Galloway's Canada Ban Won't Be Reviewed....but...

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Mon, 2010-09-27 23:15

NDPP

Galloway's Canada Ban Won't Be Reviewed

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/09/27/mp-galloway-banned-kenney-fe...

"A Federal Court judge says he cannot review Immigration Minister Jason Kenney's decision to bar controversial former British MP George Galloway from Canada. In his ruling released on Monday, Justice Richard Mosley writes that since Galloway never actually tried to enter Canada after being warned the government would not let him in, there isn't much he can do.

However, Mosley, a former Crown Prosecutor, found the decision to prevent Galloway from coming to Canada 'a flawed and overreaching interpretation of the standards under Canadian law for labelling someone as engaging in terrorism or being a member of a terrorist organization..."

Mon, 2010-09-27 23:56

NDPP

and this version - the Toronto Coalition to Stop the War press release

http://www.rabble.ca/news/2010/09/federal-court-slams-government-interfe...

"Galloway and his supporters will announce in the coming days the details of an upcoming tour that will bring Galloway back to Canada.."

Tue, 2010-09-28 08:16

jtleroy

I frankly never could care less about "Showboat Galloway". He changed his views/politics and exhibited such bizarre behaviour that any work he did was always suspect.

Tue, 2010-09-28 08:17

Cueball

No showboats in Canada? Is that part of the anti-terrorism effort?

Tue, 2010-09-28 13:37

Merowe

jtleroy wrote:

I frankly never could care less about "Showboat Galloway". He changed his views/politics and exhibited such bizarre behaviour that any work he did was always suspect.

Bullshit.

Tue, 2010-09-28 23:23

thorin_bane

Double bullshit. I don't care that he is a showboat. This is more of that "champiagn socialist" crap where we are suppose to have some sort of mythical standard. I am tired of playing fair when everone else has an ace up their sleeve or bringing a gun to the NDPs knife fight.

We let the showboat "mission accomplished" non elected war criminal George double ya Bush into the country, but not a guy banned for bringing aid to a near internment camp region . OK good to know where our standards are.

Wed, 2010-09-29 06:21

N.Beltov

Yea, I'm looking forward to Galloway coming to Canada and ripping a new asshole for every Conservative in sight. I always find whining and crying Conservatives a deeply satisfying sight and there can never be enough of them.

Wed, 2010-09-29 07:53

NDPP

And he reminds us all just how dreary and dull the local pols by comparison - like watching and listening to paint dry

Wed, 2010-09-29 11:15

skdadl

James Clark's analysis of Mosley's decision is a terrific summary of a great and important decision re material support of terrorism: http://www.rabble.ca/news/2010/09/what-galloway-court-decision-means-fre...

Mosley's statements about what is and isn't material support run counter to positions endorsed in the U.S. courts, and that matters a lot. Well done.

Thu, 2010-09-30 16:51

#10

NDPP

'I'm Coming To Get You' George Galloway Tells Jason Kenney

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/im-coming-to-get-you-george...

"I'm coming to get you with my arguments, Mr Kenney,' Galloway said. 'I'm gong to establish either that you're a fool or that you're a knave - in any case, that the people of Canada deserve better than you..

At the time, Mr Kenney did say publicly, 'I believe folks that are supporting and promoting and helping terrorist organizations are not needed to visit Canada.'

Mr Galloway said the terrorist allegations had proven extremely damaging. Not only did they cost him his long-held seat in the British House of Commons in May, he said, they also put him in personal danger, hampered his ability to travel and placed him and his family under anxiety and stress.."

Fri, 2010-10-01 00:41

#11

al-Qa'bong

CTV should sponsor a George Galloway invasion of the House of Commons, and call it a "cage match" or something. Anyone who has heard Galloway speak would line up to hear him verbally demolish pipsqueaks like Jason Kenney or Stevie-boy Harper.

Bring it on!

Fri, 2010-10-01 07:02

#12

N.Beltov

Yea, I think Galloway still has his regular radio show. It would be interesting to listen to him take on some of the talk radio flyweights on this side of the Atlantic.

Hell, he could give seminars and help build a whole "left wing talk radio" movement. Ferocity 101.

Fri, 2010-10-01 07:46

#13

jtleroy

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1532509206579317476# Nuff said

Fri, 2010-10-01 09:03

#14

NDPP

So?

Fri, 2010-10-01 11:48

#15

jtleroy

So? Right that's normal...Ok

Fri, 2010-10-01 12:23

#16

Cueball

Probably more normal than you would like to believe. In anycase if the best you can do for supporting your assertion that the Canadian Government should have the right to ban Galloway from entering the country is because he appeared on tasteless British celebrity TV show where he was obliged to behave in a bizarre manner, I think I should remind you that Hitler's primary objection to modern art was that artists who paint "skies green and ground blue" should be banned, and that your objection is more or less along that line.

To wit: Is dressing up in a cat suit an behaving like a cat evidence of material support for terrorism?

Fri, 2010-10-01 16:07

#17

NDPP

Cueball wrote:

To wit: Is dressing up in a cat suit an behaving like a cat evidence of material support for terrorism?

NDPP

Precisely. Unlike our own white-cat no difference party, who continue to give 'material support for terrorism' by supporting Israeli apartheid, Galloway has brought aid and support to those victims of ongoing Zionist war crimes and oppression. And since you like Galloway vids, here he is being anything but a pussycat..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk

Fri, 2010-10-01 16:19

#18

jtleroy

Cueball wrote:

Probably more normal than you would like to believe. In anycase if the best you can do for supporting your assertion that the Canadian Government should have the right to ban Galloway from entering the country is because he appeared on tasteless British celebrity TV show where he was obliged to behave in a bizarre manner, I think I should remind you that Hitler's primary objection to modern art was that artists who paint "skies green and ground blue" should be banned, and that your objection is more or less along that line.

To wit: Is dressing up in a cat suit an behaving like a cat evidence of material support for terrorism?

I don't believe I said what you imply cueball. My thing with Galloway is that he is a friggin clown. I have no respect for this blowhard and do not see him as a person with much integrity. That said his being a silly twit should never have stopped him from entering Canada and all those who want to hear a man, who pretends he is a cat on public TV, can certainly do so. I will be picking my nose that evening.

Fri, 2010-10-01 16:39

#19

Cueball

I would have that that freedom of speech and banning popular political figures because of their views would be more engaging for an astute and intellectually engaged person such as yourself, as opposed to youtube clips of odd performances on silly TV programs. But then again, some people read books on political theory, others think that their time is better spent picking their nose while reading celebrity gossip columns and watching celebrity blooper clips on youtube.

It is all a matter of ones priorities I suppose.

Fri, 2010-10-01 17:25

#20

Uncle John

I think Galloway has the right to speak, and so long as he breaks no Canadian laws through said speech (such as incitement), he should be able to tour here and say whatever he wants. His right to free speech is more important in my mind than anything he might have to say.

Fri, 2010-10-01 18:10

#21

Cueball

Can't disagree with Uncle John. But some people are more enamoured with spending their waking ours finding celebrity blooper Youtube clips to consider such nuances of what democracy is all about.

Fri, 2010-10-01 18:28

#22

jtleroy

Cueball wrote:

I would have that that freedom of speech and banning popular political figures because of their views would be more engaging for an astute and intellectually engaged person such as yourself, as opposed to youtube clips of odd performances on silly TV programs. But then again, some people read books on political theory, others think that their time is better spent picking their nose while reading celebrity gossip columns and watching celebrity blooper clips on youtube.

It is all a matter of ones priorities I suppose.

Sorry cueball, the cat thing is something that just gives me the willies. Sorry but there is no coming back from that. Each to his own cueball. I will defend your right to enjoy catman Galloway. I promise.

Fri, 2010-10-01 19:06

#23

Cueball

In Turkey Youtube is banned because it is sometimes used to defame the "Great Turk". But most pimply faced Youtube fans don't often think about such things, so I was a little bit surprised when one showed up here, saw a thread on Galloway being banned by the federal government and actually decided to comment. What didn't surprise me was that the important thing that came to mind for him was not the infringement on the right to freedom of speech, which he said nothing about, but the wacky thing he saw about Galloway on Youtube.

Here is a guy who does a routine survey of wacky things you can see on the internet, maybe you will like him: Raywilliamjohnson.

Sat, 2010-10-02 10:23

#24

The Woolfman

I have seen the youtube clip of George Galloway and while I sympathize with the fact that Galloway should not be kept out of Canada, his antics are childish and boorish. He is a pompous ass who despite his perceived good works, does so in such a manner that at least i am turned off.

There is unquestionably a free speech issue here but jtleroy is also right when he points to Galloway as a total oddball whose ridiculous behaviour often does harm to the issues he tries to champion.

Sat, 2010-10-02 10:36

#25

VanGoghs Ear

No one could disagree with the comment that Galloway is an oddball rather some just dislike that this fact was brought up in this thread

Sat, 2010-10-02 11:16

#26

The Woolfman

They dislike it? Really you think that's the case? Why would they dislike it?

Sat, 2010-10-02 11:52

#27

MCsquared

George Galloway's behaviour is very disturbing and should be discussed here. I am not sure why Cueball would try to derail it. Surely the man's credibility has some importance. If he is seen as deranged who would pay attention to his message no matter how important or sincere?

Sat, 2010-10-02 11:57

#28

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

If Canada can let a war criminal like Dubya,a mentally ill trouble making pundit like Ann Coulter or the hopelessly moronic Sarah Palin cross our border,why can't we let in a member of the British Parliament?

Oh yeah,he sends a dissenting voice that can contradict the whole conservative cause.

Harpie's Heroes only likes opinions and speeches by the people they strive to emulate...War criminals,sociopaths,liars,racists,fascists and morons....And anything else Faux News worthy.

Sat, 2010-10-02 12:28

#29

Cueball

MCsquared wrote:

George Galloway's behaviour is very disturbing and should be discussed here. I am not sure why Cueball would try to derail it. Surely the man's credibility has some importance. If he is seen as deranged who would pay attention to his message no matter how important or sincere?

The guy appeared on a silly TV program where contestants were asked to do silly and embarrassing things. George did those embarrassing and silly things. The derailment here is trying to turn a discussion about freedom of speech and the government's right to persecute opinions that they do not like by interfering in the activities of immigration officials, whose activities are meant to be dealt with at arms length from the political views of the government, by discussing Mr. Galloway's appearance on a popular TV game show.

Georges appearance on this TV program, or what he did on that program, did not appear in the crowns brief on the defense of the government action. Indeed the court rule in favour of Mr. Galloway on all points, except one, which was a legal technicality based on the fact that Mr. Galloway, after being intimidated by letters from the immigration department, did not actually try and seek entry to Canada. Other than that, the judge entirely sided with Mr. Galloway.

The fact that some commenter here think that the most important thing to discuss in this case, is not government interference in the due process of the immigration department, but a ridiculous Youtube clip featuring Mr. Galloway, speaks not to the detriment of Mr. Galloway, but to the detriment of the critical capacity of those who think that a short appearance on a TV game show is worthy of discussion.

We are supposed to take seriously the opinions of those who are less interested in the interference of the work of immigration officials and due process by the government, than they are in a discussion about celebrity gossip, and you would not have me come to the conclusion that such a set of priorities is an indication of derangement far beyond anything Mr. Galloway did on that TV program.

Sat, 2010-10-02 12:32

#30

Merowe

The Woolfman wrote:

I have seen the youtube clip of George Galloway and while I sympathize with the fact that Galloway should not be kept out of Canada, his antics are childish and boorish. He is a pompous ass who despite his perceived good works, does so in such a manner that at least i am turned off.

There is unquestionably a free speech issue here but jtleroy is also right when he points to Galloway as a total oddball whose ridiculous behaviour often does harm to the issues he tries to champion.

'THE youtube clip'? Youtube lists 'about 5,650 videos for Mr.Galloway, of which I'll guess some 99% document his decades-long involvement with progressive forces in the Middle East as well as in his own country.

But you want to talk about a cat.

'Perceived good works'? Like that Viva Palestina convoy, that splashed Israel's crimes all over the international press and brought substantial material aid to the imprisoned Palestinians of Gaza? Those kind of 'perceived' good works?

Perhaps you will be more comfortable in the 'jokes' threads, in babble banter?

Sat, 2010-10-02 13:29

#31

jtleroy

There are some people here who seem very touchy about anyone who brings uop Galloway's credibility problem. And no wonder he has a GIANT credibility problem.

I also take umbrage with those who put words in my mouth. Where did I ever say that Catman Galloway's silly antics takes presedence over the free speech issue? I brought up his credibility as part of the honest discussion going on here.

So keep plugging away at my credibility Cueball. Fine by me, since I never went on any publicly broadcasted television show and purred, licked and meowed like a cat for millions to see.

Sat, 2010-10-02 13:40

#32

Cueball

You take umbrage at that? Hard to figure out why persons might not be aware of your professed position on freedom of speech when your introductory comment was not a comment but a link to a Youtube clip without comment. Indeed the only time you brought up free speech was when some people called you on your priorities.

In the light of that the fact that you later professed an interest in freedom speech seem pro forma, as opposed to heartfelt. Indeed, in my view "democrats" would be outraged by the freedom of speech issue to such and extent that Mr. Galloway's antics would seem irrelevant, and hardly worth considering in the greater scheme of things.

For someone who has taken an interest in pursuing very minute details of the activities of Mr. Galloway, you would think that you would apply similar precision in your own commentary and perhaps mention your support for the right to freedom of speech, in a thread about freedom of speech, without being pressed to do so.

Sat, 2010-10-02 14:19

#33

jtleroy

Presed to do so? Don't think so. And cannot help but observe how obseesed you are with the fact that I brought up Galloway's dalliances as a kitty cat. Had you not continued to challenge my right to do so I suspect it would have ended there. But you seem to have this irritating thing where you have to have the last word. So please go ahead but understand I brought up Galloway's credibility problem. It was a legitimate part of the debate no matter how hard you may wish to diminish it.

Sat, 2010-10-02 14:37

#34

Cueball

I didn't bring up the cat video. Indeed we have had plenty of discussion about the cat video. I actually watched the whole show! This happened several years ago. Get up to speed. The world of Youtube oddities is a wonderful place. All kinds of fun, and sometimes gruesome things there.

This thread however is about the repression of freedom of speech, not Celebrity Big Brother. If you are really interested in rehashing the Celebrity Big Brother show, you might want to start a thread about it, since you seem interested. However, for me, that is done to death.

You seem to be trying to assert that the right to freedom of speech is somehow predicated upon your personal opinion of someones credibility? Perhaps you are suggesting that people who can be shown to appear on freak shows have less right to freedom of speech? Are you saying that dressing up in a cat suit on TV is somehow related to the government decision ot ban Galloway?

Is that it? What is your position, exactly. It is very hard to tell.

Sat, 2010-10-02 14:38

#35

clandestiny

harper hates liberals. why? liberals are, by design, inoffensive almost to a point where a lefty such as i want a baseball bat-

not for them but for the frenetic boors who always argueing for harper (see jon oakley/ryan doyle/mike coren/mike stafford/

charles adler, dave agar, jimmy richards etc) ...just the fact George Galloway is one of OURS should pre-empt time spent criticising him on Babble when

...turn on ANY talkradio in GTA and get a earful of 'he's a commie who loves muslim terrorists and a moral danger to our children' etc

Sat, 2010-10-02 16:31

#36

N.Beltov

I'm looking forward to George's broadcast. Let Conservatives, bigots, rascists, and other misanthropes tremble. It's like werewolves hearing about silver bullets and wooden stakes. BLAM! Ya gotta love it.

Maybe the opposition parties could get together and invite Galloway to speak to Parliament on the subject of freedom of speech. It really seems that the current bunch of Conservative neaderthals need a lesson. Badly.

Kick. their. asses. George.

Sat, 2010-10-02 17:36

#37

jtleroy

Cueball wrote:

I didn't bring up the cat video. Indeed we have had plenty of discussion about the cat video. I actually watched the whole show! This happened several years ago. Get up to speed. The world of Youtube oddities is a wonderful place. All kinds of fun, and sometimes gruesome things there.

This thread however is about the repression of freedom of speech, not Celebrity Big Brother. If you are really interested in rehashing the Celebrity Big Brother show, you might want to start a thread about it, since you seem interested. However, for me, that is done to death.

You seem to be trying to assert that the right to freedom of speech is somehow predicated upon your personal opinion of someones credibility? Perhaps you are suggesting that people who can be shown to appear on freak shows have less right to freedom of speech? Are you saying that dressing up in a cat suit on TV is somehow related to the government decision ot ban Galloway?

Is that it? What is your position, exactly. It is very hard to tell.

The thread is ostensibly about Galloway and the Court decision. That leaves a wide berth as is evidenced by the discussion here.

Look I understand how embarassing it is for Galloway's disciples to have to deal with this issue but as I try to impress upon you credibility means much.

Now despite your most sincere attempts to lump me in with those who want to stop GG at the border, that was never my position. Even silly people who lack any credibility have the right to free speech.

Sat, 2010-10-02 18:29

#38

Stargazer

Apparently - you're here posting.

Sat, 2010-10-02 18:33

#39

al-Qa'bong

Quote:
Where did I ever say that Catman Galloway's silly antics takes presedence over the free speech issue?

At the risk of being accused of making a spelling flame, I believe that's spelled "George" Galloway.

...

A few weeks ago I took over the time slot of another show's host. I played an Alternative Radio program byGeorge Galloway. I find his honest speaking style refreshing. Smilin' Jack should take lessons.

Sat, 2010-10-02 18:49

#40

Cueball

jtleroy wrote:

Cueball wrote:

I didn't bring up the cat video. Indeed we have had plenty of discussion about the cat video. I actually watched the whole show! This happened several years ago. Get up to speed. The world of Youtube oddities is a wonderful place. All kinds of fun, and sometimes gruesome things there.

This thread however is about the repression of freedom of speech, not Celebrity Big Brother. If you are really interested in rehashing the Celebrity Big Brother show, you might want to start a thread about it, since you seem interested. However, for me, that is done to death.

You seem to be trying to assert that the right to freedom of speech is somehow predicated upon your personal opinion of someones credibility? Perhaps you are suggesting that people who can be shown to appear on freak shows have less right to freedom of speech? Are you saying that dressing up in a cat suit on TV is somehow related to the government decision ot ban Galloway?

Is that it? What is your position, exactly. It is very hard to tell.

The thread is ostensibly about Galloway and the Court decision. That leaves a wide berth as is evidenced by the discussion here.

Look I understand how embarassing it is for Galloway's disciples to have to deal with this issue but as I try to impress upon you credibility means much.

Now despite your most sincere attempts to lump me in with those who want to stop GG at the border, that was never my position. Even silly people who lack any credibility have the right to free speech.

So the entire extent of your critique of Mr. Galloway is based on a 90 second clip of him dressed in costume and play acting?

How very "deep".

What about this:

Is Stephen Harper actually a cowboy? I thought he was a kid from Etobicoke?

Sat, 2010-10-02 19:16

#41

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Mosley said he agreed with Galloway's Canadian supporters that the main reason why border agency officials said he would be barred entry was that "they disagreed with his political views.”

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/10/02/galloway-canada.html

Yay! Jason Kenney and con gang thwarted.

Sat, 2010-10-02 19:20

#42

Cueball

Yes... yes... but what was he wearing when he entered Canada?

Sat, 2010-10-02 22:02

#43

gadar

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Sat, 2010-10-02 23:22

#44

jtleroy

Cueball wrote:

jtleroy wrote:

Cueball wrote:

I didn't bring up the cat video. Indeed we have had plenty of discussion about the cat video. I actually watched the whole show! This happened several years ago. Get up to speed. The world of Youtube oddities is a wonderful place. All kinds of fun, and sometimes gruesome things there.

This thread however is about the repression of freedom of speech, not Celebrity Big Brother. If you are really interested in rehashing the Celebrity Big Brother show, you might want to start a thread about it, since you seem interested. However, for me, that is done to death.

You seem to be trying to assert that the right to freedom of speech is somehow predicated upon your personal opinion of someones credibility? Perhaps you are suggesting that people who can be shown to appear on freak shows have less right to freedom of speech? Are you saying that dressing up in a cat suit on TV is somehow related to the government decision ot ban Galloway?

Is that it? What is your position, exactly. It is very hard to tell.

The thread is ostensibly about Galloway and the Court decision. That leaves a wide berth as is evidenced by the discussion here.

Look I understand how embarassing it is for Galloway's disciples to have to deal with this issue but as I try to impress upon you credibility means much.

Now despite your most sincere attempts to lump me in with those who want to stop GG at the border, that was never my position. Even silly people who lack any credibility have the right to free speech.

So the entire extent of your critique of Mr. Galloway is based on a 90 second clip of him dressed in costume and play acting?

How very "deep".

What about this:

Is Stephen Harper actually a cowboy? I thought he was a kid from Etobicoke?

I just love the way you make up what I feel and say. What an over-active and mischivious imagination you have. And as for the above picture as obscene as it is , at least he is not in a cat costume licking some poor woman's arm.

Sat, 2010-10-02 23:51

#45

Cueball

The "poor" woman is one of the co-contestants on the game show. Do you actually know anything about the history of that clip or how it came into existance? Is your personal disgust at the activity you see there the sum total of your views on Galloway's position on Israel?

You object to me putting words in your mouth. If you chose to actually say what you mean, or intend to imply, or explain how the above clip relates to the substance of anything that Galloway has said, or believes there might be less need to try and fathom what it is you are trying to say. It seems you have a problem with cat suits and arm licking. Anything else?

Sun, 2010-10-03 05:41

#46

NDPP

George Galloway Comes out Swinging After Arriving in Canada

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/george-galloway-comes-out-s...

"A defiant George Galloway says he may take another run at legal action against Immigration Minister Jason Kenney for branding him a terrorist and trying to muzzle his anti-war views.."

Sun, 2010-10-03 07:29

#47

Maysie

Well this has all been entertaining, but I need to step in with my mod hat on.

jtleroy, you think Galloway's appearance in the YouTube clip was embarrassing / undignified / etc, and that it makes him unfit for any serious political consideration. You've made that point abundantly clear.

Cueball and others disagree.

Since this thread is about Galloway's visit to Canada (he's speaking in Toronto this afternoon) I need to request that this back-and-forth about his "lack of credibility" be dialed back. It's getting tiresome, it's off topic and we did have this discussion on babble months ago when Galloway was denied entry.

Enough. Back on topic please.

Sun, 2010-10-03 08:43

#48

jtleroy

Cueball wrote:

The "poor" woman is one of the co-contestants on the game show. Do you actually know anything about the history of that clip or how it came into existance? Is your personal disgust at the activity you see there the sum total of your views on Galloway's position on Israel?

You object to me putting words in your mouth. If you chose to actually say what you mean, or intend to imply, or explain how the above clip relates to the substance of anything that Galloway has said, or believes there might be less need to try and fathom what it is you are trying to say. It seems you have a problem with cat suits and arm licking. Anything else?

Actually its not me with a problem; its Galloway. I will be damned if I can figure out why you feel this need to defend his appearance on this program. It is what it is and folks will take away their own conclusions.

Sun, 2010-10-03 10:08

#49

Stargazer

Haven't you been told yet? I think so. If you have nothing else to say then your ridicules BS don't post anymore in this thread.

Sun, 2010-10-03 10:57

#50

sanizadeh

That video might be silly or embarrassing, but Galloway's presence on the Iranian government's Press TV, where he has a regular show (called "real deal") to cheer the oppressive practices of a fascistic regime is nothing short of criminal. How does Galloway sleep at night knowing that he receives a paycheck from a murderous dictatorship that has sent hundreds of journalists and students alone to jail over the past year, often for no crime other than reporting on human right abuses? But looking back at Galloway's record with uday Hussein and all, I guess he never found a paying dictator he didn't like!

Galloway and Iranian election and democracy (on the Iranian government's Presstv):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgdTcKdt1rg

Iranian students protest Galloway at House of Common

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G145NbP5pP4

Details: http://azarmehr.blogspot.com/2010/03/galloway-begged-police-to-detain-us...

Sun, 2010-10-03 11:20

#51

Cueball

jtleroy wrote:

Cueball wrote:

The "poor" woman is one of the co-contestants on the game show. Do you actually know anything about the history of that clip or how it came into existance? Is your personal disgust at the activity you see there the sum total of your views on Galloway's position on Israel?

You object to me putting words in your mouth. If you chose to actually say what you mean, or intend to imply, or explain how the above clip relates to the substance of anything that Galloway has said, or believes there might be less need to try and fathom what it is you are trying to say. It seems you have a problem with cat suits and arm licking. Anything else?

Actually its not me with a problem; its Galloway. I will be damned if I can figure out why you feel this need to defend his appearance on this program. It is what it is and folks will take away their own conclusions.

I am not defending Galloway here, I am attacking you for being a prig. I thought it was silly and stupid. People can be silly and stupid personally, and that has nothing to do with wether or not their position on Israel's is right or wrong. They can even make mistakes! Gosh! Of course the show creators were going to do everything in their power to put Galloway in the most compromising position possible, in order to discredit him. Indeed, I watched that whole program, and what I found most disturbing about Galloway was that basically on a personal level I found him to be a great big bore who has trouble relating to people outside of the niche of a socialist political moral framework.

I found him tedious.

Have you ever cracked a joke that no one else thought was funny? Ever cracka joke at all?

Actually, come to think of it, I rather think the spectacle of a 50 something member of parliament being game enough to take on the challenge of appearing like a total jack-ass on television to be a bit of a scream, and an excelent commentary on the pretentious and uptight institution of the British parliament.

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