My recent suspension for using a brand new racial slur

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Wed, 2010-12-01 08:58

Fidel

Hi there Maysie and mods,

No I'm afraid I do not understand how "muj" equates to anything close to "bitch" or as Cueball says, is an equivalent to "gook" or even "dink", as if to make things even worse.

FYI, "gook and dink" are not legitimate root words of any known ethnicity or even the racist terminology surrounding "race" in general. And the word bitch has nothing to do with "muj", which is short for mujahideen or mujahid.

And I was extremely offended with seeing those words Cueball posted(gook and dink) in that thread and tarring me as if I had used them by some bizarre association he conjured up in his own chaotic and juvenile mind. And you totally ignored that in order to focus on "muj"? Are you serious? Those inflammatory and racist slurs should have been an insult to any person of Asian ethnicity reading babble whereas muj has been used before in other threads without incidence.

And then I was suspended practically instantaneously without much of a warning at all. I had no time to read your warning and there I was suspended for 24 hours.

FYI. Iraqis refer to al-Zawraa's Syrian TV broadcasts as "Muj TV."

Harvard lecturer Jessica Stern refers to the Muijahideen in short form in her essay entitled, Meeting with the "Muj"

I have not seen anything in Wiki's lists of known ethnic slurs mentioning muj. They do list gook and dink but not muj or even mooj.

How many more abbreviated terms can babblers expect to be equated with vile racial slurs and suspensions issued on the fly and on a minute's notice?

Wed, 2010-12-01 09:02

Caissa

Welcome back, Fidel.

Wed, 2010-12-01 09:08

Cueball

Fidel wrote:

Hi there Maysie and mods,

No I'm afraid I do not understand how "muj" equates to anything close to "bitch" or as Cueball says, is an equivalent to "gook" or even "dink", as if to make things even worse.

FYI, "gook and dink" are not legitimate root words of any known ethnicity or even the racist terminology surrounding "race" in general. And the word bitch has nothing to do with "muj", which is short for mujahideen or mujahid.

And I was extremely offended with seeing those words Cueball posted(gook and dink) in that thread and tarring me as if I had used them by some bizarre association he conjured up in his own chaotic and juvenile mind. And you totally ignored that in order to focus on "muj"? Are you serious? Those inflammatory and racist slurs should have been an insult to any person of Asian ethnicity reading babble whereas muj has been used before in other threads without incidence.

And then I was suspended practically instantaneously without much of a warning at all. I had no time to read your warning and there I was suspended for 24 hours.

FYI. Iraqis refer to al-Zawraa's Syrian TV broadcasts as "Muj TV."

Harvard lecturer Jessica Stern refers to the Muijahideen in short form in her essay entitled, Meeting with the "Muj"

I have not seen anything in Wiki's lists of known ethnic slurs mentioning muj. They do list gook and dink but not muj or even mooj.

How many more abbreviated terms can babblers expect to be equated with vile racial slurs and suspensions issued on the fly and on a minute's notice?

And "Jap" was common in the New York Times during the second world war. What of it? It's a pejorative derogratory term used to dehumanize.

Wed, 2010-12-01 09:12

Fidel

Well I was all set to accept the explanation as a new rule and why I shouldn't use it, which is that I will be banned for doing so. But then I thought, hey wait a minute? It's used all over the internet and by scholars and people in Middle Eastern countries themselves!

Wed, 2010-12-01 09:20

Fidel

Cueball wrote:
And "Jap" was common in the New York Times during the second world war. What of it? It's a pejorative derogratory term used to dehumanize.

Japanese are a generalized ethnic group whereas mujahideen can refer to many different ethnics in various countries and does not refer to any one nation of people. There is a difference. It means holy warrior, and not all Muslims are mujahideen. It would be very [s]racist[/s] bigoted of you to insinuate that as you have done apparently.

Show me where "muj" is listed as a known racial slur.

Wed, 2010-12-01 09:22

Caissa

Googling the three letters in question provides a plethora of interesting hits.

ETA: Googling "muj" and "pejorative" brings Babble to the top of the list.

Wed, 2010-12-01 09:32

Fidel

Googling "Gucci Muj" conjures up some rather unflattering photos of CIA officials standing next to the well known right wing extremists they propped-up with billions of dollars in aid and weapons in the 1980s, and again in the 2000s with mujahideen and even a few"ex-Talban" in Hamid Karzai's regime through today.

Wed, 2010-12-01 09:43

Maysie

Fidel.

First of all this doesn't belong in the anti-racism forum. If I were to keep this open I would move it to rabble reactions.

Second, my example to you, sent by email which I framed as an EXAMPLE, was that, FOR EXAMPLE, calling Sarah Palin a bitch is not allowed on babble. If anyone were to do so I would tell them to stop. And yeah, give them a suspension if they refused.

My telling someone to stop calling Sarah Palin a bitch would not mean in any way that I like or support Sarah Palin in any manner whatsoever. The names you hurled at me in our delightful email exchange were evidence, to me, that you can't tell the difference between being told to not use an offensive term, and support of the person/group to whom that invective is directed.

Third, closing.

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