South Africa marathon fussball mania II

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South Africa marathon fussball mania II

 

...et ca continue:

http://www.fifa.com/

 

 

DaveW

opening kick: will African fans care if no African teams are left playing?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/sports/soccer/20cameroongame.html?ref=global-home

 travelling recently in Ethiopia, it seemed everyone everywhere, even in the most remote regions, was linked up to English Premier League teams (Arsenal is Life, etc.) and other Champions League soccer,

so the personalities on the European and Latin American teams are very well known across the continent;

we will see who cheers for whom if Brazil knocks Cote d'Ivoire out tonight ....

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Kiwis hold World Champions Italy to a draw. Minnowphobia continues for the big European powers.

Les bleus are not looking le best. Chelsea star Nicolas Anelka (or Abdul-Salam Bilal, his Muslim name) has been sent home by lunatic coach Raymond Domenech, who, when he told Anelka he was playing out of position at halftime during the France-Mexico game, got the blue-tinged response "Va te faire enculer, sale fils de pute!" Heh. Anyway, the entire French team is now en grève: to a man they sat out of training today in support of Anelka, despite desperately needing a win to survive to the next round. The team director Jean-Louis Valentin, in response to that, has resigned in disgust.

Tommy_Paine

 

The team is cursed for cheating their way in.

DaveW

 

revolte des starlettes:

 hilarious collapse of French team;

http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/fo/pierrotlefoot/article/1269609/

England soon to follow?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/21/frank-lampard-england-world-cup

 

Caissa

Portugal 3- DPRK 0 in 56th minute.

How high will it go?

ETA: 4-0 in the 59th

ETAA: 5-0 in the 81st

ETAAA: 6-0 in the 86st.

I wonder if Dear Leader is watching?

ETAAAA: 7-0 in the 89th.

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Caissa wrote:

Portugal

oh fork, little portugal is too close to where i live.  I'm sleep deprived.

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Caissa wrote:

Portugal

oh fork, little portugal is too close to where i live.  I'm sleep deprived.

Caissa

Switzerland down to ten men  at the half hour mark.

Can Chile win?

DaveW

so North Korea's big goal will remain that of Ji .... that WAS good

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Wow. 7-0. I guess that means Côte d'Ivoire is out, unless they can make up a nine-goal difference on Portugal. Too bad. They have fantastic kits and Africa's best team (imo).

The ref who red-carded Behrami is the same nitpicky (i.e. awful) ref who officialed the France-Mexico game. The elbow wouldn't normally merit a staright red in this kind of match but to this guy, who makes sure you deliver free kicks from the very blade of grass on which the foul took place, there was always the danger. It's a shame. He's one of those refs who needs to make sure his name is mentioned as many times as the players'.

ETA. Now 8 yellow cards and one red by this referee. The interesting thing is that Switzerland is play-acting to try and draw more cards for Chile--they've already ensured that two Chilean players will miss the next match. But if Chile wins this game, Switzerland will actually want Chile to beat Spain if they want to qualify: so by racking up cards against the Chileans while down to ten men, it strikes me that Switzerland isn't doing itself any favours!

bekayne
Caissa

Spain-Honduras has kicked off.

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The honking persists. My brain is functioning at an even lower level than usual due to sonic distrubances reaching my bed so I'm not going to dress this up in any way.  This is my token porn protest post in a petro-chemical football game thread. Whereever you are I hope it's not in a winning ethnic neighbourhood and for the sake of your soul that you are screaming your joys and sorrows too and not just typing them onto the web.

Caissa

RSA 1- France 0 in the 20th minute. It looks like those cheating French are going home. Au revoir. 

ETA: and France is now a man down.

ETAA: 2-0 after 37

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How humiliating for Les Misérables. Lesson? Cheating the luck of the Irish will end in misfortune and despair.

ETA. I'm watching Uruguay - Mexico. Uruguay scores at the stroke of half time. 1-0.

Papal Bull

Well, this sucks. The France-RSA game isn't on CBC or something. I've been channel surfing all morning and can't find it!

 

edit: never mind, it was way down in the French language channels.

Caissa

The game is also online Papal Bull. Is anyone watching the mexico-Uruguay game?

Papal Bull

Yes, I have been for a while. Both teams are amazing. I am super happy it looks like they are both going to advance. Uruguay is up one nil' over Mexico. Uru has had some amazing, amazing attacking. Probably the best match I've seen so far, and #9s wicked header into the net was faaaaaaaaabulous.

Wilf Day

Papal Bull wrote:
I am super happy it looks like they are both going to advance.

OMG. How can you fail to cheer for South Africa to get a miracle?

Wilf Day

Papal Bull wrote:

Well, this sucks. The France-RSA game isn't on CBC or something. I've been channel surfing all morning and can't find it!

 

edit: never mind, it was way down in the French language channels.

And on Bold, where I'm watching it.

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Wilf Day wrote:
OMG. How can you fail to cheer for South Africa to get a miracle?

Loved the belief and determination by Mphela after scoring the second first-half goal for SA grabbing the ball from the disgraced French net and running it out to the centre circle because he wanted more goals. Take that, roosters. The only thing I wanted to see--to warm Irish hearts--was Thierry Henry sent off in disgrace. Some Irish friends of mine are speculating that seeing this French disaster brought more joy than the inevitable Irish exit in the round of sixteen would have.

At any rate, Uruguay top the group and Mexico advance as well. That's who I had in my pool, but I thought Mexico would come first.

DaveW

Catchfire wrote:

How humiliating for Les Misérables. Lesson? Cheating the luck of the Irish will end in misfortune and despair.

People forget that: France snuck in to the Cup after  a wrong call on Henry's hand ball vs Ireland.

bekayne

DaveW wrote:

Catchfire wrote:

How humiliating for Les Misérables. Lesson? Cheating the luck of the Irish will end in misfortune and despair.

People forget that: France snuck in to the Cup after  a wrong call on Henry's hand ball vs Ireland.

According to Parreira in the press conference after the game, Domenech refused to shake his hand because of something he thought Parreira had said a few months ago to the effect that France didn't deserve to be there

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Who forgets Henry's handball? It's all I've heard every time someone mentions France and the World Cup at all!

Fidel

Go Nigeria!

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Sadly, Nigeria become the third African team to be eliminated from the World Cup. It's Uruguay - South Korea and Argentina - Mexico in the next round.

Caissa

England 1 Slovenia 0 in the 23rd minute.

Fidel

England? GO yew bastaarrrdszzuh!

Caissa

If England wins they are through to the round of 16.

Now we need Algeria to hold the US to at least a draw to keep them from advancing.

Fidel

It says Milner and Gerard would miss the next match if booked. What if they are booked the very next game? Would they miss the next match after that?

Waw? Rooney with the goal post. Give ova.

DaveW

FIFA is good for updates:

http://fr.fifa.com/

NorthReport

Who needs TV any more.

CBC is doing a superb job of carrying the matches online, even offering a choice of which match to watch, if 2 are being played at the same time.

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Last-gasp winner by Landon Donovan to top Group C! Is it England and Germany in the next round? Or will it be Serbia? Ghana?

nussy

Donovan showed class after the game. He was asked about the disallowed goal and he said. We can moan about it or go on and score another one. 

 

 

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Yes, but he also said we embodied the American spirit tonight, which quickly evaporated any goodwill I had developed due to their plucky resilience and misfortune.

al-Qa'bong

Caissa wrote:

RSA 1- France 0 in the 20th minute. It looks like those cheating French are going home. Au revoir. 

 

Zût flûte, quel débacle. 

I don't know which bleus is most appropriate now; this one, this one, or this.

Anyway, as far as cheating goes; to this hockey guy it seems that a lot of the succcess of a football team is predicated on its ability to cheat successfully.  To cite but one example, a guy gets taken off the field on a stretcher, the "culprit" is thrown out of the game, then the hitherto mortally-injured player comes back without missing a step.  As Don Cherry would say, there's no honour in that.

Caissa

PARIS - France's presidential palace says Thierry Henry will meet with President Nicolas Sarkozy to discuss the national team's World Cup debacle.

Spokesman Franck Louvrier says that France's all-time leading scorer and former captain asked Sarkozy for the meeting, which will take place Thursday.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=325441

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Catchfire wrote:

Yes, but he also said we embodied the American spirit tonight, which quickly evaporated any goodwill I had developed due to their plucky resilience and misfortune.

Right.  Wouldn't want any tinge of American nationalism...in an event positively sopping with nationalism.  Wink

500_Apples

Caissa wrote:

PARIS - France's presidential palace says Thierry Henry will meet with President Nicolas Sarkozy to discuss the national team's World Cup debacle.

Spokesman Franck Louvrier says that France's all-time leading scorer and former captain asked Sarkozy for the meeting, which will take place Thursday.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=325441[/quote]

Absolutely pathetic that the leader of the country is spending time on this game.

What's bad is that a lot of people are going to think France only did badly because of their coaching problems. They did badly because Uruguay and Mexico are good teams, and because they're reverting to what they were before Zinedine Zidane.

500_Apples

Seriously Catchfire, I don't expect Donovan to say "In spite of our victory, we carry forth with a heavy heart due to our homeland's history of neocolonialism against countries like Algeria".

The USA is a fun team to watch, I cheer for them for a few reasons. As I grew up in Canada, the USA is the country I have the most in common with among those that make the world cup. Also, I kind of relate to them. In HS I played soccer even though the cool sport was basketball. Many of those players were probably told they should be playing real sports like baseball or (American) football. I watched the USA-Algeria game today. Donovan and Altidore were excellent players. At the end, Altidore was running toward the net after deeking out a few Algerian players, he would have scored but they tripped him.

Incidentally, my second favourite team of the tourney is Ghana, because I like the idea of an African team doing well.

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Seriously Catchfire, I don't expect Donovan to say "In spite of our victory, we carry forth with a heavy heart due to our homeland's history of neocolonialism against countries like Algeria".

Hahaha. Why not?

Ok ok. So I don't expect much from footballer interviews. It was still an eye rolling moment, mostly because the US is so bad at soccer (I don't rate Donovan at all and Altidore missed a sitter--the only USian players worth their salt are Clint Dempsey and Tim Howard). I probably would have rolled my eyes too if Frank Lampard said that his team played like Englishmen today--no, I would at least have rolled my eyes, and probably vomited.

Speaking of patriotism, has anyone seen this hilarious Carlsberg commercial? It's like patriotism on amphetamines. Can you catch all the irrelevant and random sports references? What the hell is Phil Taylor doing there, and why does he have darts on him? I mean seriously, WTF?

500_Apples

Catchfire wrote:
Hahaha. Why not?

Ok ok. So I don't expect much from footballer interviews. It was still an eye rolling moment, mostly because the US is so bad at soccer (I don't rate Donovan at all and Altidore missed a sitter--the only USian players worth their salt are Clint Dempsey and Tim Howard). I probably would have rolled my eyes too if Frank Lampard said that his team played like Englishmen today--no, I would at least have rolled my eyes, and probably vomited.

Among other things, nothing good can come of that comment. The most likely outcome would be a lot of offended people in Algeria (it would be condescending to the Algerian team), and mockery from the late-night talk shows in the USA.

There's not much of a history of celebrities taking useful political stands in the USA. These are people in their 20s who either skipped university or majored in communication studies. I knew a national-level athlete a while back, he wasn't an idiot, pretty smart actually, but he did have much less time to read books and pay attention. Following that, even if they say something intelligent, the media will make it sound idiotic because ridiculing is so much fun.

If Donovan or whoever want to use their level-2 celebrity status to take on a social mission they can already do a lot by encouraging the popularity of the sport in the United States. I'm completely serious about that... it would be a net-positive for the USA and for the world. In the USA, it's a sport that lower-income people can play, and currently basketball is the only option. It's also a sport that shorter people can play, it's always better to have more options for these things. Lastly, if the USA became serious about the game, they would indirectly acquire cognitive awareness that the rest of the world exists.

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There's not much of a history of celebrities taking useful political stands in the USA. These are people in their 20s who either skipped university or majored in communication studies. I knew a national-level athlete a while back, he wasn't an idiot, pretty smart actually, but he did have much less time to read books and pay attention. Following that, even if they say something intelligent, the media will make it sound idiotic because ridiculing is so much fun.

One of the interesting things about sport in the UK is the interviews. Footballers are almost 100% working class blokes with working class accents--and they very much fit the mold of, say, hockey players in Canada. They went to public school, but spent most of their time away training or on tournaments, and had only eyes for their sport. As a result, their interviews are laughably simple: "At the end of the day we have to give 100%, etc.) On the other hand, Rugby players, another hugely popular sport, all went to private school, because that's where you learn rugby. So their interviews are actually quite erudite in comparison, often with useful analysis and thought. Not to mention their accents mark them as a member of the upper classes. Once you get to cricket, well, Wayne Rooney won't be playing at Lord's anytime soon.

Wilf Day

Caissa wrote:
Now we need Algeria to hold the US to at least a draw to keep them from advancing.

Don't worry. Ghana is able for them.

bekayne

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As a result, their interviews are laughably simple: "At the end of the day we have to give 100%, etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8ZL_gcTSM

Wilf Day

For further thoughts on the first African World Cup, see this rabble feature and my comment.

nussy

Love em or hate em this is class.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEbDZYitX4

Caissa

Slovakia 1 Italy 0 in 25th minute.

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2-0!

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It appears that Italy (trailing 2-0 with about 15 minutes left) is...toast.

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