For what its worth, I don't want to give the impression people cant have the discussion.
But I am addressing your expectations. And how can you expect people to park the polarization?
I have these kinds of discussions on the issue with friends and family, because I know the depth of the residual sympathy for Israel and the Zionist project despite how revolted people have become over Israel's actions over the last few years.
But I frankly see no reason to have this discssion here. I'm listening, or I wouldnt be here now. But I havent heard anything that would change my mind.
I guess I take the pragmatists approach. Attempts at being moderate on this clusterfuck of issues strongly tend to degenerate into apologia for Israel, which at best is a mourning of the sterile futility of that husk called 'Israeli moderates'. And discussing that is a waste of time.