and spent his university years at one of the most exclusive conclaves in the US.

George Victor

He got where he is by being damned bright, and  focused (read his first autobiography and consider the beginnings..."privileged family" be damned) and with the objective of uniting people...of course, using his colour to advantage. But the "elite", of Boston and Texas, and of course attached to finance and industry, have more than "imperialism" to fry. Imperialism is the product of the military-industrial-academic machine that uses such a public figure to its advantage. He has learned that it's not just a matter of finding middle ground,..that he's being allowed to sink in the quicksand - the wasteland - of public opinion. People who hate black and who love guns. Some prospect for the future, eh? White voters of the middle are decamping at a great rate.

And give me the name of the person who's going to be so self-sacrificing as to take up the liberal-ethnic cause in his stead...while also making the pitch  for economic growth and building a green economy, employing folks at more than the sale of goods manufactured in China and India.

C'mon, he's just an easy mark for those without the foggiest idea of how to get out of the capitalist rut ...while our species tries to ignore/stare down armageddon. Who expected him - or anyone - to be capable of turning it all around?  But you can't just throw in the towel, eh?  Not and look the kids in the eye.

 

Unionist

George Victor wrote:

Yeah, an "elite" black man. And both Mississippi and Alabama are decrying the new limitations on drilling in the Gulf.

You'll do a better job defending King Obama if you do a minimum of research. Obama is the prophet of offshore drilling. BP must have been part of the Palin Plot to Punish and Pummel the President:

[url=http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/31/nation/la-na-obama-drilling31-20... to unveil offshore drilling plans for oil, natural gas[/url]

That was March 31 - 2010.

It was described by environment-friendly types this way:

[url=http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/03/wtf-obama-expands-offshore-drill... Expands Offshore Drilling Far Beyond Bush[/url]

And I thought we had all noticed this on babble two years ago:

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While campaigning for the White House, Obama called for increased, targeted drilling.

But slowly, cautiously, he is trying to close the barn door after the horses which he released have gone. I'll give him credit for that, I guess.

George Victor

But, of course, that leaking well was NOT a result of Obama's move.   He has seen the error of depending on big oil's claims of safety, but the southern white leadership is salivating after the economic benefits of drilling NOW. 

How juvenile to say that he is responsible for what has happened.

Maysie Maysie's picture

Cut out the name calling.

Sheesh.

Closing for length.

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