Layton, Davies, and rest of NDP offered trip to Israel

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Durrutix

The worst human rights violation in modern Canadian history....and....our "social democratic" party -- led by jack layton -- condemns the police provocateurs -- who are themsvles police! 

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. 

A monumental absense of balls is what is apparent here.   By this twerp.  Layton is a complete pussy, repeatedy bowing down to cops and criminals. 

Cynthia McKinney makes Jack Layton look like a massive wimp.

 

Durrutix

Tinman 480 wrote:

remind wrote:

the nubbs are getting bigger too

Great rebuttals guys, keep it up, yer tearing me apart with your logic and reason.

Fatuous. 

Look it up.   Great word.  And great way to describe you.  :)

writer writer's picture

103 posts! Closing time!

remind remind's picture

Durrutix wrote:
The worst human rights violation in modern Canadian history....and....our "social democratic" party -- led by jack layton -- condemns the police provocateurs -- who are themsvles police! 

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. 

A monumental absense of balls is what is apparent here.   By this twerp.  Layton is a complete pussy, repeatedy bowing down to cops and criminals. 

Cynthia McKinney makes Jack Layton look like a massive wimp.

 

Is it not hilarious the way these guys out themselves without their even knowing it?

 

Guess Harper must be getting huge flack if they want to try and turn the dial away from him.

 

By the way I have reported you

Ken Burch

Nubbman480:

"Great rebuttals guys, keep it up, yer tearing me apart with your logic and reason."

And saying Libby Davies is an antisemite when you know perfectly well that she's nothing of the sort IS logical?

You owe the woman an apology for the slander.

Saying that Palestinians have lived under Occupation does not equate to a hatred of Jews.  And(even though I'm not an all-out antizionist)neither does supporting a single-state solution to the I/P dispute.  The Palestinians are not Nazis, and their objections to Zionism were never about Israel being Jewish.  They'd have had the same reaction if anyone ELSE had driven them out of their homes.

Is there a REASON you think your style of argument will somehow make everyone here see the Tory blue light?

Durrutix

By the way I have reported you

Wow.  That's very noble of you.  What did you "report" me for, just out of curiousty?  Dude, if you disagree with me, make it known on the threads.   We can talk abou it.  I neither need nor desire special treatment.  

Durrutix

Is it not hilarious the way these guys out themselves without their even knowing it?"

What are you talking about? 

I'm not into your whole NDP-obsessive bit.  Is that so hard to understand?

Tinman 480

Ken Burch wrote:

And saying Libby Davies is an antisemite when you know perfectly well that she's nothing of the sort IS logical?

You owe the woman an apology for the slander.

Saying that Palestinians have lived under Occupation does not equate to a hatred of Jews.  And(even though I'm not an all-out antizionist)neither does supporting a single-state solution to the I/P dispute.  The Palestinians are not Nazis, and their objections to Zionism were never about Israel being Jewish.  They'd have had the same reaction if anyone ELSE had driven them out of their homes.

Is there a REASON you think your style of argument will somehow make everyone here see the Tory blue light?

Tell ya what. I'll make you a deal. The day taht libby makes a SINCERE and heartfelt apology, I will too. If you are so upset with how the Palistinians are living, why then do you not go after Egypt for closing it's Gaza border crossing? [ I will grant you may have done this before I showed up, and if you have I recind the charge. ] I should point out that while the palistinians may not be nazi's and that is a  charge I did not lay, the government has a very long list of similarities to Hitlers Nazis of the 1930's and '40's. A quick read of the Hamas Charter makes this abundantly clear. I also disagree with your point about reacting the same if anyone else had driven them out. It simply is not true.

I use this line of argument for one reason. It works.

Durrutix

I said before that I had mixed feelings about the NDP.   I understand BOTH SIDES of the argument.   I've voted for the NDP no less than 5 times.  I'm not some anti-NDP assassin. 

However, when tens of thousands of people are brutalized by police and my supposed "party" says nothing, well, I'm liable to get a little upset. 

I'm astonished that you think I'm out of line for suggesting as much.  WTF?

George Victor

remind:

Is it not hilarious the way these guys out themselves without their even knowing it?

 

It is a measure of their IQ for sure, remind. But they also seem to lack the social mirror by which average folk can evaluate their social offerings.

Bacchus

I think they mean tinman not you durrutix

Stargazer

I'm pretty sure they mean the newest obnoxious brain dead troll Durritix - not you.

Ken Burch

Libby DID make a sincere apology.  And all she was guilty of was getting the date wrong.  She would have been right to say(and this was undoubtably what she meant)that Palestinians were expelled from their homes in massive numbers in 1948, and no one could object to that.

Still, even if you were to accept that Israel's existence was legitimate(and a lot of those who do no longer accept the founding mythos of 1948), wouldn't you have to agree that those Palestinians who were driven out of their homes in 1948(this involved the forcible creation fo a Palestinian Diaspora of 750,000 to 800,000, by most estimates)were the victims of an injustice and deserve not only compensation but, well, "sincere and heartfelt apologies" from the Israeli government?  Wouldn't you agree that they deserve an admission that their connection to the land is as deep as any of the people that the Israeli government CLAIMS to represent?  Wouldn't you have to agree that, as a bare minimum, they deserve "parity of esteem"?

And Hamas, if you were unaware of this, has stated that it is willing to accept a two-state solution.  Granted, they aren't MY favorite group either, but that willingness is what really mattters, not something on an old, dead piece of paper that nobody in the group even cares about anymore.

I do think Egypt has been wrong to close its border with Gaza, but you're being naive if you think that they aren't doing it because of American and Israeli pressure.  Nobody here has given Egypt a pass on anything.

 

remind remind's picture

are sexist dialectics that easily overlooked here?

 

because frankly i am getting fuckin sick of them.

writer writer's picture

Me too, remind. "A monumental absense of balls is what is apparent here.   By this twerp.  Layton is a complete pussy ..."

B O R I N G. Please, dudes. We're not all dudes. And balls aren't all that. And pussies are fricking powerful, babies. Watch out!

remind remind's picture

now won't someone please think of the balls and close this thread?

 

thanks writer did not think i was all alone.

Unionist

Polunatic2 wrote:

Would a trip like this be a violation of the BDS campaign? Are politicians in a different category than cultural workers? 

Too substantive, Pol2. It's more fun fencing with a troll. I asked the same question earlier in somewhat different form, but didn't get a reply.

 

Ken Burch

remind wrote:

now won't someone please think of the balls and close this thread?

 

thanks writer did not think i was all alone.

Before that happens, I thought I'd give the thread some MORE balls

 

And some pussy, as well:

 

Everybody happy, now?

6079_Smith_W

On the question of politicians visiting though, so long as Canada has diplomatic relations with a country (and even sometimes when we don't) opposition critics have to be free to do whatever they need to do to do their jobs, and that includes visits.
It ain't quite the same thing as a book tour, IMO.

writer writer's picture

That pussy would deflate those balls in, like, 5 seconds. For serious. Meow!

writer writer's picture

Maybe not the baseball. But baseballs are for scrotums.

Maysie Maysie's picture

Mod hat on.

For the record Durrutix, don't use sexist language on babble.

 

KenS

Unionist wrote:

Polunatic2 wrote:

Would a trip like this be a violation of the BDS campaign? Are politicians in a different category than cultural workers? 

Too substantive, Pol2. It's more fun fencing with a troll. I asked the same question earlier in somewhat different form, but didn't get a reply.

I replied, and soon after you asked. But no matter, go ahead and use it as a stick agian anyway, as if no one ever challenged you.

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Ok dudes, closing for length.

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