NDP Top Gun MP Don Davies to run for re-election in Vancouver Kingsway

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NDP Top Gun MP Don Davies to run for re-election in Vancouver Kingsway

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NorthReport

Don is hosting a Vancouver Kingsway party this Saturday, August 28, 2010 from 2PM to 5PM at Slocan Park in Vancouver. All progressives welcome. Smile

Ripple
Catchfire Catchfire's picture

I live in Vancouver Kingsway, having tragically moved from East Vancouver and one of a handful worthy MPs in the country. I just got the invitation for the barbeque. I don't think I'll be attending.

Ripple

Howdy, neighbour.  Alright, then ... which one of us shall run?

kropotkin1951

NDP top gun. Frown Surprised

A newbie in the shadow of people like Libby and Bill.  NR  I find your OP is a shamefull demotion of two of the finest MP's in the House. I like Don he is a nice guy but is it the fact that he is white male and straight that has made him the top gun in your eyes?  

ottawaobserver

Oh, for heaven's sake, kropotkin.  Obviously NR is trying to organize a picnic, and is inviting people to participate.  There is absolutely nothing nefarious or underhanded, or suspicious or exclusionary about it.  You don't want to go to a picnic, don't go.  But quit looking for a conspiracy theory in every single dinner invitation.  Jeebus.

NR, I'd love to attend.  Unfortunately I'm 3 time zones away.  Have fun, and keep up the good work.

Ripple

and he's the ndp critic for public safety and national security. 

 

 

Fidel

kropotkin1951 wrote:

NDP top gun. Frown Surprised

A newbie in the shadow of people like Libby and Bill.  NR  I find your OP is a shamefull demotion of two of the finest MP's in the House. I like Don he is a nice guy but is it the fact that he is white male and straight that has made him the top gun in your eyes?

Lots of white boys in the two old Bay Street parties and red chamber in Ottawa long time. 140 years. White and maleness in Ottawa is a byproduct of our obsolete electoral system. Don't like it? Then continue voting for the real and effective opposition party supporting electoral reform in our Northern Puerto Rico, the Federal NDP.

 

 

ottawaobserver

Well, he did a pretty effective questionning of the head of CSIS in July's committee meeting, since you bring that up.  Here's the transcript, and here's the video.  I bet he's a pretty formidable lawyer.

Fidel

The NDP had stiff questions for the Caucasian Security Intelligence Service? I'll eat barbeque with that guy anytime.

nicky

Kropotkin and Fidel:

Like Don Davies I am a "white boy" and, perhaps worse, a lawyer. (That's why I post under a pseudonym)

I gather that in your view this disentitles me from getting an NDP nomination.

My question is whether you would still allow me to work for the party, donate money or even vote NDP? To whom should I write for permission?

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Hey nicky, did anyone in this thread say that Don Davies was not permtted to run because he was white? Or, indeed, say anything to undercut his performance as an MP?

Fear not: white male lawyers will continue to call the shots in this country, and others, for a long time.

Ripple: neighbours, eh? I'd love to have a rabble contingent at this BBQ, but I'm out of town this weekend. Have fun, y'all!

NorthReport

All progressives are cordially welcome to attend Vancouver Kingsway MP Don Davies' Community Bar-B-Q in Slocan Park today, Saturday, August 28, 2010, from 2 PM to 5 PM.

 

nicky

Catchfire, that's the message I read into Kropokin's and Fidel's comments.

You also sound pretty close to saying the same thing.

 

Lachine Scot

Gimme a break, if you feel you are being oppressed as a white guy, this messageboard is probably the last place to complain about it.

 

anyways, i might go check out this picnic ;)

Fidel

nicky wrote:

Kropotkin and Fidel:

Like Don Davies I am a "white boy" and, perhaps worse, a lawyer. (That's why I post under a pseudonym)

I gather that in your view this disentitles me from getting an NDP nomination.

My question is whether you would still allow me to work for the party, donate money or even vote NDP? To whom should I write for permission?

I'm not crazy about the fact that our obsolete electoral system dictates that white, male and well educated candidates stand the best chance of winning a phony majority of votes in a majority of ridings across Canada. I don't like the fact that so many millions of votes are wasted every election. That's not how a modern democracy should work in my opinion, no. Our mathematically absurd FPTP method of electing political representatives is not an efficient electoral system by any means and should be scrapped.

In fact, FPTP is tantamount to electoral fraud.

If a phony-baloney majority of white or near-whites or wannabe whites are the ones doing the choosing over some larger true majority of eligible voters in a given riding, then this is a reality of our obsolete electoral system that any political party must deal with in order to have electoral success. And that's what I think about it.

 

NorthReport

Don's suggestion for Organized Labour to purchase some mainstream media, is one of the best suggestions I have heard of. What in the world are we waiting for Ken Georgetti and Jim Sinclair!

Quote:
"I think that, in this riding, the David Emerson factor is still there," Davies told the Straight by phone. "People know that what happened the last time they voted for a Liberal was they got a Conservative. They also have seen [Liberal leader Michael] Ignatieff move the Liberal party to the right."

 

 

http://www.straight.com/article-339968/vancouver/kingsway-riding-heats

 

Thanks Ripple

kropotkin1951

I apologize if anyone misconstrued my post as an attack on Don.  He is a great guy and I would work and vote for him if I lived in his riding.  I just hate the thread title and my post is directed at NR.  

Leaving aside the disrespect it shows to the other NDP members he is not a star he is a member of an effect BC caucus that works as a team. Also the idea of comparing him to an American fighter pilot I found rather annoying.  The message that rabble feed sends about the inclusiveness of the NDP and the NDP's anti-war message should be of concern to the centrists on this board instead of the knee jerk reaction of shoot at the messenger.

ottawaobserver

Probably not everyone is as eloquent as you, kropotkin.  Some people are just enthusiastically trying to publicize an event, and I think you've overreacted a bit.  Not to mention that you've introduced a kind of ranking of caucus members, into stars and just-team-members, which sounds pretty elitist to me (ahem).

kropotkin1951

ottawaobserver wrote:

Probably not everyone is as eloquent as you, kropotkin.  Some people are just enthusiastically trying to publicize an event, and I think you've overreacted a bit.  Not to mention that you've introduced a kind of ranking of caucus members, into stars and just-team-members, which sounds pretty elitist to me (ahem).

 

I actually said there are no stars only team members. It was the thread title that brought in the star idea and was why I complained.

What is it with you accusing me of starting what I am complaining about? That is a frat boy style attack favoured by Ottawa politicos.  Show me where my post says what you claim? If that is the best you got no wonder your team keeps loosing elections.  Go attack the right wing and leave me alone for awhile.  

The NDP vision is of fighter pilots slaying their enemies with great ace pilots. If that is the right message then so be it and excuse my pointing out my disagreement with that obviously superior electoral strategy.

ottawaobserver

kropotkin1951 wrote:

I actually said there are no stars only team members. It was the thread title that brought in the star idea and was why I complained.

What is it with you accusing me of starting what I am complaining about? .... Show me where my post says what you claim?

OK, here's where you first got my goat:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

NDP top gun. Frown Surprised

A newbie in the shadow of people like Libby and Bill.  NR  I find your OP is a shamefull demotion of two of the finest MP's in the House. I like Don he is a nice guy but is it the fact that he is white male and straight that has made him the top gun in your eyes?

Then there's this:

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Leaving aside the disrespect it shows to the other NDP members he is not a star he is a member of an effect BC caucus that works as a team.

So, you can see why I came away with that impression.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

That is a frat boy style attack favoured by Ottawa politicos.

It's going to be hard for me to be a frat boy, as a middle-aged woman. Whereas your attack on NR for imprecise language shows a distinct lack of solidarity, and unappreciation for someone who's just trying to organize a frikkin' barbecue.

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Go attack the right wing and leave me alone for awhile.  

No problem. And please follow your own advice as to worthy targets. NR's not one of them.

kropotkin1951

Imprecise language is a grammatical error not using war imagery in relation to the only party that is mildly anti-war.  

Sorry about the gender bias but I often see aggression as a male trait.  I did not call you a frat boy but merely suggested that your post had that tone. My apologies if you thought I implied you were a male.

ottawaobserver

No apology necessary whatsoever.

kropotkin1951

Maybe you should PM NR and let him know from an ally that the language is not on message.

ottawaobserver

I'm fairly sure he's probably got that message loud and clear by now.  No point gilding the lilly any further.

kropotkin1951

Nice story but you left out Bill again and others at the debate.  I got some really good photos at that event in Bill's riding but not this one.  

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/flungingpictures/86703326/

kropotkin1951
NorthReport

kropotkin,

 

Thanks for sharing your vivid imagination, and also the pics of the debate which helped to remind me of who all else was there. Smile

NorthReport

Thanks everyone for your participation. Chef Don and his team served up 900 hot dogs before they ran out. It was a beautiful sunny, summer Saturday in Vancouver, and everyone it appeared, seemed to be enjoying themselves immensely at the Vancouver Kingsway NDP Community Bar-B-Q in Slocan Park, except, that is, for a few Liberals that passed by.

Here's an interesting little anecdote about how to help win elections.

During the last federal election campaign, a Chinese debate was held in a Mall near Metrotown, in Burnaby. I think both the Con & the Lib candidates were Chinese, regardless, they both were fluent in Chinese, whereas Don's Chinese was somewhat limited. But that didn't stop Don. He went anyways. How is that possible you say? Don brought along former NDP candidate Gabriel Wu to help as a translater, so Don was able to fully participate in the debate. It was obvious the audience was impressed.

thorin_bane

After the initial meltdown and subsequent reaction meltdown, babble returned to its normal functions. In related news glaciers continue to shrink while the business class rapes (yes they are) the planet. SNAFU

 

Good on don having a nice hot dog lunch for constituents. Much as I love hot dogs they are generally not very good for you(probably cancereous) and I do eat them at least once a week. They aren't even cheap anymore. A 12 of all beef runs 5 dollars. Cheaper than salmon I suppose but for animal byproduct its a little expensive.

Debater

kropotkin1951 wrote:

NDP top gun. Frown Surprised

A newbie in the shadow of people like Libby and Bill.  NR  I find your OP is a shamefull demotion of two of the finest MP's in the House. I like Don he is a nice guy but is it the fact that he is white male and straight that has made him the top gun in your eyes?  

Why do you assume he is straight?